escorted series 1

Can anyone explain megasquirt as if i was a ten years old, How it works how hard to fit to a series 2 advantages and disadvantages what type would i need.my turbos still mfi so whats involved cheers.It seems cheap to buy as a diy kit.

Rick

if u need it explaining, it isn't for you to do yourself.

Cheap only if your know what you are doing.

escorted series 1

Well this is what i saw and was really interested to see if anyone on heres ever fitted it and to find out how they got on.


M-Tech V2 .5 Mini-Ms with inbuilt WBO2 Controller

M-Tech Mini-MegaSquirt V2.5





The M-Tech V2.5 is a much smaller version of our older V2.2 ECU. It features a fully weathersealed case, with AMPSEAL plug.

This is the all new Megasquirt V2.5. It is a modernised, smaller footprint version of the V2.

It features full waterproofing powerhose proof (sealed to I.P 69K) and AMP Seal connector, as well as inbuilt fuses and relays, so perfect for a kit or race car application with minimal loom.

This version is built to specifically ready to run your Ford Zetec/CVH Turbo (including RS) as well as a normally aspirated Zetec/Duratec/CVH engines.

If you have maxed out your OFAB/OFAC ECU, or just don’t want the hassle of the Mondeo PATS security on the standard ECU, then this is the perfect solution! Ready to Run, base mapped, and fully unlocked.

Gives you true 3D mapping for under Ł300.

We have many base maps and configuration files, built up from our experience of supplying over 300 Megasquirt units to date.

We are so confident in our quality, that we offer a no quibble (not even any small text) TWO YEAR WARRENTY.

If you have one of the following engines, then this is the unit you will need to accurately control both fueling and ignition, and with inbuilt MAP sensor, you can happily run up to 21psi of Boost. (If you need more, as some Zetec Turbos do, then we can upgrade you to a 4-Bar MAP Sensor) Oh and yes, you can finally get rid of that restrictive Air Flow sensor if you are fitting to a Zetec!

• CVH RS Turbo (Escort or Fiesta)
• Custom Zetec Turbo (Any Size/configuration)
• Standard/Throttle Bodied Zetec Engine
• Standard/Throttle Bodied CVH EFi Engine
• Duratec Turbo
• ST150/ST150 Duratec
• Pinto/Cross flow – (Requires a trigger disc to be installed, which we can provide)

For the more adventurous, we must state that this system will run ANY engine if you are willing to fit a 36-1 trigger wheel (Ford EFi engines have this as standard on the flywheel) and EDIS module (which older Ford EFi engines use, and again, we can supply.)

So what do you get in the box?
• An M-Tech Built and Tested Mini-Megasquirt V2.5, issued with TWO YEAR WARANTY and Test Certificate.
• The AMP Seal connector (Automotive grade) ready to be mated to your standard loom. r
• The Software CD, including various base maps, the tuning software, data logging and firmware update tools.
• The Laptop -> ECU connection cable (requires a free RS232 Comm Port)
• Comprehensive instructions (which can be downloaded from our website’s Guides section) showing you exactly how to go about installing and tuning your ECU.

So what else do you need?
• A Ford engine that has the 36-1 Trigger Wheel (Any Ford EFi engine, i.e. Zetec, CVH, Duratec etc)
• An EDIS Module and Coil pack (All Pre-96 EFi Fords have this module, they can be obtained for under Ł30, and we can supply if your local breakers can’t, as we always carry them.)
• The following standard Ford sensors, which should already be fitted to your engine: Inlet Air Temperature, Coolant Temperature, Throttle Position, Crank Position Sensor (Remember, the MAP sensor is built in to the ECU!)

We provide free technical support to help you install the ECU should you need it.

Product Features:

Full 3D Mapping of both Fuel and Ignition (When used with Ford EDIS). 12x12 Tables (MAP/RPM)
Inbuilt MAP sensor for Normally Aspirated and Turbo/Super Charged applications running up to 21psi of boost.
Direct integration with the standard Ford sensors.
Software adjustable RPM/Boost Limiting.
Full support of aftermarket Throttle-Bodies.
Supports 1-16 Injectors using any flow-rate.
3D on road real time mapping using the ibuilt wideband O2 controller, or the option of a live map on a rolling road.
Switchable maps: Economy/Race etc.
Fully tested before dispatch.
Additonal optional extras including: N2O Injection control, Water Injection, Knock Sensors, Launch Control, Shift Lights, Traction Control and many more features.




