teamSPB Project D*FN U - 4 SMD 18's,SPL D 25kwrms,16v,Air ride, PC, Carsson rims!
#121
Mic on screen, drivers door open
20hz 146.4
21hz 147.6
22hz 148.5
23hz 149
24hz 149.5
25hz 149.9
26hz 150.2
27hz 150.4
28hz 150.8
29hz 151.3
30hz 151.6
31hz 151.7
32hz 151.9
33hz 150.9
34hz 150.8
36hz 151
38hz 151.3
40hz 151.3
45hz 150.6
A few days later ~30hz scores became;
28hz 151.4
29hz 151.9
30hz 152.7
31hz 153
32hz 152.8
33hz 152.8
34hz 151.6
Cant wait to test what its like now...should have gained a small bit here and there..howmuch though, I have no idea until we test again...
teamSPB
20hz 146.4
21hz 147.6
22hz 148.5
23hz 149
24hz 149.5
25hz 149.9
26hz 150.2
27hz 150.4
28hz 150.8
29hz 151.3
30hz 151.6
31hz 151.7
32hz 151.9
33hz 150.9
34hz 150.8
36hz 151
38hz 151.3
40hz 151.3
45hz 150.6
A few days later ~30hz scores became;
28hz 151.4
29hz 151.9
30hz 152.7
31hz 153
32hz 152.8
33hz 152.8
34hz 151.6
Cant wait to test what its like now...should have gained a small bit here and there..howmuch though, I have no idea until we test again...
teamSPB
#127
Been getting a few PM's about the car PC setup...basically its a mini ITX type PC complete with touch screen monitor, 4 internal USBs and an external USB hub with external power supply, GPS, 120gig hard drive, Centrafuse interface....bought off Steve off TA with the following spec
voom pc case
Via VB series board VB7001
centrafuse 2 installed
M2-ATX PSU car power supply
cooling fan
3x5m usb cables
soundcard
bluetooth dongle
gps reciever
vga cable
120gb hard drive
usb hub
memory stick with drivers and centrafuse 2
lilliput touchscreen , stripped down for custom fit into double din
Nifty little thing!
First thing was to modify the existing fascia panel to accept the touch screen (not got any photos of the standard fascia with the headunit in)
Primed and guide coat sprayed
Screen secured in
Heres the PC itself...just been sprayed
teamSPB
voom pc case
Via VB series board VB7001
centrafuse 2 installed
M2-ATX PSU car power supply
cooling fan
3x5m usb cables
soundcard
bluetooth dongle
gps reciever
vga cable
120gb hard drive
usb hub
memory stick with drivers and centrafuse 2
lilliput touchscreen , stripped down for custom fit into double din
Nifty little thing!
First thing was to modify the existing fascia panel to accept the touch screen (not got any photos of the standard fascia with the headunit in)
Primed and guide coat sprayed
Screen secured in
Heres the PC itself...just been sprayed
teamSPB
#128
Quick bit of TA browsing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3NIytrNC7g
Will get some more details up!
teamSPB
Last edited by bassboy; 07-09-2010 at 11:27 PM.
#131
#132
Unfortunately I havent had time to crack on with this yet...but hopefully will be able to get on with it next week in time for the final VW show of the season (even though it aint a VW LOL!)...and touch wood, we hit the final show with a LOUD goodbye for the winter...hoping to get the Previa, and Blade Ice's Chevy with the 12 18's playing side by side!
In the mean time, ill post up a link to another car we have been working on hoping to get ready for the show to! https://passionford.com/forum/music-...mics-amps.html
teamSPB
In the mean time, ill post up a link to another car we have been working on hoping to get ready for the show to! https://passionford.com/forum/music-...mics-amps.html
teamSPB
#133
Right not updated this for around a month now and there is a good reason behind that which I shall explain at a later date...
I havent really done much to the vehicle to be honest and I hope to press on with it next week.
The SPL Dynamics D5 I had in there has been sold (well deposit taken)...so this paves way for me to get the SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's. However, I have the small issue of the charging system to sort out first!
