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Old 03-12-2011 | 01:04 PM
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Default big powered cosworth YB,

who has what BHP and what spec?
sorry if its a repost but intresting to see who is running high BHP and torque and what set up they use and how it performs?
engine, box, diffs etc?
Old 03-12-2011 | 01:27 PM
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depends on what you mean by big power

330hp is big to some
500hp is small to others

what do you consider to be big power?
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Over 400?
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Over 400?
Mine is

Light head porting, AB07 inlet cam, standard exhaust cam, Turbo Technics T38 Turbo, small turbo escort cosworth inlet manifold + throttle body, 7.8.1 comp, 2wd exhaust manifold, Spec-R bar and plate intercooler, 83lb injectors, L8 ECU and live mapped by Turbosystems.

The car is also fitted with 330mm front brakes, 300mm rear brakes, rebuilt T5 gearbox, Alcon 6 paddle clutch, Gripper Diff, Koni's all round, polybushed etc




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Most powerful on here is probably Rod's Saph, but there's loads that vary from 380bhp up to 800+. Depends how deep your pockets are
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what do you have to do to the block for over 600?
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A lot

Basics that come to mind are starting with a good 200 block, Nikasil liners etc.
Old 03-12-2011 | 02:25 PM
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so are Rod, martin, and A.G focus still 2.0l
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Iv got 2 550hp scs engines
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
Iv got 2 550hp scs engines
What spec?
Old 03-12-2011 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trist
What spec?

Cadburys!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Trist
so are Rod, martin, and A.G focus still 2.0l
Mine is 2150cc :
Engine Specification
2150cc 16V : Nikasil linered block : 8.5 : 1 CP pistons : Arrow con-rods : Arrow crank
Double length head studs:Baffled sump :custom Head gasket :High pressure oil pump
Gas flowed and ported head : M.A.Development custom cams : RS500 Throttle body
Automotive fuel pump : 15v accuvolt : Tial External wastegate : GTX4202 Turbo
Spec-R Intercooler : M.A.Development Breather System : 3.5" Stainless Exhaust
Water Injection : Primary Design manifold : Oil-Cooler : Pace Dry Sump system
Nitrous
Highpower 200bhp Direct-port system : Nitrogen 'push' system : Powermax controller
Transmission
Tremec TKO 600 : PRO 5.0 Quick Shift : Hydraulic triple plate clutch
Differential
Jaguar 10.5" Power Loc Diff : 3.54 cwp
Brakes/Wheels
330mm discs/6pot calipers - Front : 300mm discs /4x4 calipers - Rear : Up-rated Pads
17" Speedline Corse fitted 205/40/17 Toyo 888 - Front
18" Speedline Corse fitted 235/40/18 Toyo 888 - Rear
Suspension
Leda/BAD modified height/rate adjustable coilovers - Front/Rear : Zoo Motorsport rear beam kit
Connector Rails : Custom prop-shaft : Custom drive-Shafts : Anti-dip springs on rear


You ask how it performs - goes well
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Jesus Rod! I knew it was powerful but didn't realise it was on a GTX42!! fair play!! Where does it spool?
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Mine is 2150cc :
Engine Specification
2150cc 16V : Nikasil linered block : 8.5 : 1 CP pistons : Arrow con-rods : Arrow crank
Double length head studs:Baffled sump :custom Head gasket :High pressure oil pump
Gas flowed and ported head : M.A.Development custom cams : RS500 Throttle body
Automotive fuel pump : 15v accuvolt : Tial External wastegate : GTX4202 Turbo
Spec-R Intercooler : M.A.Development Breather System : 3.5" Stainless Exhaust
Water Injection : Primary Design manifold : Oil-Cooler : Pace Dry Sump system
Nitrous
Highpower 200bhp Direct-port system : Nitrogen 'push' system : Powermax controller
Transmission
Tremec TKO 600 : PRO 5.0 Quick Shift : Hydraulic triple plate clutch
Differential
Jaguar 10.5" Power Loc Diff : 3.54 cwp
Brakes/Wheels
330mm discs/6pot calipers - Front : 300mm discs /4x4 calipers - Rear : Up-rated Pads
17" Speedline Corse fitted 205/40/17 Toyo 888 - Front
18" Speedline Corse fitted 235/40/18 Toyo 888 - Rear
Suspension
Leda/BAD modified height/rate adjustable coilovers - Front/Rear : Zoo Motorsport rear beam kit
Connector Rails : Custom prop-shaft : Custom drive-Shafts : Anti-dip springs on rear


You ask how it performs - goes well

First time i've seen a break down on your Spec Rodders, very nice indeed bud..

It works pretty well too...
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Originally Posted by bigchez
Jesus Rod! I knew it was powerful but didn't realise it was on a GTX42!! fair play!! Where does it spool?
The graph gives some indication of spool its of course a big compromise for road use but this car was built for a purpose.
This was on a GT42 so we have more Power at the topend now on the GTX4202, we guess at 860 ish but its enough anyway.