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Rick

DO NOT BUY from MTECH

They are cowboys, and are selling megasquirt illeagaly.

JesseT

escorted series 1,
If you need it explained to you like you were a 10 year old, read the original mega-manual. It was done by the US folks for the US folks.

Rick,
Just out of curiosity, do you happen to know how they have added the WB-02 functionality?

escorted series 1

Where should i buy from then if i was interested. im not a machanic but do all the work on my car myself and im handy with electrics Just was after seeing if someones used it on a cvh turbo and want advice yay or nay.

taz1787

iTrader: (8)

i know of somebody who had one fitted to his 2.1 zvh and has had no problems with it and they are cheap was thinking of getting one fitted to mine when its in and running properly but gonna see stu at msd first once its in for a setup and see what other improvements he recommends first

Rick

Jesse and I run it.

Jesse - they got the details of the B&G controller....

JesseT

So is the WB managed by the one and same Motorola controller as I can't see much new stuff on the board compared to the old minimegasquirt?

mattymtech

Rick,

Any reason why you should not buy from M-Tech?

This customer seems happy enough with the build quality (we changed him from a V2,5 to a V3 for free as he was unable to wire the Comms lead to the AMPSEAL connector), as do MANY others. A few ECUs 2 years ago did get through the net when my business partner left and tried to make a 'muddle' of it all, but since then, well, its just plain old corportate slander...

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...ighlight=mtech

Perhaps you could ask Carl to open the ECU and photograph it?

Thanks,
Matt

PGT

hi Matt

thinking about MS for my cosworth engine. apart from the ampseal connector in yours whats the the difference between yours and 'genuine' MS?

can your system run using webber marreli 4-1 crank wheel and since its batch firing am i correct in assuming it doesnt need the distributor sensor?

mattymtech

PGT,

Our 2.5 also features the relays and fuses, so you wont need a fuse box, although if fitting to an EFI car, I'd say to go with the V3.0

Yes we can do the 4-1 no problem, done a few cossies that use the exact same trigger, and yes, you can scrap the cam sensor (in fact scrap the dizzy and go wasted spark )

matt

mattymtech

PS.

We will have a rolling road delivered in 4 weeks, so will be running in around 6. Based on west wilts trading estate, westbury (15 miles from Bath)

Will have a chat with the admins about arranging an open day for the passion ford guys.

Our dyno is the latest 2WD, it can do simulated 1.4mi and 0-60 (you may of seen it at fordfair.... we were there with a stand, to sell ECUs, and we bought a dyno lol!)

Cheers,
Matt

notroubleclubber

Soz to up this post but im getting interested in the management side. Ive got a complete standard s2 erst at the mo but slowly restoring it. Engine side i was hoping of getting the head rebuilt with prob a newman cam,a bit of port & polishing,rebuild my turbo (as started to smoke a bit),stainless exhaust & kn filter.Also gonna fit a chip and -31 actuator and raise the boost a bit. I was gonna fit a lamb sensor to so i can see whats going on with the a/f mixture and after hearing about the dreaded mfi system i have was thinking of changing management. It looks like Megasquirt is a good cheap system to use and as your rolling road is in Westbury, im only in swindon so can pop up there for setting up if i get stuck! and after reading the above looks quite cheap however im confused on a few things.
On the above it states if i have pre 96 efi model then id need a trigger wheel (as i got mfi NOT efi) and an edis coil pack. What do i do if ive got MFI, what exactly do i need? Also do i need to buy new injectors,rail,inlet manifold etc?
So i dont have a pre 96 EFI as i got MFI so what do i buy and do and is it hard to install?
Im not after mega power but just nice reliability(which im not gonna get with MFI!) with nice usable power.

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

You will need to convert to EFI mate, or you cant run any sort of after market management, the closet you could get without going EFi is a 5th injector mapped on it's own controller, which if set up nicely gives you better off boost economy and accurate on boost fuelling.
Do a search on here for EFI conversion to see exactly whats invloved mate.

Rick

+1.

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

+1?
What do you mean? lol

craigos

he backs you up

notroubleclubber

Im not gonna go more than about 200bhp as funds dont allow uprated gearboxes etc so prob stick to chip,newman cam,acuator,rebuilt turbo,stainless exhaust,k/n filter and upped boost.May get head prted and polished while having a head rebuilt so if extra fuelling is needed then a 5th injector mite be the way to go.
Wheres the best place to get a kit as not many on ebay.