Some boring pics for those who are interested
10g speaker cable front to back - 4 runs per door
Knu Konceptz Krystal RCAs
Also got this handy little machine to print lables
Type in what you want
It prints it out
I can now keep track of what cables are for what! Quite handy when all the cables are braided LOL!
Ill get some more recent pics up soon of the cables neat and tidy
I havent really done much to the vehicle to be honest and I hope to press on with it next week.
The SPL Dynamics D5 I had in there has been sold (well deposit taken)...so this paves way for me to get the SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's. However, I have the small issue of the charging system to sort out first!
Some boring pics for those who are interested
10g speaker cable front to back - 4 runs per door
Knu Konceptz Krystal RCAs
Also got this handy little machine to print lables
Type in what you want
It prints it out
I can now keep track of what cables are for what! Quite handy when all the cables are braided LOL!
Ill get some more recent pics up soon of the cables neat and tidy
#134
Under the centre console got a seeing to as well
45meters....YES FOURTY FIVE meters of 1/0 Knu Konceptz Fleks cable!!!!
The idea behind the 0g, is basically 4 runs of 0g positive from front to back, and 2 maybe 3 runs of 0g negative front to back to! This is to keep up with the current supply of 3 maybe 4 210a alternators charging at 16-17v!
Ill get some pics of the alts up in a second...they are just repetitive to be honest as I was messing around with a friends SLR camera at the time so thought I would have a play!
45meters....YES FOURTY FIVE meters of 1/0 Knu Konceptz Fleks cable!!!!
The idea behind the 0g, is basically 4 runs of 0g positive from front to back, and 2 maybe 3 runs of 0g negative front to back to! This is to keep up with the current supply of 3 maybe 4 210a alternators charging at 16-17v!
Ill get some pics of the alts up in a second...they are just repetitive to be honest as I was messing around with a friends SLR camera at the time so thought I would have a play!
#135
Also for those electrically minded...you will probably notice that I have the main fuse holder, which is then connected to a smaller fuse holder beside it...its connected with 20a cable however will never pull that much current...
The smaller fuse box will only be running things like processer (epicenter), rear view camera, parking sensors, remote relay etc etc so should never even see more than approx 10a if that!
Back to the alts!
teamSPB
The smaller fuse box will only be running things like processer (epicenter), rear view camera, parking sensors, remote relay etc etc so should never even see more than approx 10a if that!
Back to the alts!
teamSPB
#136
Some video clips from yesterday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJmrpaiRDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Vy27qeSIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGX9WrVBfS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjJmrpaiRDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6Vy27qeSIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGX9WrVBfS0
#137
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWEiPEN1Uk
And one of Mana's Passat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAr1_IiUKD8
teamSPB
And one of Mana's Passat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAr1_IiUKD8
teamSPB
#146
The old 'people carrier' doesnt do too bad hey...especially for what is essentially 2000wrms in total!! Cant wait to get the full 25-30kwrms in there! God know what it will be like when that happens!!!
#148
Update guys.....Nothing to update LOL!!!
The car has been to 2 alt people and they either cant find the time or just dont seem interested to help...so my alts are STILL sat here gathering dust!
Im going to give it a go myself once I have a bit of spare time...so will definately keep you updated in the meantime...however, if anyone knows of anyone who will be willing to take on the job PLEASE let me know!
In all honesty I have just been enjoying the system for what it is at the moment...its actually TOO loud for 'Joe Bloggs' as a daily and TBH most of the time im just cruising around just cranking literally anything and everything...the system is TRUELY built to play EVERYTHING! Those who have been to our local cruises will know....Madonna, MJ, Marvin Gaye, Pussycat Dolls, and LOADS of the good old bhangra and OLD skool punjabi music!
Update on the batteries...apparently they have arrived in the UK so hopefully ill be getting those this coming week...
The SPL D5 has also been sold, awaiting the final payment for it then its time to start collecting my SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's....all 8 of them!
SO...whats left to do....
Get batteries
Get SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's
Install alts
Install amps
Install batteries
Make everything look pretty
Start breaking more things!
Went to Ace Cafe last night for the Jap Vs German night and took some photos that I thought I would show on here...
This is my everyday ride height!!!!!!
