jason len

any hints on performance tuning boost on my j reg xr3i 16v 1800i zetec?

seems very sluggish and slow???

i have a k&n induction kit fitted.

Paddy

exhaust and chip should be next

sort the suspension and brakes and you'll keep up with the saxo's in the twisties

Next stage lightening and balancing bottom end, machined head and high lift cam.

If thats not enough, then 2.0 litre conversion with big turbo on it

Post some pics mate

jason len

well i heard you can use 1.8 zetec bottom end and fit a rs turbo head without changing to low compresion pistons? not sure if this is right?

also is this the cheapest way to do it? without changing the complete engine?

i really want a turbo, like the dump valve sound, any way to make it work without actully modding the engine? even just for the sound? i know it sounds stupied but thought id ask being very new to this.

eniacs

I have the perfect solution to this:

Drive along as normal, but with the window open.

When you change down or up a gear, lean your head out the window and make a loud tsshshs sound. If you have friends in the car ask them to do the same.

Steve.

jason len

please dont reply with silly answers eniacs,

i generally wanted advice being new to tuning scene.

RSeb

do not change anything engine wise 16valves are far betta, go for the filter and exaust, cams etc you could also try using a 2 litre throttle body and ecu

jason len

thanks rsseb any advice on hooking a turbo up? on this engine or is it a big job?

eniacs

Jason;

Anything that is cool ie turbos, superchargers etc is very expensive, and hence complicated to set up. I have looked into it as i used to want the turbo sound, but the very cheapest to get someone else to do it, is around Ł2k+ for a turbo. To do it yourself may still run into the Ł1k+

Its cool because not many people have it. Not many people have it because its so expensive.

Stick with what you have or buy a supra!!

RSeb

stcik wiv wot you have or get a turbocharged car, is far cheaper in the long run

jason len

well i read the specs on a website,

stock rs turbo 132bhp,

my car 130bhp,

i have been in a rs turbo and they are very fast, head goes back into seat on acceleration,

now just curious, concidering both cars have similar bhp, then mine should be just as quick shouldent it? similar acceleration ect?

or maybe my engine is just worn? or needs cleaning? but the rs turbo i went in is even older than mine so??? yet my accelratrion is nothink like the rs i went in?

RSeb

the rs was prob modded very few are still standard and you will always get a kick when the turbo hits full boost, see they suffer from lag which is the time it takes for the turbo to spin up to its max output ie boost pressure

Paddy

Stick with what seb says mate, if you want a turbo car, go and buy one already done, cos you'll spend a fortune getting it done to yours and it won't be worth a great deal more, often less

jason len

ok thanks,

so im guessing chnage to a kent cam? you say i could could also try using a 2 litre throttle body and ecu,

what sort of increases am i looking??

also are these superchips worth shelling out for?

Paddy

If you're changing throttle bodies and cams, I wouldn't bother with a super chip.

You;re better off going and getting a custom map session done

Where abouts do you live?

jason len

birmingham mate,

my local scrpyard has a ford 170bhp Duratec engine, he said it woulf fit into a mk5? he also said you could fit a turbo?

is this engine good? fast? and would it be worth me looking into this?

RSeb

yeah you could physically do all that but would it work and for how long, honestly dont bother, personally i wouldnt take the advice of a scrappy

Paddy

If you live in birmingham, then theres only ONE person to consult about your car and to do the work for you and don't trust a scrappy

Karl Norris changed my life he made my shonky S2 go like stink for peanuts, he rEALLY knows his stuff and its worth booking a session with him just so you can see his 750bhp+ 3 door in the flesh

www.norrismotorsport.co.uk

He's a genius with head work too

RSeb

Padds have you decided what ur doin with your engine i have a plan you might be interested in

jason len

thanks paddy,



as his contact number is not a birmingham number? also how much did he charge you to sort your s2? as you said hes quite cheap.

im still undecided what to do with my 1800i engine really, however was checking out prices for high lift cam and they are about 3-400 pounds alone, then theres rest etc,

the car already has a k&n induction kit and a custom exaust,

jason len

ok was at my local meet last night,

a guy has a 2.0L Zetec 16v engine for sale, just want to know your opinions really,

2.0L Zetec engine that had a Turbo. he said all of the work has been done on the engine.
he said he had a T3 mounted to an Turbo manifold, with Ofab ECU,

i did ask him did he chnage pistons to low compression concidering he said hes had the work done to run a turbo on this engine and he said , he used stanadrd pistons, with decompresion plate approx 7.5:1 compression ratio, with a 5th injector and it all worked ok.

anyone comment? sound good? or would it be worth buying it and fittng it into my xr3i and upgrading to the turbo later? as i think he used that for his new car.

Paddy

There'd be work to do to that engine to be able to run it without a turbo. E.g blanking off the oil return and finding a management set-up

If you buy it, expect a complete rebuild soon

My honest advice, is if you want a turbo'd car, sell the 3i and go and buy one thats been done already.

it'll work out a lot cheaper

Karl charged about Ł300 [can't remember exactly] that included a thorough engine check, 3 way bleed valve bypassing the amal valve, -34 actuator and a live mapping session

jason len

check ur pm paddy

the saint

iTrader: (1)

Hello mate are you sure its a 130ps model as my 130 xr3i used to shift

they should do 130mph (clock reading)if not she aint no 130 trust me

there was a company when i had mine that used to tune alot of zetec motors and i think they where called dunnels or something like that, if i hadnt have px`d mine on a cossie it would have been going there for some treatment

jason len

hi the saint,

well it seems very slow, acceleration seems slow to me really,

top end is ok, as took it on motorway and was doing 90 fine 3 quarters of pedal down.,

its just the acceleration seems sluggish?

and yes its the 130bhp model mate.

also http://www.dunnell.co.uk/ is down, anyone know where they are located and if they are expensive?

the saint

iTrader: (1)

Hi jas i dont know what to say to be honest but turbo cars always feel quicker cos of the way they work, dont mean to be funny but maybe your expecting to much from the car if your used to fast car ect............

i cant remember what dunnells prices where like as that was three years ago.....

Turbo Pez

Mate had a 130ps lump in his 5 door escort which the cambelt broke on itm, so instead of rebuilding the head we put a 2.0i mondeo lump in it, easy to fit strip everything of the 1.8 motor, inlet manifold, water pump, etc!! and put it on the 2.0 lump! it run on the standard 130ps ecu and it did feel a little quicker than the 1.8!

Neway he now got the ecu chiped, meaty cams, gasflowed head, 4-2-1 manifold, exhaust, air filter and a power boost valve! It flys now alday long without blowing up!! unlike a turbo

Chris69

i've got a mk61.8si and it basically running 130spec at the mo cams etc and its ok- alot quicker than it was before but still lacking in midrange torque.
I've been told the best way to tune the 1.8 is a different manifold, pbv, unichip and possiblt de-cat.
should be seeing at least 140bhp with little lot and car thats alot more driveable i'm in the process sourcing said parts at the mo
failing that as already said wack 2litre in there 130bhp outta the box with better gains from mods.

lunatixantix

I have a mk5 xr3i 105ps model, was pretty nippy, but with a full induction kit and ecu remapping it made a noticeable difference. After that I had a reconditioned gearbox (when I bust mine street racing) and had the gears cut so the ratios were further apart. I got to 34mph in 1st gear, 87mph in 2nd and 110mph in 3rd.. I only ever tended to use 1st 2nd and 5th gear seeing as I left most cars to eat dust at the lights! Of course, not as quick as a turbo but it was nippy. I would echo the others advice though, if your heart's set on a turbo charged car, buy it ready done unless you wanna see money go down the drain