GVic1987

Hey folks,

i own a 1.4 CVH Engined 1996/97 N Reg Ford Escort, i have ruined that engine and now wish to go forth and install a 1.6 and ultimatly turn it into an RS Turbo mk6...

I've bought this engine:

With all the ancil's bar the gearbox, ill be keeping as much of my equipment as possible as i know all mine is perfect,

My engine has an EFi injection system, the 1.6 doesnt i personally cant tell what system is on the above picture but its not EFi, i dont wish to go into changing looms and ecu's just yet so what would happen if i were to put my 1.6 engine into the car, and install my 1.4 EFi Injection system to it?

Would it run? if i could get into the ECU config would i be able to minipulate it to overfuel enuff to run the 1.6? are they the same efi? i'm told to get the EFi system from a Fiesta 1.6 XR2i, is this true? if so will my ECU run it properly? and will it be a bolt & plug in job? because i dont wish to change looms etc.

GVic1987

Nobody knows cvh's?

antony215

That picture above is an MFI system and it's not a stright swap. The block and the head are slightly different to the EFI one's. The EFI block has a hole in it for the cps sensor that engine you've bought wont have that, the EFI head ports are different to the MFI ones but you can get adapter plates for that. You also need to change the ECU,map sensor ect.. it would be ALOT! easyer to get a 1.6 EFI engine and head (out of something like an XR2i) it will go stright in then all you need to do is change the ECU and MAP sensor ect...

djmillsy

as he said abpve wpuld be to costly adn not easy just get a wrecked xr2i or 3i

GVic1987

thanks for the advice guys,

1.6 MFi engine going free if anyone wants it? its no use to me if it wont fit only done 10k miles from new.

Maki

I never heard of 1.4 EFI CVH.... maybe you are talking about mono single injection one? But anyway as I read what you wright I understand that it will be to hard for you to do the job. So get the second hand 1.4 and don't play

SafeChav

Your 1.4 SEFI management will be of about as much use on an RS Turbo engine as a chocolate teapot.

Who said an MFI engine wont fit

SafeChav

not quite as straight forward as that.....the 1.4 SEFI uses a MAF sensor and is sequential injection..........

antony215

Are you shore thats whats in them 1.4 escorts
only time i've heard of SEFI management is in them lincoln continentals in the usa

No one said it "wont" fit

DazC

iTrader: (1)

He means single point fuel injection (i.e a fucking glorified carb, modified junk).

You'd be better off ditching the entire set up in the car and fitting the CVH, with a boss welded into the sump for the turbo oil return and fitting an aftermarket EFI system like Emerald, Omex, Gotech etc. I'd use the 3i/2i/FRST inlet for ease of instalation and get it mapped. You are then free to easily upgrade the car for extra power when you so desire.

SafeChav

100% mate

Only came in the Mk6's though, 1.4 sequential EFI......they have a cam phase sensor where the fuel pump blank normally is on the head, and obviously the cam no longer has the eccentric lobe that would of driven a mechanical fuel pump.

antony215

I take it this is the one he has looks almost the same as a 1.6 and it dont look to be single piont

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Escort-MK...QQcmdZViewItem

Maki

That's new to me

SafeChav

Indeed thats the engine in question.

MarkN

Those 1.4 SEFI engines weren't actually called CVHs at all. I think they were referred to as PTE engines because they had a pent roof combustion chamber rather than a hemspherical one.

Ford like to change names for existing engines from time to time as it makes people think they're getting a new engine instead of an ancient one . Endura-E anyone?

SafeChav

PTE indeed

strange though - ford never changed the name of a CVH when they went over to lean burn........which didn't retain the hemispherical combustion chamber.

nice one Ford