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Old 22-11-2007, 08:09 PM
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I think they are 6.5x16 with 205/45/16 rubber offset he said where std RS Turbo

arch's have been modified on the Orion

Also a pic of the Pace oil tank and catcher tank

Old 22-11-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Knoxville
I think they are 6.5x16 with 205/45/16 rubber offset he said where std RS Turbo
Really?! I would have guessed at 7.5" wide...... as they do look pretty chunky, and even 7" wide rims fit ok usually.

Look damn smart whatever they are though
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Old 23-11-2007, 04:57 PM
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its cool isn't it
Old 23-11-2007, 05:03 PM
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that bay looks the bollocks mate
Old 23-11-2007, 05:12 PM
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I wish it was mine
Old 24-11-2007, 03:07 PM
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A small update that i nabbed off another site





Not the best pics as its on a 2 megapixal camera phone
Old 25-11-2007, 03:45 PM
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Old 27-11-2007, 05:02 PM
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Old 27-11-2007, 07:42 PM
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How cool is that!!!

We need a video. That must sound mint
Old 10-04-2008, 06:30 PM
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Andrew has swapped his 90mm trumpets for some 120mm ones to gain as much torque as he can, got to make some new brackets for the second bank of injectors now he said





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Just a few modifications,

Now with the 120mm long trumpets








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Engine will be up for same after mag features so i've been told now?
Old 11-05-2008, 06:45 PM
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very nice , should sound great on full chat
like the idea of the second set of injectors at the top of the trumpets
Old 11-05-2008, 07:53 PM
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looking great! sumps all done then>? not long now!
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Yes sump it fitted and as far as i know it works

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Originally Posted by biscuittin
very nice , should sound great on full chat
like the idea of the second set of injectors at the top of the trumpets
He will post video when done
Old 23-06-2008, 09:09 PM
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car is going in for a new custom exhaust as he's had one and it sounded dreadful
Old 23-06-2008, 10:21 PM
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Engine bay looks nice. good work!
Old 23-06-2008, 10:36 PM
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one nice motor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Old 23-06-2008, 10:45 PM
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fuck me
Old 24-06-2008, 11:28 AM
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That's is amazing, what an original project as well Great stuff!!
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all up and dirving then?
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Originally Posted by Ryan
all up and dirving then?
Runs like a bag of shite as it needs a real good mapping
Old 24-06-2008, 05:20 PM
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ahh ok, least its running though, thats 90% there.
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Wholey SHIT.... top Job.. deffo a good project! some work gone into that.
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Copied and pasted from another site

He justs need to get it booked in for mapping now and do a few tweeks







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Looks a tidy motor and well thought out, coil on plug looks good

I'd look into some type of airbox or cold air feed as the hot air will give problems when on the road, inlet temps will be 50 deg plus which will zap power IMO

Also worth doing some testing with the trumpet length,we found the longer runner length lost power top end at high rpm

Reducing trumpet length made over 20bhp difference, (increase)

That engine made 280 bhp on a nasp st170 with similar scpec to yours

Looks good, pleased to see someone thinking outside the box for a change
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Originally Posted by AustenW
Looks a tidy motor and well thought out, coil on plug looks good

I'd look into some type of airbox or cold air feed as the hot air will give problems when on the road, inlet temps will be 50 deg plus which will zap power IMO

Also worth doing some testing with the trumpet length,we found the longer runner length lost power top end at high rpm

Reducing trumpet length made over 20bhp difference, (increase)

That engine made 280 bhp on a nasp st170 with similar scpec to yours

Looks good, pleased to see someone thinking outside the box for a change
He is running 120mm one and has some 90mm also, what size did the st170 have

It has a cold air feed, see the big pipe next to the battery?
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The trumpets we tried were quite long, ex cosworth development apparently over 250mm in length

Try both sizes you have and see if there is a difference and let me know

What diameter bodies you using?

I'm building nasp ST225 5 cyl engine at the moment on jenvy bodies, using 48mm butterflies and 10 inch inlet lengths as the thing is designed to rev to 9500rpm, will try different lengths on the dymo to see what works best.
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I agree, an enclosed airbox will make a noticeable difference. Take a look at any works car (btcc etc) - they always run a box. Nice work!
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He said the bodies are 48mm witch are 118mm long and then the 120mm long trumpets.

He said its quite hard to make a enclose box because of the second bank of injectors
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He'd get more of a benefit running an airbox than 8 injectors
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I'm sure he will be on it
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
He'd get more of a benefit running an airbox than 8 injectors
I really don't think so?
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Better to think than to test, eh.
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So how much bhp could gain from a air box then?

He has seen 15 bhp from a N/A Zetec after fitting 8 injectors
Old 25-10-2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
He'd get more of a benefit running an airbox than 8 injectors
How about both lol He has take yours and Austins advice and done just that. He admits its no the best air box but for the lack of space in the engine bay it should be ok?



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Looks a good effort.. try it and see!
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I'm sure he will

On a sad note Andrew said that the car will be broken some time next year, He can not justify spending any more money on it now.

It will still be finished and featured in some magazines but broken after

Dyno print outs will be posted and 1/4mile time too if done


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