Technical help Q & A Got A technical problem with you car? Keep it in here where the techies hang out and we will try to solve it for you!!

More Stage 3 Questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:35 AM
  #1  
Nik_W's Avatar
Nik_W
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
From: P'boro
Default More Stage 3 Questions

I've just taken delivery of a set of 803s and 3 bar map sensor. I also have a Ahmed Bayjoo stage 3 chip to go with them. I am running standard T3 turbo and 2WD intercooler for now. What sort of boost can I run with this sort of set up and would I need to change the plugs?

Cheers!
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:45 AM
  #2  
Guinnless's Avatar
Guinnless
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 968
Likes: 12
From: Lancashire
Default

Keep the boost to around 18psi and swap the plugs for NGK9s from one of the traders on here. Stu etc
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 12:01 PM
  #3  
Nik_W's Avatar
Nik_W
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
From: P'boro
Default

Thanks for that. What sort of power can I expect at 18psi?
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 12:23 PM
  #4  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by turbo-nutter
Thanks for that. What sort of power can I expect at 18psi?

Stage 1 boost = stage 1 power 270bhp simple

Best bet to fit a 4x4 or 500 cooler and crank up the boost to 25 spike and 21 held !!!
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 01:44 PM
  #5  
Guinnless's Avatar
Guinnless
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 968
Likes: 12
From: Lancashire
Default

18psi is not stage one boost

2wd T3s won't like being driven at your quoted boost levels. A 4x4 will be closer to your quoted figures.

A T3/4 would be ideal all round.

A held 24/25psi then
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 01:55 PM
  #6  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Steve,

By Stg 1 boost I meant 15psi, but some do spike at 18psi


A T3 in GOOD health WILL be ok at 20+ psi (for a time) Mine Is

But as you say t34 would be a better bet
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 01:57 PM
  #7  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Steve,

By Stg 1 boost I meant relatively speaking i.e. 15psi= 1 bar= stag 1, but some do spike at 18psi


A T3 in GOOD health WILL be ok at 20+ psi (for a time) Mine Is

But as you say t34 would be a better bet
Reply
Old Apr 7, 2004 | 10:06 PM
  #8  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

HI.

You can learn something new anytime, i thought 15psi was stage 1, until
i emailed karl norris of NORRIS MOTORSPORT, his stage 1+ will peak at 24psi
and held 18psi at 6000rpm dropping to 14. at 7000rpm, to cut a log story short its in the chip parameters, on yellow std injectors sierra cosworth. i was thinking
like everyone else based on map sensor ie 2,bar set up 15psi boost. karl
does his chips from scratch, where i think most tuners have a base file to start with.
Dave.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 12:19 AM
  #9  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Sorry for hiking... A set of 803s, 3 bar map sensor, Ahmed Bayjoo stage 3 chip, Engine Breather, Forge RS500 intercooler, Standard T3 Turbo in a hot tropical climate (singapore). How much boost can I run?

I have a Stage 3 T3/T04S (60-1 compressor) with Tial external wastegate and custom exhaust manifold. How much boost can I run with a Stage 3 chip with the T3/T4?
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 08:27 AM
  #10  
Guinnless's Avatar
Guinnless
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 968
Likes: 12
From: Lancashire
Default

Originally Posted by davidreader5
HI.

You can learn something new anytime, i thought 15psi was stage 1, until
i emailed karl norris of NORRIS MOTORSPORT, his stage 1+ will peak at 24psi
and held 18psi at 6000rpm dropping to 14. at 7000rpm, to cut a log story short its in the chip parameters, on yellow std injectors sierra cosworth. i was thinking
like everyone else based on map sensor ie 2,bar set up 15psi boost. karl
does his chips from scratch, where i think most tuners have a base file to start with.
Dave.
Yes mate we all know about Karls Stg1 "Gunship" conversion . It's very cleverly done to extract the most out of a standard setup. But Karl needs to be very sure of your engine.

With a Stg1 OTS chip you'd be better of peaking around 17psi and holding 15psi.

HTH
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 12:49 PM
  #11  
Nik_W's Avatar
Nik_W
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
From: P'boro
Default

I'm not to fussed about killing the T3 as it will be replaced in a couple of months but would it be safe for me to run say 20psi on 803s, 3 bar, stage 3 chip, standard intercooler, -31?
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 02:23 PM
  #12  
Switch's Avatar
Switch
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,328
Likes: 0
From: Dudley
Default

I run 21-22psi held on a T3 hybrid, 4x4 cooler, greens and a baileymotorsport chip power is excellent.

turbo-nutter, i would advise changing to at least a 4x4 i/cooler asap, you can pick one up for Ł75 ish then sell your 2wd one for approx Ł40.
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:36 PM
  #13  
Nik_W's Avatar
Nik_W
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
From: P'boro
Default

Yep, that is also the plan, just gotta build my paypal account up a touch more and start searching on eBay
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:28 PM
  #14  
Anonymous's Avatar
Anonymous
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by turbo-nutter
Yep, that is also the plan, just gotta build my paypal account up a touch more and start searching on eBay
Hey, I've got one for sale. Interested? Do you know who I am?

Lemme check out the postage from Singapore...
Reply
Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:51 PM
  #15  
Nik_W's Avatar
Nik_W
Thread Starter
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
From: P'boro
Default

Yep, I know who you are, I think I gave you the link to PF
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gcfcos
General Car Related Discussion.
59
Oct 6, 2015 05:04 PM
Mc5506
Ford Escort RS Turbo
6
Oct 5, 2015 09:57 PM
M7 COS
Wheels and Tyres
3
Oct 1, 2015 04:46 PM
stevecfrst1
Cars for Sale
1
Sep 30, 2015 05:18 AM
A.t.p
Ford Escort RS Turbo
22
Sep 29, 2015 05:04 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 10:47 PM.