This is it on the lowest setting
The car has been to 2 alt people and they either cant find the time or just dont seem interested to help...so my alts are STILL sat here gathering dust!
Im going to give it a go myself once I have a bit of spare time...so will definately keep you updated in the meantime...however, if anyone knows of anyone who will be willing to take on the job PLEASE let me know!
In all honesty I have just been enjoying the system for what it is at the moment...its actually TOO loud for 'Joe Bloggs' as a daily and TBH most of the time im just cruising around just cranking literally anything and everything...the system is TRUELY built to play EVERYTHING! Those who have been to our local cruises will know....Madonna, MJ, Marvin Gaye, Pussycat Dolls, and LOADS of the good old bhangra and OLD skool punjabi music!
Update on the batteries...apparently they have arrived in the UK so hopefully ill be getting those this coming week...
The SPL D5 has also been sold, awaiting the final payment for it then its time to start collecting my SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's....all 8 of them!
SO...whats left to do....
Get batteries
Get SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's
Install alts
Install amps
Install batteries
Make everything look pretty
Start breaking more things!
Went to Ace Cafe last night for the Jap Vs German night and took some photos that I thought I would show on here...
This is my everyday ride height!!!!!!
This is it on the lowest setting
#152
Time for an update me thinks!
The power cable from alts to the rear batteries has been ran...in total, there are 4 runs of 0g Knu Konceptz Fleks positive, and 2 runs of 0g Knu Konceptz negative...This was run underneath the vehicle to keep things neater inside the cabing etc...besides, running 6 runs of 0g into the cabin wasnt going to be fun work!
The KK Fleks stuff is meant to be able to supply around 350a safely...so technically it should be OK for the power the alts will chuck out...if more runs need to be added, its not a problem in the slightest as we can keep adding them on the underside of the vehicle...
Luckily, due to it being a people carrier, there is TONS of room underneath the vehicle...the cable is pushed far up so things like the rear axle, petrol tank, sump, exhaust manifold will all hit the floor before the wiring is even within I would guess at 6inches to the floor!
This was the cabling from before - 45m of 0g!
Getting closer to the front 'engine' bay
Time to neaten things up!...Lots of cable ties at the ready!
The power cable from alts to the rear batteries has been ran...in total, there are 4 runs of 0g Knu Konceptz Fleks positive, and 2 runs of 0g Knu Konceptz negative...This was run underneath the vehicle to keep things neater inside the cabing etc...besides, running 6 runs of 0g into the cabin wasnt going to be fun work!
The KK Fleks stuff is meant to be able to supply around 350a safely...so technically it should be OK for the power the alts will chuck out...if more runs need to be added, its not a problem in the slightest as we can keep adding them on the underside of the vehicle...
Luckily, due to it being a people carrier, there is TONS of room underneath the vehicle...the cable is pushed far up so things like the rear axle, petrol tank, sump, exhaust manifold will all hit the floor before the wiring is even within I would guess at 6inches to the floor!
This was the cabling from before - 45m of 0g!
Getting closer to the front 'engine' bay
Time to neaten things up!...Lots of cable ties at the ready!
#153
These are some BIG heavy duty cable ties used to hold the 0g up against the chassis
You can see the wiring for the air compressors/relays etc just behind the 0g
Running alongside the petrol tank and into the underside guard
Hole made in the back of the vehicle to run 0g through
Excess cable as I dont know where abouts the batteries will be positioned yet
Cables running along side the brake lines
#154
PLENTY of space!! maybe I went a bit OTT on the size of the hole lol
And a rather funny problem for a people carrier to have when trying to take the jack out PMSL!!
Some people wanted to see my compressor etc and where it was mounted...well here ya go!!!
Huge shout goes to Rayvern for sorting that out for me!! We didnt know howmuch room we would be left with or had NO idea what was even being put into the vehicle when the air ride was installed, so Ray opted to put the airtanks, compressors, relayz etc on the underside so we could easily access it should we need to!
Thats another mission out the way!!!!
Next up is seeing whether or not the air ride will cope with another 250-300kgs worth of weight!!!!!
On another note...the D5 has been sold so from next week we should start seeing the arrival of a pair of SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's...ill be buying these a pair at a time when I can!
teamSPB
And a rather funny problem for a people carrier to have when trying to take the jack out PMSL!!
