ajamesc

Found this on line last night the bits that have gone into this engine are un real lol must be some serious money spent!

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...bo-Engineering

gjh

Christ alive! Still wondering how they got a naturally aspirated YB to do over 400bhp mind, although saying that, weren't the old naturally aspirated 3 litre V10 F1 engines producing close to 900bhp? So maybe its doable.

Mark Shead

Google them and read the posts on the mlr and Evo m about them.

Mark

ajamesc

it says in the thread above about an evo they have built is it quick I take it. I like the con rods they talk about at the end of the above tread. No bearing and 120 hours only use lol. Also says that billet block has no head gasket. I know old Rolls Royce engines had no head gasket

Rod-Tarry

Andy do as Mark says its out on the web. They claim to build Mercedes F1 engines amongst other false claims they were rumbled some time ago.

XRT_si

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I'm never quite sure how to take this company. At one point, they sounded amazing with their billet parts and high-revving engines. Then the MLR eventually tore them to pieces and their reputation dissolved.

Yet they still seem to be producing cars and parts of notable quality. Not sure I believe the specs of their Evo (17:1 compression, 12,000rpm and 1890hp?!) but it's certainly nippy and runs 8s in the quarter!

ajamesc

I've not Googled there rep lol just see that thread on the sight linked above. But you have to say on the face of it there looks to be some serious bits gone into that escort and it runs some fast times

Rod-Tarry

Andy don't always believe what you read.

SiZT

That billet block is from Australia for a start, they're well known to exaggerate the truth and most of what they claim is their own work is done by others. I also like the rod/ratio claim whilst showing a rod that is shorter c-to-c than the stock rod next to it

scoooby slayer

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Either way that evo is Seriously quick, it's packing some serious power and would I'm sure make my gtr and rods saph look slow !

ajamesc

I see that evo on Facebook I didn't know that was there's. I don't know the in's and out's of there work. Even if do twist the truth a bit lol and don't engineer the parts they use there motors do look to go well. This escort don't hang about iver lol

james kiely

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thats just comically fast lol

lee2cossies

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They have been exaggerating power figures for years but they do some quality work by the looks and build some seriously quick cars.

costina

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Rolls didnt need head gaskets due to the cylinders and head are one unit and 16 valves too. Head/cylinders are fitted over the pistons and then bolted to the crankcase. But remember it was all about capacity and torque at low rpm.

ajamesc

There's a Rolls Royce engine I beleave an aero engine that has no head gasket just exact machined surfaces and a sealer used

costina

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very impressive i was just going on stuff we have at work.

ajamesc

Don't think it's done any more I think deutz Diesel engines did it as well

costina

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Trouble is being able to keep the high compression in we all need to produce power. Always thought why has nobody tried liners that protrude into the head and seal the combustion chamber like that?

stevieturbo

They seem to post plenty of photos, and talk a lot. But very few real world results ?

And this obsession with crazy rpm's ?

I enquired with them about getting a compressor wheel made for my supercharger about 2-3 years ago. They responded to the first couple of emails, but when I asked for price and lead time, and where to send my unit to for them to work with...all emails stopped.

I know of another guy who wanted to use one of their turbos, but he was unable to purchase too.

So yes they are great at posting photos...but actually getting product out the door, or cars on the road/track ? they seem very few.

Either way, it does make good viewing whether its BS or not.

lacey

Same the hart 415t
That was mono block 1500cc turbo ,Twin spark and 16 injectors
My mate used to do r&d for harts and was Telling me how much of
a pig the mono block engines where To port

CossieRich

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The acceleration on that Evo is insane.

smiley

Can see a little closer in this clip looks nutz

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QgGyntrhs9I

smiley

Shit link its the 1000 bhp saph being dyno.d close up of monitor has the plot been faked on this aswell? Lol

SiZT

Looks more believable than the Evo one, mostly because it's not (supposedly) idling at 4k.

He must have good eyesight (better than mine ate least) using a notebook though

Rod-Tarry

The Cossie has not been mentioned as far as I know. 1000bhp is totally
achievable from the YB it only gets hard when you want Power below 6k & don't want to rev it to 9k in a road engine. Too many peeps think only of the headline Power figure when that's not what a good engine is about.
It was the 1890bhp EVO that started the debate on this company.

ajamesc

They seem to be well kitted out in this vid but I guess your never really know. The escort dose seem to 1/4 mile very quickly

JonnyBravo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8dWW9KxqlQ#t=11

smiley

understood mate just got the wrong impression from the posts about making figures up look forward to your 1000 bhp dyno vid

CrOwSoN15

The video of the Evo is clearly sped up

Fullflush

Escort runs an 8.3 1/4 on another vid

wayne thomas

"2006 - N/A ford cosworth 4cylinder 16v engine 119cui: 416hp -11,900rpms"

I stopped reading at that ^^^

Rod-Tarry

Whats the terminal speed that tells you the Power. Any decent stripped out drag car geared for the quarter will run in the 8's.

cossie rs500

the blue escort is from diferent tuner ,,,,,,,,is in cover of fast ford in past,,,,,they have some serius power terminal speed 286km with some traction problems,,,,

Rod-Tarry

That's a 177mph terminal so it has the Power it claims don't think that's in dispute.

lee2cossies

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This escort is from tsakitas performance a different tuners, they seem to be more realistic with their power claims and as stated above have run 8.3@ 177mph on their first outing so it's no 500hp engine. The extreme tuners escort run a best of 9.5 over the quarter.

ajamesc

Quick with that terminal then. They need a different colour scheme lol looks the same car. I just googled the name and that car piped up

cossie rs500

it,s not tsakitas,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,tsakanikas performance

lee2cossies

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Whatever it is I wasn't far off!

stevieturbo

That's like saying any decent Sierra will run 210mph.

Getting into the 8's is quite a lot harder than you think.