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Old 06-01-2015, 07:29 AM
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What about a bellhousing adapter, could that be made up.
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This is a pump that runs the transfer box

If you get the proper pump set up you can then run ets pro which will give you full control of centre clutches, I was going to do mine but I bought the r35 instead
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Can any of these skyline boxes run handbrake release?
Old 07-01-2015, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by M K
Can any of these skyline boxes run handbrake release?
If you mean a pull of the handbrake cuts it to 2wd then that has been mentioned and should, in theory, be simple as it needs pressure from the pump to make it 4wd, therefore cut the pump power and voila you should have 2wd......I think?
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer

If you get the proper pump set up you can then run ets pro which will give you full control of centre clutches, I was going to do mine but I bought the r35 instead

Cheap fix then
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MARKK off here has wired his up to do this as he's rallying his car
Old 08-01-2015, 08:06 AM
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I really want to look at this as a cheaper box option

An adapter plate would be a lot easier although I don't know what the disadvantages would be
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Originally Posted by M K
I really want to look at this as a cheaper box option

An adapter plate would be a lot easier although I don't know what the disadvantages would be
an adapter plate is possible as ther is 10 mm to play with
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A lot of yanks use adapter plates in conversions,

Would you not loose the output shaft into the spigot bearing?

As you say 10mm isn't a lot but strong enough to bolt to/through

I could get a plate water cut easily enough, but what material? Mild steel what suffice or stainless as it's only an itermediate plate?
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
an adapter plate is possible as ther is 10 mm to play with
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I am sure there would be a market for these if someone with the right fabrication skills were to produce one
Old 08-01-2015, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by M K
A lot of yanks use adapter plates in conversions,

Would you not loose the output shaft into the spigot bearing?

As you say 10mm isn't a lot but strong enough to bolt to/through

I could get a plate water cut easily enough, but what material? Mild steel what suffice or stainless as it's only an itermediate plate?


shaft is 10mm longer marc
steel is fine and plenty strong enough
Old 08-01-2015, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by M K
I really want to look at this as a cheaper box option

An adapter plate would be a lot easier although I don't know what the disadvantages would be
It is tempting despite the extra weight. I also like the sound of the electronic box of tricks to control the box.

The adapter plate would add more weight but would make the conversion more accessible and marketable; although it does sound like the boxes might need an overhall and then you are starting to get closer to the price of a standard ratio oppliger gear kit all built up.
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Adapter plate, sounds like a good idea.
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Originally Posted by ossie cossie
Adapter plate, sounds like a good idea.
Well why didnt you mention it at the top of this page then.......Oh, you did
Old 08-01-2015, 03:33 PM
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This torque split controller is what you want really as well I guess to fully control the box

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=121539014168
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Originally Posted by M K
This torque split controller is what you want really as well I guess to fully control the box

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=121539014168
The ETS pro one does a whole lot more automatically but is a lot more cash.
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I'm not 100% but I have had a read up about these controllers befor and from wot I was seeing it still wires into the skyline ECU but I might be rong
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They can be wired without the Ecu mate as they were partly designed for race cars using skyline box conversions as well as better control in the standard skyline
Old 08-01-2015, 10:40 PM
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A bad screenshot of one of the transmission maps and the compensation tables.
This works with the Skyline Attessa control solenoid.
There is a user dash box with accelerometer and G sensing, map selection, lock, 2wd, auto, progression control.
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Originally Posted by M K
They can be wired without the Ecu mate as they were partly designed for race cars using skyline box conversions as well as better control in the standard skyline
Dose it bring the 4x4 on line when it needed like the skyline dose ??
As if it's just 2 / 4x4 on a switch
Or haw much 4x4 you won't it to have by turning the nob . I'v don't that on my car for £18
But if it dose more then I might be into one . I did send a email to a place about them but they never come back to me
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Originally Posted by markk


A bad screenshot of one of the transmission maps and the compensation tables.
This works with the Skyline Attessa control solenoid.
There is a user dash box with accelerometer and G sensing, map selection, lock, 2wd, auto, progression control.
how dose them and ware from and at wot price I'v asked you about this befor and by a PM and you have never come back to my if you could share the info it would be grate
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Originally Posted by COLEYST200
how dose them and ware from and at wot price I'v asked you about this befor and by a PM and you have never come back to my if you could share the info it would be grate
http://mapdccd.com/dccd.html
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Martin, did you ever do the conversion by adapter plate...if so I imagine you kept a drawing.? If there was a group buy or an order level would you make them again?
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Originally Posted by COLEYST200
I'm not 100% but I have had a read up about these controllers befor and from wot I was seeing it still wires into the skyline ECU but I might be rong

yes mate you are wrong all you need is this full race ets control system its a full stand alone system that doesn't need any of the original Nissan stuff except the attessa control unit which you need anyways to control the clutches.


