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Old 18-11-2007, 06:59 PM
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Hi...does anyone have a clue how to translate afr numbers to Lambda number and Co % numbers....??

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Its not possible to do an exact translation from lambda to CO as lamda encompasses CO/CO2/O2 all in its calculation, so you can end up with a different lamba reading for the same amount of CO or vice versa.
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14.7:1 AFR = Lambda 1.00

Some more detailed info here: http://www.byui.edu/Automotive/Lambda.pdf
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Originally Posted by Billabong
14.7:1 AFR = Lambda 1.00

Some more detailed info here: http://www.byui.edu/Automotive/Lambda.pdf
..... thanks..but it seems complicated ....

the thing is that I have a AFR gauge in the car, and I would like to see what the different AFR readings is in lambda numbers ....
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Hi,

CO ratio AFR





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Originally Posted by 2001ode
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CO ratio AFR





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thanks......
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Originally Posted by 2001ode
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CO ratio AFR





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Claude
I think this diagram is a particular case. For example at idle my cos have 14.7-15afr and CO is 2.4-2.6%

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Hi Yura,

May be your AFR is not right.

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Originally Posted by 2001ode
Hi Yura,

May be your AFR is not right.

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Originally Posted by 2001ode
Hi Yura,

May be your AFR is not right.

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Claude
Hi! I use innovate XD-16 kit - one of the best afr device
I think the presence of the cat have effect too, i haven't it.
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Yura is correct i think. cats =lower total CO %
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Hmmm... .... but there must be some way to directly take a AFR number and convert it to either lambda or Co%.....hopfully

Anyone ???
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Originally Posted by 2wd
Hmmm... .... but there must be some way to directly take a AFR number and convert it to either lambda or Co%.....hopfully

Anyone ???
as already said above by a few people you can relate an AFR to lambda (although there are different types of lambda using different calculations, try googling brettschneider and spindt)
but not to CO, as you can raise CO, with a corresponding decrease in CO2 but have the same lambda ( and therefore AFR)

hope that makes sense

my tech edge display has a jumper that can be set to give either AFR or lambda depending what's required, I prefer lambda now
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am i right in thinking that things like combustion temperature can affect CO without a change in lambda/AFR?
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Originally Posted by the original
Originally Posted by 2wd
Hmmm... .... but there must be some way to directly take a AFR number and convert it to either lambda or Co%.....hopfully

Anyone ???
as already said above by a few people you can relate an AFR to lambda (although there are different types of lambda using different calculations, try googling brettschneider and spindt)
but not to CO, as you can raise CO, with a corresponding decrease in CO2 but have the same lambda ( and therefore AFR)

hope that makes sense

my tech edge display has a jumper that can be set to give either AFR or lambda depending what's required, I prefer lambda now
Hmmm...ok...I run the Dynojet Wideband Commander and I only get the AFR numbers, and I'm trying to figure out witch numbers are ok when driving "normal" ... at boost and at idle.....and witch are not ok...
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interesting post

so, you cant set the co with a afr gauge, i though that it was possible, but i was wrong...
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Originally Posted by 2wd
Originally Posted by the original
Originally Posted by 2wd
Hmmm... .... but there must be some way to directly take a AFR number and convert it to either lambda or Co%.....hopfully

Anyone ???
as already said above by a few people you can relate an AFR to lambda (although there are different types of lambda using different calculations, try googling brettschneider and spindt)
but not to CO, as you can raise CO, with a corresponding decrease in CO2 but have the same lambda ( and therefore AFR)

hope that makes sense

my tech edge display has a jumper that can be set to give either AFR or lambda depending what's required, I prefer lambda now
Hmmm...ok...I run the Dynojet Wideband Commander and I only get the AFR numbers, and I'm trying to figure out witch numbers are ok when driving "normal" ... at boost and at idle.....and witch are not ok...
took me ages to find this fucking search is so shonky

hope it helps you Dynojet Wideband Commander ...

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=163279
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Originally Posted by sygjim
interesting post

so, you cant set the co with a afr gauge, i though that it was possible, but i was wrong...
NO

But you can set the fuelling, which means if all else is working ok the CO will be fine too.


But its possible to have different CO values and the same AFR value, or vice versa.
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do you if there is method to set the co at a know value without any co controler (like number of turn on the ecu screw, ...)?




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