Rollinz

not revving mine that high, no need to, making the power nice where it is lol

looking at your sig.. are you now on a GT30?? and still runing an actuator?

Dicko&Vacant

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yeah mate its not a full on gt30 its my old gt29 from aet converted to gt3076 spec by cr turbo's

Rollinz

can you sell that turbo on? and get yourself a propper GT30 with no wastegate? and then run an external one.??

this will help greatly in boost control and delivery,

Dicko&Vacant

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then id need to get new downpipe etc new manifold then it just spirals out of control money wise

ill be happy enough once it sorted and running 2.0bar all the way with this turbo. should still do near 500hp anyway

hogdog

Great stuff <pat on the back>.

nevsrevs

Lots of talk of pump failings seems to be a bit of every thing, nose flex on the crank to many revs,? Or just luck!

clarke5700

ive seen a black top oil pump fail with a 6900 rev limiter and only pulled to 330hp on the dyno befor the oil presure gauge started flashing very luckly tho he got it just in time only needed a clean out and a new oil pump even the shells showed no sign of damage

he was running an underdrive pully kit that was put down to the problem. after rebuild/fitting standard pully it ran fine up to 430hp with a 7200 rev limit

Big Ad

That would have made a good head to head with mine

Rollinz

Whats your spec bigad??

Mine in bits again at the min, just ordered a billet pump as i want to rev it to 8k now,
And when we uped the boost, we got to 1.7 bar-586bhp/520lbs and we were getting really bad valve float so having it modded by ian howel now to use double valve spring, then take it up to 2-2.5 bar and rev it out to 8k and see what happens

R4N SS

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wow - this is going to be a monster

XRT_si

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Very cool car that!

Oil pump issues will always been a concern, the only pattern seems to be high revs with big boost eats oil pumps (including billet gears!), though Blacktops seem a lot better than Silvertops.

Rollinz

Its always going to be a worry yes, but i run an inline turbo filter, so if it does go lets just hope its a case off a good clean and new bearings and new pump then at least its not going to be that expensive hopfully it obviously is a blacktop based oil pump so just cross fingers,

After speakng to ian howel he said the ones hes known to break up have always been one where they havnt balanced the bottom end or changed pullys..

Just have to wait and see,
Also tempted to fit a accusump... But! Dont want the engine pump to fail and just be relying on the accusump while unknowing, if that makes sense?

macdoodle

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This is one mad focus Keep up the good work & keep the update's coming

XRT_si

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My mapper was planning on wiring the oil pressure switch to cut the ECU when the pressure drops.

COCHYN

Do you not know who Big Ad is???
Its a shame what happened to him and his car a while back or he'd be well on the front of top powered Focus'

Rollinz

thats a good idea!!
i run a blitz id3 boost controler, i could wire somthing into that so that it would CUT BOOST if pressure failed

no i dont mate, dont sound good whatever happened
it says he is from doncaster, only silver focus i can remember use to be around bolton/goldthorpe area (rotherham near donny), and it use to boogie!! at the time i had a s2 zetec turbo,

Crowder

Is that the one that crashed On a top speed run a few years back?

clarke5700

cant wate to see ya start that

Rollinz

lol, i know what your thinking... but think about it a bit more and it wont start untill the oil pressure is up.. which is also a good thing..

xr2wishy

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it wouldn't take long for that to build up pressure really.
along those lines, best to fit a relay to cut out the power to ecu if pressure is too low. have an override from ignition feed so when you're cranking it powers the relay, until you let off the starter and the feed would come through the pressure switch to relay.
easy to make something like that work.

clarke5700

some oil pumps are lazy so would be cranking for a wile befor it starts lol. my kms ecu has an oil presure input so i can set parameters

like any think over 800rpm and under 12psi presure will cut coil ect

i can also run a cool display like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpXp2657kYM

Big Ad

have a look on Ians Website mine is still on there.

Ian built mine, but I had an accident in it at 170+mph and broke my back

Im near you, so give me a shout if you want a pint and a chat one day

My engine still lives and is sat in Ian's garage, It will give you a run for your money when its finished and back in a car lol

The reg of the car its going in is T800 BHP

Rollinz

My dta has oil pressure input too and i also have a stack dash, but ratyer than cut the coil and loose all power, i think id sooner let the blitz just cut all boost so if im "on it" and suddenly loose boost i know about it,
Also this would be good incase of any oil surge,
I also have a boost cut set in my blitz if my water temps exceed 108 degs (i run a 72 deg stat on mine now)

Rollinz

Is it your car mate? Or have you retired from all this now?

Glad your still alive after what happened!

I rekon i should pull maybe 620-650 somwhere in mine,
And maybe towards 700 when i use vp import

jonfoc

Now then pal coming round on the 7th will be fine and our billet pumps are on the way from the states.

clarke5700

i would rather my engine tern off in the case of an oil pump fail rather than be restricted of power tbh each to there own i gess

XRT_si

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Good point but I'll happy have it on a switch if it saves the engine, and mine is pretty much sure to blow

clarke5700

do what i have done oil presure gauge infrount of me lolol

XRT_si

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Not sure if I'd want just the boost to cut out, engine revs alone will kill an engine with no oil circulating!

I'd love to see a Zetec push that. I know of a 2.3 stroker crank, Nikisil linered, big spec GT35 turbo Zetec being built that's aiming for that kind of power.

Mine's in front of me and beeps and flashes when it drops. I still don't think that's enough!

External oil pump is next...or a Blacktop!

Rollinz

Im not qoting those figures lol, but it did make 401@12psi
545@1.5 bar
586@1.7 bar with valve float...
So carry on to 2.5 bar and add some vp import fuel so i can still get a bit of advance timing in on top end then...... Thats if the engine will hold 2.5 bar!

Knowing my luck the crank will drop straight thru the sump

RO13 rs cabriolet

Love it what monster top work fella

xr2wishy

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i have some spare inputs to ecu and could program one for that function, just need to calibrate a pressure sensor for it.
at least i have a blacktop to begin with, settles me a little.
some big figures around for power on here, i'd love to have something to handle it all.

Big Will_

Guess you don't want mine now then?

Timewaster.

Minirotty

Very impressive car and engine performance

clarke5700

Bump any news?

nevsrevs

intrested too

jonfoc

I saw the car the other day whilst up at the garage. The spec has been changed slightly, he's got a billet oil pump now, he bought my GGR ported head and has had some work done it it. There is a rumour of a turbo change too. I'm sure he will post soon on any updates. I will text him soon and get him to update.

clarke5700

Kooooool

Rollinz

little update,
as jon said, i bought his GGR head off him (well... bought when i pay him lol )
and sent to ian howel for double valve spring conversion,
still waiting for that to come back,

billet oil pump to go in it,
and sold my GT35 turbo in favour of a GTX30 turbo, and changing injectors for some injector dynamics 1200 cc

hopefully next dyno session will break 600

nevsrevs

looking forward to it being strapped down, fair play if you break the big 600