i have a granada, love it, but the engine is not brilliant. so i was thinking, a swap might be in order. what i had in mind was either the 2.3 or 2.0 16v engine from a scorpio. but the thing is i have no idea whether or not it bolts in or do i need to make mounts, and i have some similar questions. has anybody done anything similar?

 

Seen a bloke running a twin turbo chevy V8 in one, 2400BHP road legal, took his kids to school in it. No, they won't just fit, what engine does it have? 2.9 V6? If not a 2.9 V6 has 160 brake and tuneable.

 

24v cossy lump is a nice conversion and runs about 210bhp a lot better than the cologne v6 12v

 

You don't say what engine you have I am guessing it's something like a Pinto? If so I would be sticking with this as it's quite a good engine and very tunable.

The engines you mention are I4 (DOHC) they were also fitted to Galaxys (The early ones), they have moderate respect but again I would not have one over a Pinto personally.

Also if running one in standard FI guise you will need management loom etc, plus alot of other work.

Martin

 

I disagree, the Cossy 24V is a bag of shit IMO, not tuneable at all.
Cologne V6's sound better too again, IMO.
As said, i forgot about the Pinto, 200BHP is achieveable and you can always get the EFI version, de-comp it and bolt a Turbo on there. Or, get the Turbo version lol!

 

yeah, it's a pinto, but it has a lot of problems: the alternator just died, there is something wrong with the fuel pump, also the radiator and the starter motor. i could fix all that, but i would still be left with a fuel guzzling engine that isn't very powerful. so i was realy hoping to change it to a bit more modern lump.

 

the cologne v6 sounds shit and its under powered mate the 24v is a lot a lot better sounding with a nice exhaust and yes they are tuneable with manifolds chip etc and the usual mods can see about 240 ish bhp then theres turbo's etc just look at top boss blue sierra

 

Yes, mods are availiable, by 'tuneable' i mean the mods you give them don't give much power, 300 brake is about your lot.
160 brake isn't under powered. IMO a Granada needs something old skool fitted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQChNM_ekmc
You're saying that sounds shit? You need your ears testing mate.
"The usual mods see around 240BHP" isn't a good thing considering it's 204 brake standard.
The GA Cologne V6's saw 450 brake ' '

 

160 bhp i'n a Granada is well under powered considering how much they weigh and I've seen 24v lumps twin turbo'd running 450/500 bhp fairly easily

 

You said nothing about a Granada underneath it you just said the Cologne V6 is under powered.
Goes to show how crap they are then, you have to bolt two turbo's to it to get the same power a Cologne V6 can normally aspirated.

 

Read the post mate it says Granada engine swap.

 

Good spot. You said "the cologne v6 sounds shit and its under powered mate".

 

Yep definitely is

 

The old 2.8 v6 sounds like a sowing machine haha

 

It isn't under powered, everyone thinks "pfft 160 brake that's nothing" my Hillman Imp has 40 brake and it goes alright for what it is, i reckon it would out class most modern cars with 1.0L engines, possibly 1.2's because it's so light. 160 brake is far from under powered, think of it from when the engine came out, that was pretty damn powerful. Also, think about it, the Cologne V6 has one cam and 12 valves. The Scorpio V6 has twice as many valves and 4 cams and it's only achieved 40 brake more and it's a lot more modern so you'd think the overall engine would have improved.

 

i live in latvia and here i have close to no v6s in fords, because ford is considered more of an economy car than a performance one, so nobody realy bought them with v6s. and i like the idea of a straight-4 better, i don't know why, i just do.
i have heard that swapping the 16v in to a sierra is pretty straight forward and doesn't the sierra have the same pinto engine? or it doesn't work like that?

 

The mounts that bolt to the engine are likely to be the same, that doesn't necessarily mean that it will have the same mounts bolting it to the car.

 

ford V8 or be different duratec v6 or volvo T5

 

I don't know why 160bhp keeps getting mentioned for the 2.8 V6 cologne engine, ford lied, on average they were nearer 135, a seriously good one was 140.
I had a newly run in 2.8 V6, modded heads, fast road cam, and it was 146bhp, on magnex SS system K&N etc, power jumped when on LPG though!!
I'm currently helping a fellow pf'r that is going twin turbo cossie V6 route, which will be between 450-500 bhp, hopefully once mapped.
tabetha

 

As i said before, the GA ones were 450 brake.

 

exactly my point mate the v6 cologne is kak end of but some peps on here just dont listen

 

how much is that twin turbo conversion costing out of interest?

 

The DOHC (I4) and Pinto are completly different engines, Sierra's were fitted with both, but never 16V so yes seen as the latter is the same engine with a different head it should be fairly straight forward in theory.

Martin

 

How about your opinion isn't necessarily the opinion of others. I'm not 'listening' because i like this engine.

 

Every dyno is different they don't all read the same figures as you well know.

 

just my opinion but it doesnt matter what i think ive only been around these cars/engines for the past 20+ years

 

And my Pa has been around them for 45 years, whats your point?