Some people wanted to see my compressor etc and where it was mounted...well here ya go!!!
Huge shout goes to Rayvern for sorting that out for me!! We didnt know howmuch room we would be left with or had NO idea what was even being put into the vehicle when the air ride was installed, so Ray opted to put the airtanks, compressors, relayz etc on the underside so we could easily access it should we need to!
Thats another mission out the way!!!!
Next up is seeing whether or not the air ride will cope with another 250-300kgs worth of weight!!!!!
On another note...the D5 has been sold so from next week we should start seeing the arrival of a pair of SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's...ill be buying these a pair at a time when I can!
teamSPB
#156
HAHAHA yeah its definately a talking point!!!
Its funny when you drive past people and they read the plate wondering what its all about...always sniggering to themselves thinking oo look it aint loud at all (when I have the system down lol)...then they hear me another time with their jaws on the floor PMSL!!!
The plate coupled with this sticker is pure win LOL!
bassboy
Its funny when you drive past people and they read the plate wondering what its all about...always sniggering to themselves thinking oo look it aint loud at all (when I have the system down lol)...then they hear me another time with their jaws on the floor PMSL!!!
The plate coupled with this sticker is pure win LOL!
bassboy
#157
Another update for you lovely people!
Today I managed to get some time together and go pick up 4 of my 8 bass amps!
The amps in question - SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's!
These will be strapped into pairs and each pair will run 1 sub...Each amp is rated at 3200wrms @ 0.5ohm....we will run each strapped pair at 1ohm so approx 6400wrms per sub at 14.4v. We have also been given the all clear that we can run these daily at 16.5v so I would expect somewhere between 7-8kwrms per driver daily when we have all 8 in!
For now however, we will run 1 amp per sub at 1ohm giving around 2.2kwrms per sub...however, with no decent power supply, dont expect anything major just yet! Dont forget this will only be run off 3 normal batteries for now until I can get the alts sorted and get the new XS Power D1400 batteries in my hands!
Some pics...majorly repetitive, however, I like taking photos, especially since getting the Sony NEX-5!!!
Power figures
1/0 guage inputs...each amp requires a 300amp fuse!
Today I managed to get some time together and go pick up 4 of my 8 bass amps!
The amps in question - SPL Dynamics ICE 3500d's!
These will be strapped into pairs and each pair will run 1 sub...Each amp is rated at 3200wrms @ 0.5ohm....we will run each strapped pair at 1ohm so approx 6400wrms per sub at 14.4v. We have also been given the all clear that we can run these daily at 16.5v so I would expect somewhere between 7-8kwrms per driver daily when we have all 8 in!
For now however, we will run 1 amp per sub at 1ohm giving around 2.2kwrms per sub...however, with no decent power supply, dont expect anything major just yet! Dont forget this will only be run off 3 normal batteries for now until I can get the alts sorted and get the new XS Power D1400 batteries in my hands!
Some pics...majorly repetitive, however, I like taking photos, especially since getting the Sony NEX-5!!!
Power figures
1/0 guage inputs...each amp requires a 300amp fuse!
#160
Another update for you all....
Went up to Milton Keynes to pick up my batteries as they arrived with Blade Ice (UK distributor for XS Power) this morning...
As said previously in the thread, we have decided to go for XS Power batteries as IMO, they are the best! Ive tried a good few battery combinations/brands out there, and these honestly surpass my expectations by FAR! You only have to look at the Blade Ice Chevy, Steve Meades Tahoe, Tommy KOB, Frankie etc etc etc, some of the worlds LOUDEST vehicles, which are ALL no budget builds...these guys could have used ANY batteries out there...but they chose XS Power...must be a reason hey We cant all be daft
Some details of the charging system....
There are 3 210a which we are trying to graft onto the Previa...ill definately add more if we think we can get them on there with relatively little work
These alts will be charging at 16.0-16.9v's
We have a XS Power step down module to bring the voltage down from 16, to around 14.8-14.9v constant which will be available to the entire vehicle and headunit/processors/lighting and midrange amps.