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

Ah I seee!! lol

kay2

i have to say i had a chat with mat on the phone the other day and he seemed chearful, proffesional, HELPFULL, and genuine. Which is more than can be said some of the more well known tuners that i have encountered during my Ł20000 modifying history of my series 2.

I wasnt going to use megasquirt as i always thought of it as a bit of a bodge job but with the package that is now being offered I see it no different from Gotech which good old Jamsport charge a grand for (and before you say fiitted i think thrown on is more appropriate as im sure NEWTON will agree)

So i think it will be worth the 350 they are charging and ill give it a try if it no good then hey ho its not the end of the world

Rick

MS blows Gotech into the weeds.

kay2

in what way? features? mapping ability/ flexibility?

sara

up im interested in ricks answer

nigel b

the management will only be as good as the mapper

alex f sells the megasquirt kits too

ScoobyMatt

Well guys, our Dyno Dynamics RR has finally turned up, and we are having a Ford open day this saturday (25th/Oct) so feel free to come along, its Ł30 for 2 runs, printout and food, and of course if you are interested in MS then we can give you all the advice you need.

We are also a Jenvey distributor, and are privvy to some good discounts should you be thinking of throttle bodies... We do do a GSXR based TB kit with ECU for Ł950 fitted and mapped, but I dont want to go into further details as we are not yet traders omn here (speaking with Stewart at MSD at the mo to sort all of that..!)

Anyway, if you go to our website (www.mtechautomotive.co.uk) you will be able to sign up for the RR day under the rolling road page.

Hopefully see some of you on saturday!
Matt @ M-Tech

Charlie Chalk

iTrader: (1)

I'm interested why to, as I'm still deciding what to go for!

lukeskywalker

Hi all ive read this threat with interest & now decided to go for it looked on the site (http://www.mtechautomotive.co.uk/) Ł950 fitted & mapped is that still the price (scoobymatt posted 23/10/2008) has there been a price rise yet does any body know

Dr Knockers

i bought from mtech, was struggling with it, read that mtech were to be avoided, so i had sent mine away to another ms builder for testing, he said it was one of the best built he had seen, and on his test bed it was working perfectly, it was my wiring that was wrong and i've had the car running on it since

ScoobyMatt

Hi mate, nope thats the price, Ł950 fitted and mapped

Dr, you should of given us a ring if you are having probs , But yep our ECus are assembled to ISO 9001 spec now (have been for last year or so), hence why he thought it looked good!!

Cheers,
Matt

lukeskywalker

Dr Knockers you are correct avoid them like the plague they are full of promise & shit took 8 weeks for delivery sent wrong parts,no instructions,part that should have been wired in wer not! so i would avoid mtech if i wer you

Antti O

..And remember that wideband lambda kit

M-Tech Automotive

Luke anymore details? Dr Knockers was saying how GOOD the product was!!

What did you lack instructions on? Did you check the included CD? We always meet our 3 week delivery schedule on the V3, unless we run into any issues such as parts shrotages from suppliers etc.

One of the main reasons we are moving to the V4 is it is ni longer hand built, and as it is a universal ECU, not a built to spec item, our delivery will be in most cases next day.

If you can give me a call on 01373 30 30 33 would very much like to put you right, and resolve any outstanding issues.

(Note also that James has been fired ... 'left', he did ocasionally 'talk crap regards delivery timescales' but that was mainly due to being inexperienced with dealing with customers, and for that I can, and will apologise.)

Hope to hear from you soon,
Matt

JesseT

Matt,

Is the "V4 ECU" a MS-II (extra) based project built around a custom board?
Does it incorporate include the WB-o2 driver or support for fully sequential injection as the latest MS-II extra versions? Will it be compatible with the MS-II-compatible digital displays?
I like the design and form factor a lot. It look's to seriously compete with the VEMS 3.6 system.

Regards, Jesse T

M-Tech Automotive

Jesse,

Yes your about right there. It features everything the MSII-X does. Our V5 (whcih is due over the next 12 months) will be taking things forward offering fully sequential fueling and inbuilt WBO2 controller.

The V4 is mainly a step awat fro the V3. It allows a more robust, complete, out of the box solution that remvoes the 'faffing' you often find with megsaquirt (couple that with the bad rep MS has with rolling roads!) which I can testify to, many 'home built' users ECUs simply fall apart after a few months, or are so incorrectly setup, it requires 2 hours of electronics before we can begin mapping!

Cheers,
Matt