General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

Buying a reco engine from breakers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 10:36 AM
  #1  
1986rs's Avatar
1986rs
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: sydney
Default Buying a reco engine from breakers

Hello guys.
im looking at buying an engine for my 3 door, The engine in it is getting a bit sad and I'm in Aussy so there is not a lot to choose from here. Any way I see there are breakers selling reconditioned engines has anyone bought one or know if there a good build etc , they seem to go for 6000 - 9000 depending on spec ?
Thanks
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 03:58 PM
  #2  
Adam-M's Avatar
Adam-M
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,120
Likes: 316
From: Scotland
Default

Probably better contacting one of the cossie specialists and see what options they give you, I’d not want to pay 9k for an engine that’s came from a breakers imo
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 05:08 PM
  #3  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

RS breakers in Southampton?

would it not be cheaper to ship your engine to a specialist in the UK for a rebuild. Some can also run it in on a engine dyno ready for a drop in.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 05:29 PM
  #4  
Thrush's Avatar
Thrush
Irritating c........
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 21,268
Likes: 147
From: The Dark Side of the Moon...
Default

Originally Posted by costina
RS breakers in Southampton?

would it not be cheaper to ship your engine to a specialist in the UK for a rebuild. Some can also run it in on a engine dyno ready for a drop in.
From Sydney? I bet that'd cost a few thousand AUD for return shipping
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 05:32 PM
  #5  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

Originally Posted by Thrush
From Sydney? I bet that'd cost a few thousand AUD for return shipping
Yes the shipping cost would be great but wouldn't that be better than paying 9k for a unknown engine.?

Would it be cheaper to but a engine from Italy and there was a specialist selling low miles 4x4 green top engines.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 09:37 PM
  #6  
cossynut2's Avatar
cossynut2
PassionFord Post Whore!!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,587
Likes: 403
From: Holbury,Southampton
Default

Originally Posted by Adam-M
Probably better contacting one of the cossie specialists and see what options they give you, I’d not want to pay 9k for an engine that’s came from a breakers imo
The well known Cosworth breakers do quite often have good engines for sale with a comprehensive list of what has been done to them.Different situation from buying something from a general car breaker who may have got his hands on a RS Cosworth and would have an engine for sale with no knowledge of what its like.
Reply
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 09:58 PM
  #7  
1986rs's Avatar
1986rs
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: sydney
Default Reco engine

Originally Posted by costina
RS breakers in Southampton?

would it not be cheaper to ship your engine to a specialist in the UK for a rebuild. Some can also run it in on a engine dyno ready for a drop in.
yes engines are advertised at rs cosworth breakers in Hampshire , are these guys ok ?
i have the 205 block and was after the better 200 unit and latter model head, these guys seems to do complete rebuilds that sound good? Plus an extra engine would be good, what place in Italia sells engines ?
thanks for your replies guys, were a bit limited to cosworth gear over here!
Reply

Trending Topics

Old Jul 31, 2018 | 11:02 AM
  #8  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

Oppliger motorsport had some engines for sale.

If he still has some I don't know.

Never had any dealing with the RS breakers so cannot comment.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2018 | 11:52 AM
  #9  
charlie luciano's Avatar
charlie luciano
10K+ Poster!!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 88
From: Classified
Default

Whilst I’m sure that RS breakers or Oppliger would supply you with a decent unit it’s going to cost you a lot of money to get an engine shipped to Aus, with the added worry of it getting to you undamaged, there is a Cosworth and RS following over in Aus, is there no specialists over there who could rebuild your engine for you?
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2018 | 11:53 AM
  #10  
cossie2's Avatar
cossie2
Regular Contributor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 304
Likes: 33
From: Croatia
Default

had very bad experience with one of the breakers...better to contact Oppliger Motorsport as advised previously....
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2018 | 09:23 PM
  #11  
cossynut2's Avatar
cossynut2
PassionFord Post Whore!!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,587
Likes: 403
From: Holbury,Southampton
Default

Originally Posted by 1986rs


yes engines are advertised at rs cosworth breakers in Hampshire , are these guys ok ?
i have the 205 block and was after the better 200 unit and latter model head, these guys seems to do complete rebuilds that sound good? Plus an extra engine would be good, what place in Italia sells engines ?
thanks for your replies guys, were a bit limited to cosworth gear over here!
Gary at RS Cosworth breakers has been around for a long time and has sold quite a few engines.I have bought parts from him as he is not all that far from where I live.As someone else has said I would have thought there would be someone in Australia that could re-build your Cosworth engine? On top of the shipping cost if you find a suitable engine in the UK you would probably also have to pay import duty.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 12:00 AM
  #12  
stevieturbo's Avatar
stevieturbo
C**t
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,998
Likes: 269
From: Norn Iron
Default

Trust a breakers ?

with an engine ? Not a fucking chance, especially at those prices !!

I cannot believe that there isnt anything a good machine shop in Oz couldnt do to restore your own engine to good health.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 12:11 PM
  #13  
cossie2's Avatar
cossie2
Regular Contributor
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 304
Likes: 33
From: Croatia
Default

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Trust a breakers ?

with an engine ? Not a fucking chance, especially at those prices !!

I cannot believe that there isnt anything a good machine shop in Oz couldnt do to restore your own engine to good health.
very true...specially with the one mentioned before ..........
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 02:42 PM
  #14  
Bart's Avatar
Bart
PassionFord Regular
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 426
Likes: 12
From: Belgium
Default

I have a nice speced engine for sale. PM if interested.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 03:03 PM
  #15  
Adam-M's Avatar
Adam-M
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,120
Likes: 316
From: Scotland
Default

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Trust a breakers ?

with an engine ? Not a fucking chance, especially at those prices !!

