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Old 30-07-2018, 10:36 AM
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Hello guys.
im looking at buying an engine for my 3 door, The engine in it is getting a bit sad and I'm in Aussy so there is not a lot to choose from here. Any way I see there are breakers selling reconditioned engines has anyone bought one or know if there a good build etc , they seem to go for 6000 - 9000 depending on spec ?
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Probably better contacting one of the cossie specialists and see what options they give you, I’d not want to pay 9k for an engine that’s came from a breakers imo
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RS breakers in Southampton?

would it not be cheaper to ship your engine to a specialist in the UK for a rebuild. Some can also run it in on a engine dyno ready for a drop in.
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Originally Posted by costina
RS breakers in Southampton?

would it not be cheaper to ship your engine to a specialist in the UK for a rebuild. Some can also run it in on a engine dyno ready for a drop in.
From Sydney? I bet that'd cost a few thousand AUD for return shipping
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From Sydney? I bet that'd cost a few thousand AUD for return shipping
Yes the shipping cost would be great but wouldn't that be better than paying 9k for a unknown engine.?

Would it be cheaper to but a engine from Italy and there was a specialist selling low miles 4x4 green top engines.
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
Probably better contacting one of the cossie specialists and see what options they give you, I’d not want to pay 9k for an engine that’s came from a breakers imo
The well known Cosworth breakers do quite often have good engines for sale with a comprehensive list of what has been done to them.Different situation from buying something from a general car breaker who may have got his hands on a RS Cosworth and would have an engine for sale with no knowledge of what its like.
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RS breakers in Southampton?

would it not be cheaper to ship your engine to a specialist in the UK for a rebuild. Some can also run it in on a engine dyno ready for a drop in.
yes engines are advertised at rs cosworth breakers in Hampshire , are these guys ok ?
i have the 205 block and was after the better 200 unit and latter model head, these guys seems to do complete rebuilds that sound good? Plus an extra engine would be good, what place in Italia sells engines ?
thanks for your replies guys, were a bit limited to cosworth gear over here!
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Oppliger motorsport had some engines for sale.

If he still has some I don't know.

Never had any dealing with the RS breakers so cannot comment.
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Whilst I’m sure that RS breakers or Oppliger would supply you with a decent unit it’s going to cost you a lot of money to get an engine shipped to Aus, with the added worry of it getting to you undamaged, there is a Cosworth and RS following over in Aus, is there no specialists over there who could rebuild your engine for you?
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had very bad experience with one of the breakers...better to contact Oppliger Motorsport as advised previously....
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Originally Posted by 1986rs


yes engines are advertised at rs cosworth breakers in Hampshire , are these guys ok ?
i have the 205 block and was after the better 200 unit and latter model head, these guys seems to do complete rebuilds that sound good? Plus an extra engine would be good, what place in Italia sells engines ?
thanks for your replies guys, were a bit limited to cosworth gear over here!
Gary at RS Cosworth breakers has been around for a long time and has sold quite a few engines.I have bought parts from him as he is not all that far from where I live.As someone else has said I would have thought there would be someone in Australia that could re-build your Cosworth engine? On top of the shipping cost if you find a suitable engine in the UK you would probably also have to pay import duty.
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Trust a breakers ?

with an engine ? Not a fucking chance, especially at those prices !!

I cannot believe that there isnt anything a good machine shop in Oz couldnt do to restore your own engine to good health.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Trust a breakers ?

with an engine ? Not a fucking chance, especially at those prices !!

I cannot believe that there isnt anything a good machine shop in Oz couldnt do to restore your own engine to good health.
very true...specially with the one mentioned before ..........
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I have a nice speced engine for sale. PM if interested.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Trust a breakers ?

with an engine ? Not a fucking chance, especially at those prices !!

I cannot believe that there isnt anything a good machine shop in Oz couldnt do to restore your own engine to good health.
was my thoughts too lol
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as above. you can order any specialist bits on line and get them delivered if the engine builder cannot source them in Aus

I's stick with the engine you know and get it professionally rebuilt, you'll get a much better result for not much more money
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Why not contact Mark, SCS, Oppliger or any of the trusted builders to see what they can source for you and send out, if buying an engine from abroad really is the last resort ?

At least that way you're buying from a known trusted source.

But breakers break cars....I don't think I've ever seen any who actually re-condition engines. Many might claim to sell recon engines, but often it's more like a "recon" engine pulled from a car, power washed and some paint thrown over it without actually doing any engine work at all.
There are countless threads on forums of such vendors offering supply/fit, warranties etc etc and many many turn into a total nightmare with them supplying dodgy engines.

Of course every single one will not be like that, but there is huge risk involved....and that's just buying locally ! From Oz where you'd really have no backup or guarantees....not a chance would I take that risk.
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As above sound advice.
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ok guys thanks for the input, I was just looking at options, as cosworth engines here are starting to get a bit scarce, just be nice to have an extra, a bloke on here has said he has one for sale so might look into that too. Thanks
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What exactly is wrong with yours that you feel it is scrap ?
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My original engine sat in a corner of the garage for 19 years seized solid before I got round to having it rebuilt.

#3 piston had to be beaten out with a hammer as it was seized so badly.

It's as right as rain now, so just goes to show there's no need to give up on it just cos it's getting a bit tired
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thanks guys , it great to hear all your feedback, my main reason for hunting down a second engine was manly to have a good strong well spected engine with good HP and keep the original engine standard.just been missing out on engines here because they sell fast , and was looking at different options .
On another matter I have a strange number stamped on my block , I was told when I purchased the car the engine had been cooked and the block and head were replaced, on the raised rectangle below the turbo is a number CLBNHC and looks like 45. I5 or something, looks like it's been stamped by a child .[img]webkit-fake-url://20d1d353-1ead-4cfd-ad3a-0add2b9acc48/imagejpeg[/img]
any ideas, there are no numbers on the front of the block under the thermostat. ??
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Cannot see pic. Use the image icon to the left of smiley face.
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See attached photo of stamped number on block ??? What does this mean, is it a real engine number?
Not sure if the picture has come through
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Certainly doesnt look like anything that would be stamped at the factory, unless they've been drinking lots of vodka that day
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Don't look like factory to me either.
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I am trying to work out if that's a later head on it.

All I can say it has the wrong exhaust manifold nuts on it. They have aero nuts as std.

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Here's a couple of pics to compare against from mine. The block looks like it could be genuine just by looking at the moulding above the flat space for the engine number, but that certainly ain't a genuine engine number. The second one's a shot of the stamping on the head

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Originally Posted by 1986rs


yes engines are advertised at rs cosworth breakers in Hampshire , are these guys ok ?
i have the 205 block and was after the better 200 unit and latter model head, these guys seems to do complete rebuilds that sound good? Plus an extra engine would be good, what place in Italia sells engines ?
thanks for your replies guys, were a bit limited to cosworth gear over here!
Thats Gary from RS Breakers - very good bloke
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