Dexa

I just bought a 92 fiesta 1.8i zetec. And my question is now, how many bhp does it have? Anyway i can see that on the engine somehow.

Just wondering beacause a friend of mine who is a mechanic says it got 130, but on the web it says 105

just got a picture of the engine. (taken by cellphone)
Dont mind my temporary waterhose solution

fiestaturbo1984

iTrader: (3)

on the intake pipe that runs across rocker cover it should say 105ps or 130 ps

Dexa

hmm.. Mine is completely black. No sticker on there

Garage19

Check te internal size of the throttle body. If its is 59/60mm then it is the 130 engine. If it is smaller it is the 105. I think you will find only the RS1800s where fitted with the 130 1800 zetec.

Dexa

hmm... this is what i measured
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Turbosy

Take the black intake pipe off & measure the inside of the throttle body. If its flat, its a 130. If its tapered, its a 105.
XR2i's r 105 & RS1800i's r 130.

SY

Dexa

hmm... do you have a picture of both the 105 and 130 i can see?

Turbosy

Both engines look the same. They r the same except the 130 has different cams, ecu, throttle body, injectors & little oil injectors under each piston. Some 1 told me the air flow meter is different but i dont think so.

SY

sailorbob

I suspect the MAFs are different, just because they might look physically the same doesn't mean that they are calibrated the same. The Mondeo 1.8l BLOB, SACK and SEAL MAFs are different from the Fiesta 1.8l 2FCD MAF.

16vzetec

all xr2i's are 105 spec.
even if its got 130 throttle body its probably still got the 105 cams and ecu.
take the ecu out from under the dash on passengers side.
if it ends in cd its a 105
if it ends in bc its 130

reality

That's definately not a 130PS.. you can tell quite clearly by looking at the inlet manifold!

16vzetec

inlet manifolds are identical

reality

You couldn't be more wrong..

jdfiesta

so true, the inlet manifolds have a larger internal diameter on the rs1800


that clearly shows the differences
JJ

16vzetec

well i think its more a case of ford using different castings for different years, i have broken 15 zetecs and 6 130's and they have all been the same appart from two l reg ones i had.
1 l reg had the smaller ports but it was 1.6, 1 l reg was a fiesta and the casting saying efi was rough and looks terrible quality.

Dexa

Thanks for the many replays. Ill check the ecu later this evening then. Cheers

pee vee

If the car has Disc brakes on the Rear, then its 130

PS> only RS1800s were the 130 spec zetec in fiestas

Dexa

Just checked the ECU, and it ends in CD

So i guess it only has 105bhp! And yes, it aint got disc breaks on the rear


Can anyone help me how to covert it to a 130bhp version then? Cause then i can take a look at the local crapyard later this week for the parts needed.

Cheers

reality

You need the 130PS inlet manifold, throttle body, ISCV, cams, MAF and ECU.. hardly worth it.. Just buy a faster car

16vzetec

maf's are identical and inlets dont make any odds as they all have to run through the same injector inlet piece

Dexa

So all i need then is the Ecu, Cams and throttlebody?

Heard something about taking from a mondeo ?

Garage19

Yes 2ltr cams and TB from a mondy will work.

sailorbob

Are you sure?

16vzetec

2.0l cams are different to 130 cams.
only the exhaust cam is the same as 130 spec.
inlet cams are higher lift on 130.
the maf's are the same/
only differences are;
cams
ecu code bc
throttle body
and oil jets under pistons (not needed)

Bungle

Hooray for the sound of someone with sense, I have an xr3i 130 and this man IS correct, no if's no but's no maybe's

reality

Yeah? What is the lift and duration of the 1800 130PS and 2000 136PS Inlet cams?

16vzetec

i havnt got figures but 2.0l is for torque and 130 spec is more for bhp

ford 4ever

Hello Guys, i buy an rs1800 fiesta mk3 `1993 model.. i see this , discussion, about the 105bhp & 130bhp...Im Little Confused,, But My Throttle Body is flat & 60mm Diameter, when i removed the black plastic hose.. ``i dont have the sticker on the black plastic hose... Sooo i removed the ecu & the code is ``2FDC`` Eec - iv gsktcad 2e211 *b2lc329l6vc* 92FB - 12A650 - DC...

``````I don`t see the BC For the 130bhp or CD for the 105bhp @ the end of the code,, & to check the Cams anyone know about them to confirm which i have, 105 or the 130 One`s.... Thanksssss...