I cannot believe that there isnt anything a good machine shop in Oz couldnt do to restore your own engine to good health.
was my thoughts too lol
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 04:00 PM
  #16  
bigdel's Avatar
bigdel
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,294
Likes: 103
From: Crowthorne, Berkshire
Default

as above. you can order any specialist bits on line and get them delivered if the engine builder cannot source them in Aus

I's stick with the engine you know and get it professionally rebuilt, you'll get a much better result for not much more money
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 04:29 PM
  #17  
stevieturbo's Avatar
stevieturbo
C**t
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,998
Likes: 269
From: Norn Iron
Default

Why not contact Mark, SCS, Oppliger or any of the trusted builders to see what they can source for you and send out, if buying an engine from abroad really is the last resort ?

At least that way you're buying from a known trusted source.

But breakers break cars....I don't think I've ever seen any who actually re-condition engines. Many might claim to sell recon engines, but often it's more like a "recon" engine pulled from a car, power washed and some paint thrown over it without actually doing any engine work at all.
There are countless threads on forums of such vendors offering supply/fit, warranties etc etc and many many turn into a total nightmare with them supplying dodgy engines.

Of course every single one will not be like that, but there is huge risk involved....and that's just buying locally ! From Oz where you'd really have no backup or guarantees....not a chance would I take that risk.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2018 | 05:52 PM
  #18  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

As above sound advice.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2018 | 12:23 AM
  #19  
1986rs's Avatar
1986rs
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: sydney
Default Reco engine

ok guys thanks for the input, I was just looking at options, as cosworth engines here are starting to get a bit scarce, just be nice to have an extra, a bloke on here has said he has one for sale so might look into that too. Thanks
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2018 | 09:18 AM
  #20  
stevieturbo's Avatar
stevieturbo
C**t
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,998
Likes: 269
From: Norn Iron
Default

What exactly is wrong with yours that you feel it is scrap ?
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2018 | 04:27 PM
  #21  
bigdel's Avatar
bigdel
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,294
Likes: 103
From: Crowthorne, Berkshire
Default

My original engine sat in a corner of the garage for 19 years seized solid before I got round to having it rebuilt.

#3 piston had to be beaten out with a hammer as it was seized so badly.

It's as right as rain now, so just goes to show there's no need to give up on it just cos it's getting a bit tired
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2018 | 10:12 AM
  #22  
1986rs's Avatar
1986rs
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: sydney
Default Reco engine

thanks guys , it great to hear all your feedback, my main reason for hunting down a second engine was manly to have a good strong well spected engine with good HP and keep the original engine standard.just been missing out on engines here because they sell fast , and was looking at different options .
On another matter I have a strange number stamped on my block , I was told when I purchased the car the engine had been cooked and the block and head were replaced, on the raised rectangle below the turbo is a number CLBNHC and looks like 45. I5 or something, looks like it's been stamped by a child .[img]webkit-fake-url://20d1d353-1ead-4cfd-ad3a-0add2b9acc48/imagejpeg[/img]
any ideas, there are no numbers on the front of the block under the thermostat. ??
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2018 | 06:37 PM
  #23  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

Cannot see pic. Use the image icon to the left of smiley face.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2018 | 06:40 PM
  #24  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default


Reply
Old Aug 3, 2018 | 10:29 PM
  #25  
1986rs's Avatar
1986rs
Thread Starter
15000
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
From: sydney
Default Engine number ?

See attached photo of stamped number on block ??? What does this mean, is it a real engine number?
Not sure if the picture has come through
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 12:48 AM
  #26  
stevieturbo's Avatar
stevieturbo
C**t
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,998
Likes: 269
From: Norn Iron
Default

Certainly doesnt look like anything that would be stamped at the factory, unless they've been drinking lots of vodka that day
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 05:47 AM
  #27  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

Don't look like factory to me either.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 05:48 AM
  #28  
costina's Avatar
costina
Live long and prosper!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 9,158
Likes: 373
From: area 51
Default

I am trying to work out if that's a later head on it.

All I can say it has the wrong exhaust manifold nuts on it. They have aero nuts as std.

Last edited by costina; Aug 4, 2018 at 06:03 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2018 | 07:17 AM
  #29  
bigdel's Avatar
bigdel
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,294
Likes: 103
From: Crowthorne, Berkshire
Default

Here's a couple of pics to compare against from mine. The block looks like it could be genuine just by looking at the moulding above the flat space for the engine number, but that certainly ain't a genuine engine number. The second one's a shot of the stamping on the head

Reply
Old Aug 13, 2018 | 10:58 AM
  #30  
R4N SS's Avatar
R4N SS
Professional Waffler
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 27,161
Likes: 147
From: ?
Default

Originally Posted by 1986rs


yes engines are advertised at rs cosworth breakers in Hampshire , are these guys ok ?
i have the 205 block and was after the better 200 unit and latter model head, these guys seems to do complete rebuilds that sound good? Plus an extra engine would be good, what place in Italia sells engines ?
thanks for your replies guys, were a bit limited to cosworth gear over here!
Thats Gary from RS Breakers - very good bloke
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
DHMC
General Car Related Discussion.
8
Feb 16, 2010 12:46 PM
Rippers
General Car Related Discussion.
1
Mar 13, 2008 07:26 AM
JAP CRAP
General Car Related Discussion.
6
May 1, 2007 03:04 PM
CraigN
General Car Related Discussion.
6
Jul 20, 2005 04:44 PM
TIFF
General Car Related Discussion.
22
Jan 23, 2005 08:40 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 03:24 AM.