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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Hi, iv got a 1.8 focus (zetec blacktop) and lookin at upgrading my cams.

Firstly, is it worthwhile running kent cams with std pulleys? Are is it a waste of money if not usin kent pulleys?

Also, there is two types of cams. The sport and the sport r's? Wud it be worth gettin the sport cams?

Info below:
Sport's:

Part No
Part Type
Description
FOCUS 1
Camshaft
Sports




Sports
2000-6000
I 9.95 E 9.25
I 9.70 E 9.00
I 292 Deg E 278 Deg
36/76 69/29
I 110 Deg E 110 Deg
0.25
I 1.34mm E 0.68mm
N/A




Sport R's:

Part No
Part Type
Description
FOCUS 12
Camshaft
Sports ' R '


Sports ' R '
2000-6500
I 10.30 E 9.95
I 10.05 E 9.70
292 Deg
36/76 76/36
I 110 E 110
0.25
I 2.13mm E1.09mm
CF66


Let me no wot u think please

Thanks,

Matt
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 10:22 AM
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Depends what you want, I'd go for the 1st one, the latter one will be far more aggressive, not very good for std, you won't gain much if anything with a vernier pulley with the rest being std, I would just get the cam if you want.
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Depends what you want, I'd go for the 1st one, the latter one will be far more aggressive, not very good for std, you won't gain much if anything with a vernier pulley with the rest being std, I would just get the cam if you want.
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cheers for the reply. iv got hold of the sports ones (the first ones). so it wudnt be a waste of time havin the kent cam wit std pulleys then? wud they still be able set them up so i get worthwhile gains?
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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It certainly wouldn't be a waste of time getting just the cam, they will only be able to set it to std setting using the std pulleys, unless they use dial gauge etc as the zetec cams are not keyed to the pulley wheels anyway, but only thing it will do is move the power around a bit, but a gain at one end will lose at the other end without mods.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
It certainly wouldn't be a waste of time getting just the cam, they will only be able to set it to std setting using the std pulleys, unless they use dial gauge etc as the zetec cams are not keyed to the pulley wheels anyway, but only thing it will do is move the power around a bit, but a gain at one end will lose at the other end without mods.
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thats gud to no! so best to jus the std settin on std pulley so i dont loose power at any end? will speak to tuners again see wot they say as i dont no wot im talkin bout lol
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std pulley std setting will defo be close enough and best.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
std pulley std setting will defo be close enough and best.
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not that iv ignored wot u said lol. but got hold of sum new piper vernier pulleys cheap. is it worth fittin them? wud i get extra gains? or shud i sell them on?
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If you intend on doing other mods in the future fit them, as they can be adjusted when/if needed later on.
You can also dial them each way to see if you can get any gains on the rolling road, but don't expect anything big from this, any power higher up for example is likely to be at the expense of lower down, but have a play and see what happens.
I once got a massive gain from a pinto std pulley after some numpty managed to set the cam timing TWO teeth out, luckily no damage!!
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Originally Posted by tabetha
If you intend on doing other mods in the future fit them, as they can be adjusted when/if needed later on.
You can also dial them each way to see if you can get any gains on the rolling road, but don't expect anything big from this, any power higher up for example is likely to be at the expense of lower down, but have a play and see what happens.
I once got a massive gain from a pinto std pulley after some numpty managed to set the cam timing TWO teeth out, luckily no damage!!
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i prob wont be doin any more mods, prob jus a remap! wud prefer the power spread up the revs (kent site says 2-6k) which is bout rite. prob wudnt get it r.r'd so in that case is it not worth it? Matt
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I wouldn't have bothered buying them but as you have them up to you, can't see them being of any use tbh, on std stuff, would be better off selling on.
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Old Nov 17, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
I wouldn't have bothered buying them but as you have them up to you, can't see them being of any use tbh, on std stuff, would be better off selling on.
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is this about the cams or pulleys? matt
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s it worth fittin them? wud i get extra gains? or shud i sell them on?
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