littlebram's S2. 2.1 zvh Mtx update
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Bit of a update me and big bram have been putting a mtx box in after I stipped 3rd gear in my cts2 box trying to race a bike ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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Am going to be using a early mondeo box so ive still got a speedo drive but will buy a dif at a later date.
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Am going to be using a early mondeo box so ive still got a speedo drive but will buy a dif at a later date.
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Ok am sorted now I think.
Over the last few month ave been sourcing parts to put this box in including a mondeo witch the box cables and shafts came from. After putting the box in to mark up for the hole in the chassis leg we dropped the box out to sort the leg out
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Got my shaft sorted and look a good bit of kit
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getting there now
Over the last few month ave been sourcing parts to put this box in including a mondeo witch the box cables and shafts came from. After putting the box in to mark up for the hole in the chassis leg we dropped the box out to sort the leg out
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Got my shaft sorted and look a good bit of kit
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getting there now
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That inner wing looks spot on, when I eventually go for mtx I'm gonna have to strip the bay and hopefully have the car recovered to crazycage for him to weld all the mounts in etc then with a bit of luck have the bay repainted before reassemble in a single car garage.
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Thanks it not a bad job to do for me it just getting time to do it. do you need the full bay painting on yours could you not paint parts of it like I have? or are you doing a full bay resto.
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Wouldn't say need but its never been done from new, so perhaps a good time if engine and box is out again. ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Is your speedo still gonna be cable driven?
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Is your speedo still gonna be cable driven?
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Yes the car the box came from didn't have a cable but still used a drive that the pick up ran off. I just took the pick up sencer off that the wires come out of and that leaves the drive like the sandard rs box has so you can screw your cable on.
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Well alittle bit of a update. The box is doing well drives a lot better with this box in only problem we've had with it is the bottom mountain started to ripe off.
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So after sorting that and making it abit stronger we booked a long weekend up Scotland. First up was a day at Sitech and things started well with the new boost controller first run on the rollers showed 376bhp but alittle lean so I was feeling hopeful on making good power but then the miss fire started and after new plugs we just couldn't sort it and the day was ending so we settled for 330 again but was running safe. The next day we where booked in for our first track day witch would be a big learning curve for us.
All cleaned for the weekend
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We arrived at knockhill and went out on our first session and although the car was fast we quickly found out that the suspension was not up to the job
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But then at the end of the first session it start to knock badly so in the pits after tea we looked over but there was nothing we could do so we call it a day and headed home.
The car drove the 250 miles home only knocking if the boost came in.
We got home and stripped it down and found no1 rod was damaged along with the crank and we put it down to oil surge.
Some pictures of the damage
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Am on with the rebuild so will update later
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So after sorting that and making it abit stronger we booked a long weekend up Scotland. First up was a day at Sitech and things started well with the new boost controller first run on the rollers showed 376bhp but alittle lean so I was feeling hopeful on making good power but then the miss fire started and after new plugs we just couldn't sort it and the day was ending so we settled for 330 again but was running safe. The next day we where booked in for our first track day witch would be a big learning curve for us.
All cleaned for the weekend
<a href="http://s382.photobucket.com/user/littlebram1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/04F2BF98-257E-4487-B4B5-5A613F3CAE06_zpsaqembbvm.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/littlebram1/Mobile%20Uploads/04F2BF98-257E-4487-B4B5-5A613F3CAE06_zpsaqembbvm.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 04F2BF98-257E-4487-B4B5-5A613F3CAE06_zpsaqembbvm.jpg"/></a>
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We arrived at knockhill and went out on our first session and although the car was fast we quickly found out that the suspension was not up to the job
<a href="http://s382.photobucket.com/user/littlebram1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F63CBD8E-5A3F-4891-9ECB-3899835D056E_zpshhcmynp9.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/littlebram1/Mobile%20Uploads/F63CBD8E-5A3F-4891-9ECB-3899835D056E_zpshhcmynp9.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo F63CBD8E-5A3F-4891-9ECB-3899835D056E_zpshhcmynp9.jpg"/></a>
But then at the end of the first session it start to knock badly so in the pits after tea we looked over but there was nothing we could do so we call it a day and headed home.
The car drove the 250 miles home only knocking if the boost came in.
We got home and stripped it down and found no1 rod was damaged along with the crank and we put it down to oil surge.
Some pictures of the damage
<a href="http://s382.photobucket.com/user/littlebram1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/64F79015-596A-410B-8968-44DF42333C95_zpsww3ikqxl.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo264/littlebram1/Mobile%20Uploads/64F79015-596A-410B-8968-44DF42333C95_zpsww3ikqxl.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 64F79015-596A-410B-8968-44DF42333C95_zpsww3ikqxl.jpg"/></a>
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Am on with the rebuild so will update later
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Thanks mate I'm (little bram) driving and the better looking brother. Yeah was a shame I wasn't really bothered about the car i was sad my brother didn't get a chance to have a go but at least we know what the cars is like on track and what we need to do.
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Going to try to am planning to get the car on the road next month and try and get some miles on it with some weekend drives out then definitely need new suspension before anymore track days.
Is your car coming out this year rob?
Is your car coming out this year rob?
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What management you putting on am I right in thinking you do your own mapping now? Never know I mite get to see your car this year lol.
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Yeah was a shame. I had a 1.8 zetec sump on and they are pretty shit. I took it to get baffled from I rally company but I don't like the look of it so going to fit the later black top sump what has one in standard.
Here is the 1.8 sump I got baffled
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Here is the 1.8 sump I got baffled
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Probably me lol. Well mine hasn't caused any problems for the last 6 years or so with runs at York raceway as well and it doesn't get a easy life but get well look after. However this was my first track day and with no baffles in them sumps it ment the end of my rod.
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Sounds good and that's like me never got time. You going to see how much your engine will do or just safe and nice?
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I'll see how carried away I get mate. If im stupid I will buy a CNC head, get a cam made to my spec and change the turbo to something else (not sure what yet), I made a touch over 300 BHP on a customers car recently with a similar spec to what I would probably go for (He was using a TT Stage 3 T3... what ever that truly means in reality).
Although what ever it makes the boost will be capped to limit bhp to 270bhp because the number plate starts with E270 and im stupid like that lol, but the fringe benefit will be a gearbox that lasts for a little longer.
I also prefer capping peak power on CVH's as the torque curve stays flatter and they feel (to me) slightly more fun to drive with out that running out of puff above 5K sensation a lot of CVH based RST's have.
The other option is a CVH34 from kent and a TD04 of some description for a cheapish but nice to drive 260ish bhp
What are your next plans after the bottom end is sorted? Just drive and enjoy or something else?
Although what ever it makes the boost will be capped to limit bhp to 270bhp because the number plate starts with E270 and im stupid like that lol, but the fringe benefit will be a gearbox that lasts for a little longer.
I also prefer capping peak power on CVH's as the torque curve stays flatter and they feel (to me) slightly more fun to drive with out that running out of puff above 5K sensation a lot of CVH based RST's have.
The other option is a CVH34 from kent and a TD04 of some description for a cheapish but nice to drive 260ish bhp
What are your next plans after the bottom end is sorted? Just drive and enjoy or something else?
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Haha can't believe you are going to match the bhp to the reg. Yeah I'll always be changing things but just try and get some more track day out of it. It could do with getting painted but don't think I'll get it done yet.