http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...fuTGYugX5Fqd9g




fully automated control just like in a gtr via g sensor.


or customizable map via usb interface.


it perfect imo, as full auto will be fine for 90% of people, then its mappable if so required and also manual gain knob aswell for manual control.


if I hadn't bought the r35 my r33 was getting the ets pro and an uprated rear diff.

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Originally Posted by M K
This torque split controller is what you want really as well I guess to fully control the box

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=121539014168
Thats about 30km from where i live nice work.
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Originally Posted by M K
This torque split controller is what you want really as well I guess to fully control the box

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=121539014168




that is no good as its integrated into the Nissan systems aswell, full race ets pro is full stand alone and not that expensive imo.
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Martin, did you ever do the conversion by adapter plate...if so I imagine you kept a drawing.? If there was a group buy or an order level would you make them again?
I'm not a trader on here so I cant reply to that.
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
I'm not a trader on here so I cant reply to that.
Can you confirm if you made the adapter and have the plans as that is not trading surely?
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Can you confirm if you made the adapter and have the plans as that is not trading surely?
it would be good to get a full kit done
adapter
spigot bush /bearing
gearbox mount to bolt to cossy pickup points
prop shafts
patch panel for tunnel were you have to cut
clutch and centre push
so it is a full bolt in job

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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
it would be good to get a full kit done
adapter
spigot bush /bearing
gearbox mount to bolt to cossy pickup points
prop shafts
patch panel for tunnel were you have to cut
clutch and centre push
so it is a full bolt in job

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Agreed, if the adapter is done then the rest should be simple to build up as a kit?
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Still going to be a expensive kit
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
Agreed, if the adapter is done then the rest should be simple to build up as a kit?
Wont take you long to make if its simple then lol
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Originally Posted by Jay,
Still going to be a expensive kit
Prob about £1500/£1800
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
Wont take you long to make if its simple then lol
If I was in that business it would not take my team long, no!

The centre push kit is on the shelf at reyland so not hard to add as a buy from here or build similar, bearings and spigot would be a trial an error and prop shafts might be an adapter one end and a measure up and machine the other.

To be honest I do not think the whole thing is that hard if you have the parts and machinery that's the hard and expensive bit?
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
Prob about £1500/£1800
Agreed, fair price and a lot cheaper than alternatives and easier to buy in chunks, this kit one month, box the next etc....

You can then add the controller of your choice.

To me it would be an alternative to the £5k option I am looking at and if you get the 2wd and 4wd options that would be a plus point. If you break a box the replacement would be peanuts.
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack
If I was in that business it would not take my team long, no!

The centre push kit is on the shelf at reyland so not hard to add as a buy from here or build similar, bearings and spigot would be a trial an error and prop shafts might be an adapter one end and a measure up and machine the other.

To be honest I do not think the whole thing is that hard if you have the parts and machinery that's the hard and expensive bit?
its the working out and making sure it all fits thats the hard bit ,making the jigs
to make the gearbox mounts etc etc ,if you want to supply all the drawings etc i will do the hard and expensive bits on my machines lol ,out of interest what does your team do
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Originally Posted by MK MOTORSPORT
its the working out and making sure it all fits thats the hard bit ,making the jigs
to make the gearbox mounts etc etc ,if you want to supply all the drawings etc i will do the hard and expensive bits on my machines lol ,out of interest what does your team do
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My question to Martin was about the drawings, if we had them we are good to go. I am actually on the same page as you although I think that you think I am undermining the skill and work, I am not.

My team are all about large scale volume finance, not engineering. If I was in fabrication and engineering I would assemble a team of engineers.

You are right the hard work is the mock up and working it all out, after that the kit is simple, nothing that cannot be done. If I handed you technical drawing and a cad program then it is simple that is my point and there are enough cossie buyers out there to buy the kits. So many threads on here are about broken 4x4 gearboxes, converting to 2 wd and putting off the big purchase or the noise of straight cut big tooth boxes I think that the more bolt on the solution the more YOU could sell.

I do have some experience of fabricated parts but once we solved the problems it was very simple to replicate and multiply.

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