Ford Focus RS This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Focus RS Range.

Hello and quick timing belt queries

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 27-08-2010, 02:07 PM
  #1  
Andy_Viking
Virgin
Thread Starter
 
Andy_Viking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Hello and quick timing belt queries

Hello!

New to Fords but my wife now has an 02 1.6 zetec Focus which I must say I am really pleased with. I guess I will be hanging around here asking loads of novice questions for the coming months! I am very experienced mechanically so it is just the subtleties of the Ford which will catch me out. Which leads me on to..........

I am replacing the timing belt this weekend. Happy with, and understand the procedure. I have all the parts and the tools. Also have a couple of questions:-

1. The timing tool kit I have has two different length pins for what appears to be the crank location tool, one considerably longer than the other. I suppose it will become obvious but is it the long or the short which I will need.

2. When it comes to torquing the cam sprockets, are there any flats on the cams to hold them or do you really need the special tool which sits in the sprocket to counter the torque you are applying?

I have the belt, tensioner, idler, cam gasket, crank bolt, locking tool for flywheel, locating tools for crank and cams. Anything obvious I have missed?

I will also service the engine at the same time, anything unusual or is it all regular stuff?

Thanks in anticipation!!

Andy.
Old 27-08-2010, 02:18 PM
  #2  
saph4be
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
saph4be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: mansfield
Posts: 3,622
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

you will see which pin to use when the time comes and i pretty sure the cams have a place to hold them with a spanner when undoing the sprockets
Old 27-08-2010, 08:13 PM
  #3  
mercury grey minter
PassionFord Post Troll
 
mercury grey minter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SOLIHULL (BIRMINGHAM)
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

You use the shorter pin for the 1.4 and 1.6.The longer pin is for the 1.8 and 2.0.You also have a bar to lock the cams.You will also need a new crankshaft bolt.The crank is tricky as it,s free floating and dificult to time.Done mine last year.Get a HAYNES and it,s easy.
Old 27-08-2010, 09:38 PM
  #4  
phil_focus
PassionFord Post Troll
 
phil_focus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Under the car :cry:
Posts: 3,094
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

for the love of god do NOT remove the cam pulleys!!!

1. theres no need to, the timing of the cams is kept by the locking bar in the back of the cams.

2. its a cheap desgn where there are no flats or woodruff keys the cams and pulleys are just tapered and if not torqued up properly they will spin fucking your valves and needing a replacement engine. best to just leave them, when these engines were first built if they spin during testing the engine is just binned at the factory!

one thing you may find when locking the crank (i did on my 2l) is that you can still turn the crank one way so make sure its turned back to the pin (acts as a stop when you turn the crank back). its not difficult just something i noiced and to be aware of.

one last thing you may or may not know. dont use the crank locking pin and cam locking bar to lock the engine to undo the crank pulley bolt, it wont work and you may damage something. i've always had an assistant (mum, dad or brother) to stick the car in gear and stand bum off seat on the brakes while i attack the bolt with my breaker bar....its quite tight

Ps. get a cam bet kit with the pulleys and do the water pump while your there!
Old 28-08-2010, 12:36 PM
  #5  
Andy_Viking
Virgin
Thread Starter
 
Andy_Viking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for comments so far.....

1st problem, there is a sensor in the middle of the cam cover, can't get fingers in to disconnect it and don't want to pull on the wires.......

Whats the trick please?

Thanks,
Andy
Old 28-08-2010, 03:31 PM
  #6  
martysmartie
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
martysmartie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,460
Received 102 Likes on 100 Posts
Default

That will be the CTS (NTC) it has a connector like the HT lead which pulls off the sensor itself.

Martin
Old 28-08-2010, 04:03 PM
  #7  
tabetha
BANNED
BANNED
 
tabetha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: uk
Posts: 24,596
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

The correct way to do it is with a bar or 8mm rod across the slots in rear of cams, loosen the cam sprockets, just enough so they rotate, I've never used a new one and never had a problem with the crank bolt, or the cam bolts, just retorque to correct amount it will be fine.
Be aware, though not sure on your year there are two different r/c gaskets so might pay to buy both from ford and take back the wrong one for refund, last one I did was a T reg 2.0 ghia, and despite the reg etc ford supplied the wrong one.
Note carefully, maybe even take a piccie of the aux belt run around ps pump, crank etc, can save time.
tabetha

Trending Topics

Old 31-08-2010, 06:17 PM
  #8  
Andy_Viking
Virgin
Thread Starter
 
Andy_Viking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

All done without any drama! You have to be very careful when you put the crank pin in, i.e. only put it in when it is almost at TDC otherwise it stops the crank in the wrong position. I can see why people struggle with the crank pulley bolt but I reckon its 40% knowledge, 40% Tools and 20% Luck. Actually had far more trouble getting it tight enough, only managed 75 deg of the final 90 deg turn and broke my snap on 18mm socket!

Serviced it while I was at it..... the top quick release clip on the fuel filter is fun isnt it.........

Thanks for the help.
Old 31-08-2010, 06:33 PM
  #9  
phil_focus
PassionFord Post Troll
 
phil_focus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Under the car :cry:
Posts: 3,094
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

glad its all done mate, i struggled to torque up the crank bolt too
Old 31-08-2010, 09:26 PM
  #10  
bigjohn0
PassionFord Regular
 
bigjohn0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Co durham
Posts: 368
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I do these all the time and find it just as easy to take the 3 bolts out of the starter and shove it to one side. You can then lock the engine up by sticking something in the flywheel teeth to lock it propper. Makes life very easy for that FOOOOKING crank bolt,,,,,,lol
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RUBY123
Ford RS Turbo Parts for Sale
9
22-10-2023 12:04 PM
matman
Ford Rs Parts For Sale (Not cosworth, or Cvh Turbo)
1
09-09-2015 05:45 PM
cameron2
General Car Related Discussion.
9
25-08-2015 07:18 AM
Gadget
Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1
13-08-2015 06:43 AM
taylora1409
General Car Related Discussion.
3
12-08-2015 12:06 PM



Quick Reply: Hello and quick timing belt queries



All times are GMT. The time now is 06:47 PM.