There will be a BigYellow battery that the module will 'charging' which the rest of the vehicle will be powered off
There are 4 runs of 0g + and 2 runs of 0g - running from front to back to send the charge of the alts to the rear batteries
The full 16+ volts from the alts charging the rear battery bank will be running all the bass amps which we have been assured will be fine to around 16.5-16.9v
Should we need more cable runs from front to back, we can easily add to them as there is PLENTY of room beneath the vehicle
The rear batteries will be 10 XS Power D1400's to start off with...depending on how the system copes, we plan to add more alts/batteries in the future!
As said, the batteries are the XS Power D1400's...10 of them to be precise...the specs are
D1400
Weight Lbs. - 43.56
Weight Kgs. - 19.75
Length - 10.24 in
Height - 7.20 in
Width - 6.65 in
MAX Amps - 2400
Ah - 50
So in total, we have 24000 amps and 500Ah in battery power for now, and over 630a in charging power from the alts....it might sound like its no where near enough...but as voltage increases, current draw decreases for the same power
On with some pics me thinks!
Standard ride height on the passionwagon lol!
With the batteries
Heres what was causing that boat like drop!
Opening a box
Thought it would be nice to see what the batteries floated at...but I could only be bothered to check one and wait until I installed the rest to check them LOL!
PERFECT! 14.85v floating!
The Step down Module - nice colour to...ill have a multi-coloured engine bay...my external reg is candy blue lol!
Picked up some other goodies to to keep me happy lol!
I have to shift this in the next hour to the lock up But the pile is growing! All im missing now are the last 4 amps!!! Oh and some cabling and MDF!
teamspb
Went up to Milton Keynes to pick up my batteries as they arrived with Blade Ice (UK distributor for XS Power) this morning...
As said previously in the thread, we have decided to go for XS Power batteries as IMO, they are the best! Ive tried a good few battery combinations/brands out there, and these honestly surpass my expectations by FAR! You only have to look at the Blade Ice Chevy, Steve Meades Tahoe, Tommy KOB, Frankie etc etc etc, some of the worlds LOUDEST vehicles, which are ALL no budget builds...these guys could have used ANY batteries out there...but they chose XS Power...must be a reason hey We cant all be daft
Some details of the charging system....
There are 3 210a which we are trying to graft onto the Previa...ill definately add more if we think we can get them on there with relatively little work
These alts will be charging at 16.0-16.9v's
We have a XS Power step down module to bring the voltage down from 16, to around 14.8-14.9v constant which will be available to the entire vehicle and headunit/processors/lighting and midrange amps.
There will be a BigYellow battery that the module will 'charging' which the rest of the vehicle will be powered off
There are 4 runs of 0g + and 2 runs of 0g - running from front to back to send the charge of the alts to the rear batteries
The full 16+ volts from the alts charging the rear battery bank will be running all the bass amps which we have been assured will be fine to around 16.5-16.9v
Should we need more cable runs from front to back, we can easily add to them as there is PLENTY of room beneath the vehicle
The rear batteries will be 10 XS Power D1400's to start off with...depending on how the system copes, we plan to add more alts/batteries in the future!
As said, the batteries are the XS Power D1400's...10 of them to be precise...the specs are
D1400
Weight Lbs. - 43.56
Weight Kgs. - 19.75
Length - 10.24 in
Height - 7.20 in
Width - 6.65 in
MAX Amps - 2400
Ah - 50
So in total, we have 24000 amps and 500Ah in battery power for now, and over 630a in charging power from the alts....it might sound like its no where near enough...but as voltage increases, current draw decreases for the same power
On with some pics me thinks!
Standard ride height on the passionwagon lol!
With the batteries
Heres what was causing that boat like drop!
Opening a box
Thought it would be nice to see what the batteries floated at...but I could only be bothered to check one and wait until I installed the rest to check them LOL!
PERFECT! 14.85v floating!
The Step down Module - nice colour to...ill have a multi-coloured engine bay...my external reg is candy blue lol!
Picked up some other goodies to to keep me happy lol!
I have to shift this in the next hour to the lock up But the pile is growing! All im missing now are the last 4 amps!!! Oh and some cabling and MDF!
teamspb