The GTX42 on the car a tight fit


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Old 04-12-2011 | 10:57 AM
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Jesus christ Rod! What that without the gas? I'm guessing yes.
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interesting post im ive currently got a standard 200 block yb an am looking for 450-500 any suggestions?
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Looking at rod's graph, i'd love to have a drive of that, just after 4k, hell breaks loose!
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Havnt had mine dyno'd but ive got

7.3:1
Big port head ( 26.5mm in, 24mm out )
BD16 inlet cam
RS500 T4
83lbs injectors
port matched manifolds
EEC4 inlet

should be 450ish
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Originally Posted by 12_Second_rst
interesting post im ive currently got a standard 200 block yb an am looking for 450-500 any suggestions?
standard block
you may want to machine the block for long studs
standard comp
worked head if funds allow
Siemens 83's injectors
standard bottom end but machine the pistons for valve pockets
change the inlet cam for a bd14
decent inlet, you might get away with a 4x4 with spacer, if not hart or similar
choice of turbos IMO, t38, or gt3071, or whatever your tuner decides is best.
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
standard block
you may want to machine the block for long studs
standard comp
worked head if funds allow
Siemens 83's injectors
standard bottom end but machine the pistons for valve pockets
change the inlet cam for a bd14
decent inlet, you might get away with a 4x4 with spacer, if not hart or similar
choice of turbos IMO, t38, or gt3071, or whatever your tuner decides is best.
BD15 is a better inlet cam,

Steve
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Not an AB07 Steve?
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
BD15 is a better inlet cam,

Steve
Marks inlet cam is a better inlet cam
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Originally Posted by gjh
Jesus christ Rod! What that without the gas? I'm guessing yes.
Yes !!
The gas potential is 200 jets 'pushed' with Nitrogen, the experts tell me at 2.9bar thats around 300bhp. We cant risk all of that but engine with ignition taken out & a tad less boost with 100 jets should see around 920bhp its what we will risk down Brunters. Its either 215mph or a big bang .
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Originally Posted by gjh
Not an AB07 Steve?
As far as im aware the AB07 is the best cam to use if you DO NOT have valve cutouts.

Steve
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Marks inlet cam is a better inlet cam
I only said it was a better cam than a BD14.

Depends on what spec you have, but with the spec that was put up thats the cam i would use.

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Originally Posted by MadRod
Yes !!
The gas potential is 200 jets 'pushed' with Nitrogen, the experts tell me at 2.9bar thats around 300bhp. We cant risk all of that but engine with ignition taken out & a tad less boost with 100 jets should see around 920bhp its what we will risk down Brunters. Its either 215mph or a big bang .

Awsome! Your car is insane!
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When is the next top speed run Rod?
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Originally Posted by Trist
When is the next top speed run Rod?
No idea whatsoever . It looks like a Vmax event during 2012 is the best bet.
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whats the cost involved with Nikasil liner's im not planning on doing this or anything but just curious if you had a 200 block on it's last bore
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Who makes the abo7 cam? Where can I get one and how much? Cheers
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
I only said it was a better cam than a BD14.

Depends on what spec you have, but with the spec that was put up thats the cam i would use.

Steve
I'd use Marks for the quoted spec
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I have just built the following for my MKII Escort..........I'm after 350 what do you think ?

RS500 Block - 6 x Long Studs
RS500 Standard Head
Cams - BD14 Inlet & Standard Ex
55lb Seimens (only running x4)
Arrows Crank & H-Section Rods
Cosworth Pistons 8:1 Comp (Valve Cuts)
T34 63
ProAlloy Intercooler

Am I on the right track..........and what degrees do you time your cams ?

Inlet 114 & Ex 110 ?

Many thanks
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Originally Posted by Hoogi
I have just built the following for my MKII Escort..........I'm after 350 what do you think ?

RS500 Block - 6 x Long Studs
RS500 Standard Head
Cams - BD14 Inlet & Standard Ex
55lb Seimens (only running x4)
Arrows Crank & H-Section Rods
Cosworth Pistons 8:1 Comp (Valve Cuts)
T34 63
ProAlloy Intercooler

Am I on the right track..........and what degrees do you time your cams ?

Inlet 114 & Ex 110 ?

Many thanks
You have way over specced your engine for the amount of power you are looking at, for that you don't need to do anything to the internals, it's usually a larger turbo (T34) your injectors and a 3 BAR MAP sensor, in other words your looking at stage 3, the intercooler would be a good idea though.

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Thanks Martin............yes, Engine already built and ready to be dropped in - just waiting to buy a new 6 paddle AP Clutch. So everything mentioned is already a goer !!!

I have tried to over engineer everything to gain some reliability.........as I also plan to do some Track Days etc.

The idea behind the Internals was just in case I decided to chase some bigger power in the future.

So, 350 looks realistic so far ?
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Originally Posted by Hoogi
Thanks Martin............yes, Engine already built and ready to be dropped in - just waiting to buy a new 6 paddle AP Clutch. So everything mentioned is already a goer !!!

I have tried to over engineer everything to gain some reliability.........as I also plan to do some Track Days etc.

The idea behind the Internals was just in case I decided to chase some bigger power in the future.

So, 350 looks realistic so far ?
that will piss 350, more like 400 depending on what psi you run
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Think the only thing that would hold back that spec is the T34 .... But sure if you get it mapped and dont mind running a good amount of boost it will run 400+bhp as had 412bhp from one but was built as a round town toy
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What sort of P.S.I. do I need to run............????

That's one part I'm unsure about - any advise would be great.

Guessing I need to run the thing in first - do you do this on a lower boost and then increase once this process is complete ????
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I dont know what power mine is now but it feels bloody quick.Its quicker than it was beforw it got maooed.
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Just looked at Rods graph.Thats insane power after 4k revs.



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