fish99

Hello chaps,

My Escort will be coming home soon after being at my mates for a paintwork freshen up and I was thinking that now that it has 76k on it and already suffered a snapped cam belt (16 valves replaced etc and minor valve marks in pistons) that I would really like to give the engine a rebuilt (well not me but someone who actually knows what they are doing) , can anyone recommend someone who can actually do this and for the engine to be able to handle 350-380bhp without me worrying about it going bang. Even better if someone has a rough cost also.....cheers

oh yeah BT by the way

Neil

tabetha

I would not hesitate in using engine advantages(witham), used them myself, and was very impressed.
saying that though it is one of the easiest DIY engines to do, the engine will handle the power no problem, it is the box you need to look after on 4wd.
tabetha

R5FORD

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reyland.

J1mbo

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harvey gibbs @ scs

LHD220Turbo

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numerous engine builders on here, harvey gibbs, msd etc but if your handy with a spanner they are very simple engines

standard internals will cope easy with 380bhp, but i wouldnt let that sort of power run through a standard box, they really need upgrading after 350bhp

thanks

MikeR

Mark Shead @ MAD

But all of the above have customers that are happy with there work, l have only used Mark and will return back with my next car

Mike

fish99

Im ok with a spanner but I have never taken an a block apart and started messing around with..to be honest if I did it I would be worrying that it would break down on me.

Cheers for the reply lads.... Will ring around to get a few prices.. like i say dont want to go to mad as the car is standard at the mo anyway so anything will be a vast improvement.

Would like MSD to do the work due to their excellent rep but would mean stripping engine out and getting it up to them

tabetha

Just drive the car to them, after making arrangements I am sure they would do thew whole taking out, strip/rebuild put back, map etc.
tabetha

fish99

although that would be a sensible thing to do I am planning to make use of the time the engine is not in to do a bit of underbody and engine bay painting.

J1mbo

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from what i no harvey will strip, blast + plate and rebuilt your engine for you and sort a chip for you im not familiar with mad's,msd's work but they might do the same ??? hope this help you

fish99

Cheers Beanhead, looks like ill be busy making phone calls tomorrow : )

Kelv

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only my own opinion but - even tho its a tuner on your door step.

i would seriously avoid Engine Advantages!!

not going to get in a tit for tat reasoning convo with other users over it, but do a search mate and you may get a vague idea why.

Bullett

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wouldnt touch engine disadvantages myself.only list to use

reyland
scs
nms
mad

fish99

Cheers dudes, Ill be making some calls tomorrow to see who can offer me the most for my cash.

mikedaf2

try julian godfrey engineering mate on 01435 865999 they build these engines every day of the week on rally cross cars that run around 800bhp but can cater for all types of tune.

KSA-Cossie

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MSD don't do yb rebuilds anymore .

fish99

Cheers mate that has saved me a phone call..

tabetha

KELV,
Maybe EA just didn't like you!!
tabetha

Rolls

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Kelvs not the only person on here that that particular opinion though..
I'm well aware that bad news travels twice as far, and for tiwce as long as good news, but after hearing some of the stories about various tuners on here, i would stick with one of the big 4 (given that MSD don't do YB builds anymore...) - Reyland, SCS, NMS or MAD...
If it were my money, i'd (and probably will in the next year or so) go with reyland...

tabetha

I can only say my experience of him, admittedly just the one time so far was excellent, but do concede others seem to have been treated differently to myself.
tabetha

Chip

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What you want is so simple, that ANY reputable engine builder should have no trouble at all to do that.

I would comrpession test and leakdown test your engine though, and decide if it actually needs a rebuild or not, 380bhp to a standard YB is nothing really, they will do that even with a few miles on them and still be reliable.

Chip

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PS

Of the specialists, Reyland gets my vote for a basic rebuild like that.

I havent had personal dealings with NMS or SCS, and out of MAD and Reyland, Martin is more geared up for delivering an engine rebuild to you quickly, MAD tend to do only higher spec engines and tend to involve more lengthy build times, where as Martin is great at turning stuff like that around very quickly.

thedaddie

how about field motorsport, local to you.

http://www.fieldmotorsport.com/

adamski frst

book in early and go with MAD never go back.. Agreed mark can be slow sometimes but that is simply down to his popularity and busy business... i agree alot of the above are good i have not bad word to say about them, BUT mark can always seem to get his engine's to get the power desired which is why i went with him... well worth the wait...

can't wait to upgrade mine again.

fish99

I spoke to Tim at SCS today (cheers Beanhead) and he has said a ball park figure of about 3-3.5k depending on whether my Turbo needs sorting etc.The compression will be lowered etc (cant remember the reason for that) and the car to be run on light blues, and every nut and bolt replaced with the cam cover / block repainted.. all in all i thought that was a good price.

Basically I havent had any problems with the block side of the engine but I had the cam belt slip on me about 5 years ago which bent all 16 valves and left valve score marks in 2 pistons. I had the head rebuilt by some mechanic chap my bro knows who replaced the valves with all new ford valves, lifters and alledgedly guides. Me and my brother put the car back together in order for me to drive it to the bodyshop where I have had a full repaint minus engine bay. The thing is I now have the bug again for the car and I want to restore the car underneath and I thought the last thing I want to do is do all that and for some reason it goes bang. I just feel if I get it fully rebuilt (why the missus is giving me the go ahead) then I should have some time happy motoring...and that way I can get engine bay repainted

The thing is there has always been something wrong with the car ie knocking or vibrating so I thought right lets getting it running and built right once and for all

Ill even have to check the transmission parts as when I got it recovered when it broke down the numpty recovery bloke recovered it as a front lift strapping the front wheels up. He then proceeded to drive at 30mph for about 300yards down the hard should before I could stop him...I dont know if that will damage diffs or gearbox etc.

Cheers for the input everyone, it really is appreciated. I will have loads more questions for you all soon and hope to put it up in a resto thread.

Neil

Mark Shead

Chip

This is the common misconception I do many stock rebiulds within a given time frame, Most people think I only do big biulds due to me biulding some very big engines and think I wouldnt be intereasted It doesnt help with you thinking the same and posting a guess.

Mark

Mark Shead

[quote=Metpol;3246890]I spoke to Tim at SCS today (cheers Beanhead) and he has said a ball park figure of about 3-3.5k depending on whether my Turbo needs sorting etc.The compression will be lowered etc (cant remember the reason for that) and the car to be run on light blues,

All Decreasing compression will reduce engine efficiency and increase consumption and lowering potencial power at that spec, But hey it sounds good.

Mark

fish99

Aha, Mark can I have your tel number so I can talk to you about mine,obviously at a more reasonable hour then please.



Cheers

Neil

J1mbo

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[quote=Mark Shead;3246928]so mark would you not lower the compression going for 380 bhp then??
doing this would surely be better if he wanted to go a bit better spec in the future??

Mark Shead

[quote=beanhead;3247186]No as you dont need to go lower than 8-1 on just about any spec engine.

Mark

J1mbo

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[quote=Mark Shead;3247673]on ANY spec ?? how come other engine builders decide to go lower compression does this make it more safe or last longer ??