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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 10:21 PM
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What spark plugs are people using when converted Cosworth to COP running 400-500bhp? Also what gap you have been using as well.
I've been getting some missing.
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 10:56 PM
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What spark plugs are people using when converted Cosworth to COP running 400-500bhp? Also what gap you have been using as well.
I've been getting some missing.
Thanks
IK27 with 0.7mm gap driven by toyota yaris coils never missed at all on my car at 35+psi.

ive not actually tried openeing them up from 0.7mm and it may also be the case that other coil types may be incapable of firing 0.7mm gap or can fire larger gap
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Old Jul 6, 2018 | 11:28 PM
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IK27 with 0.7mm gap driven by toyota yaris coils never missed at all on my car at 35+psi.

ive not actually tried openeing them up from 0.7mm and it may also be the case that other coil types may be incapable of firing 0.7mm gap or can fire larger gap
I think thats what my last saph had in it, mapped by msd to 2.2 bar on a T4, 472 hp no ignition issues
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 07:35 AM
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Mine is same as 20/20
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 10:30 AM
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Thanks guys, I'll try as set of those.
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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incidentally, for anyone considering going COPs, the yaris COPs are easy to fit and a no brainer if you value performance above originality and have aftermarket ecu

there are several yaris / toyota coil types which look essentially the same but with slightly different lengths / fittings and i found the easiest to be those with part number ending in 19021 or 02240. however, ive heard that other toyota coils which are longer do not require machining the cam cover turrets. Toyota yaris coils have built in ignitors so will work with any aftermarket ecu.

1) machine the plug turrets in the cam cover down to 3mm from the original 20ish mm.

2) fit the cam cover temporarily on the head, sit the COP in onto the plug top and mark the cover centrally where the COP's 7mm mounting hole is - a tiny bit of filing of the plastic on the COP body is required

3) remove COP and drill a 6mm hole in the cover and insert an m6 bolt from 'inside' the cover with a flanged m6 nut on the outside. use locktight.

4) there is a spring inside the lower region of the COP which connects the HT from the COP to the plug. remove the COP lower boot and stretch this spring 10mm then refit. this way the machined heights of the turrets and the thickness of the flange nut is irrelevant because the stretched spring will compress to accomodate variations and still make contact.

5) fit COP in again onto protruding bolt sitting it onto the flange of the nut then put a washer and nyloc on the top

job done!

connectors available from brands hatch on ebay and dwell is 3ms @ 13.8v (others may use different)
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I have a black cam cover that has had the turrets done for the Yaris plugs that is spare
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I'm running the other option that many go for, civic type-r coils
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Old Jul 7, 2018 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
I'm running the other option that many go for, civic type-r coils
Do you have to wait for the vtec to kick in lol
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 07:46 PM
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I run Yaris coils

Machine turrets down, flip rubber washer on coil upside down and bolt coil down using original Cosworth m6 bolt hole

Didn’t have to drill or tap andything and didn’t need to stretch the coil spring to reach the plug

Job done





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Mark that is a seriously impressive car
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I think the Honda coils are a fairly simple fit too ?

And always use genuine OEM coils...aftermarket are usually rubbish
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There are little fitting brackets available from BHP.
I wanted mine in line so drilled and tapped cover, and made a small post to support.


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That’s a lovely looking engine bay
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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 09:48 PM
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Denso coils, no machining, no drilling, no tapping of anything.
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
Denso coils, no machining, no drilling, no tapping of anything.
most of them are denso - which particular denso coils are your referring to?
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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The civic typeR are Denso.
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 08:29 PM
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I think it's the K series ?

099700-0430
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Old Jul 22, 2018 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ridgey
The civic typeR are Denso.
Can never remember the number but they are from a type R civic.
Had them on for maybe 5\6 years now. No bother.
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Yep. Same ones by the looks of it.
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