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Very nice beefy.

paul16v

Except rear seat belts, it never had those thought I was going to die a couple of times in the back of that car, and that was when it had a std motor

WENNY

haha there for girls, just scream if you wana go faster ginge

haha ok beef

-beefy-

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lol


i bet ginge , i got one run with blacky when he was bedding the bara box in ,



screamed like a girl , CANT WAIT for when shes bk out ,


ill ask spesh bout the aircon lol



bet i get told to fuk off

paul16v

Ive got an air con heaterbox if you want to try it in lol

-beefy-

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ginge i could swing for ya!!


lol c u satday , with a bit of luck it mabey on the spit tomorrw afternoon ,

whats involved re wiring and pipewise with the aircon lyk ??

paul16v

The bulkhead panel is different for starters mate, but the bit you would need has just been cut off Warrens car lol

-beefy-

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has it really ,


ill throw it to spesh in the am ,


only worry i have is that i dont have the full width of the cossie bulkhead ,it was slimmed down to meet the mk 3 section ,


saying that i can fit a stock heater box in on the cos mounts ?

and the panel would just weld in behind yeah ginge ??

i see some parts being borrowed for a mock up


wenn , would it fit behind a s2 dash ?

littleknocks

No mate, hat off to you! This is going to be superb! Loving the craftsmanship that's gone into it, respect to you and the fabricator!

WENNY

yes beef would fit, what heater matrix u using, cossy

bigryrs

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This is gonna be top!

GranaDavey

Awesome job there mate, this is really "Fuck The Factory, Kustomize!"

dojj

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look at martoons rs500 thread about how to retro fit air con mate

as long as you have enough space for the standard ford sierra heater box them it's not an issue

you can also get the bits from a granada and if you get a later spec one, 92 onwards, the recirc mechanicals take up less sapce as it's all self contained, but you can bin that if you don't need it and free up some space for the wiper motor

-beefy-

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spoke to karl eairler , hes 50-50 on the air con , as he recons space will be an issue ,


obv neither of us have had much experience with aircon units ect ,

i planned on using a sierra heaterbox incar, as this area is stock , and cos airbox ,fan thing on top


k didnt reckon it would fit behind a s2 dash like......


hummmm ,

-beefy-

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yeah dojj , looked at martoons thread last night, but the pics dont give that clear an insight into what was done,

yea saw the section he welded in ,

just wondering how i would fit the controls to a s2 dash , are they cable or electrical ?

Rides

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FUCK ME this builds amazing the attention to detail on certain parts is bloody good..will be one wicked car once finished..top job..

-beefy-

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not certian parts mate






all the parts lol !!


i aint looking forward to putting it together i tell you that ,


im a bit heavy handed and with all that fresh polished paint lol !!

Martin-Hadland

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The heater box inside the car is the same for aircon as std its the bit in the engine bay thats bigger. Here's a couple of pics of the aircon panel..

BigErn

Coming on mint Beef. Karls ocd is still on form I see. Will have to pop down and see you's sometime its beena while.

-beefy-

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much appriceated mart , i take it the section that sits in the engine bay dosent protrude further towards the engine , more rather bk into the bulkhead ?

personally i reckon it would fit looking at that , maybe when k see's this he could be swayed ,


still doesnt answer my questions regards how to pipe the vents and the controls ?

-beefy-

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aye fella , deffo on form ,

yeah , you know where we is lol , hows the saff coming along bud

Northants Ford Fan

didnt some very late mk4 escort cabriolets have aircon ? you might be able to get the controls from one or even from ford if your lucky

Martin-Hadland

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Like I said the internal heater is the same, that makes the control slider and cables the same too! Just the switch has aircon on/off facility.

-beefy-

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no idea fella ???

-beefy-

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quick google revealed this


The Escort Mark IV came in early 1986, with only a small amount of changes. Codenamed within Ford as "Erika–86", it was instantly recognisable as an updated version of the previous model, with a smooth style nose and the "straked" rear lamp clusters smoothed over. Optional new features included a mechanical anti‐lock braking system (standard on RS Turbo models), a fuel computer on fuel injected models, and a heated windshield. However, the check-light system for low fuel, low oil, low coolant, low screenwash, and worn out brake pads was no longer fitted to any model. Air conditioning was not available on cars sold in Europe although it was an option on cars sold in Brazil. In 1987, an LX trim designation was introduced which was situated between the L and GL models.



anyone got a mate in brazil lol

COCHYN

Aircon?! You gotta be joking Just get a nice heater for those cold days and leave it at that

big andy

hi can you fit the escot rs cosworth air con and the dash is that the same cars looking spot on wen are you gettig on with the back end andy

marky_g

speak to AC specialist sure u can get universal AC

try a place called AlpineAir we use them where i work

Alpine Air Conditioning 6 West Heath Drive


London


NW11 7QH

020 89221810

dojj

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beef, i think you are getting a bit confused mate

the "heater" on the sierra's is inside the car but the aircon gubbins sit in front of the fan in an enclosed unit, the bit for the air con therefore does it's thing before it hits the heater, hence the big lump of metal protruding into the cabin

make sure that you have everything ready to trial fit as this internal panel needs to line up with the outside bit for it to seal etc correctly

i might have soem bits and bobs laying about but from memory you need about 15 inches worth of space to get it to fit

RSricRS

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Fuck the aircon off beef, nice thought and idea though but is it a must ? i think not.

Every car has aircon... just open the windows ! Job sorted

Save the money for the boost pipe lol

-beefy-

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ok peeps ,

discussed the aircon idea with karl...............








and weve fucked it off ,


as much as it would be cool , it would be a gimmik , its not nessacary and frankly im a fan of window down driving lol ,

so the aircon is getting the " old spanish archer "






the big elbow !!



we have so much to do as is , we dont need more dramas on top lol


so bk on with the project lol


k & b

paul16v

Will keep my mouth shut next time or else Karl will be gunning for me lol

-beefy-

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he got his little ginger vodoo doll out and dipped it in a bowl of fosters lol !!

paul16v

ghia4x4

Looking good man

Credit to ya all the work thats went into it

Hope to see ya over for some ford show in the not to distant future

james kiely

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its hard to put to words ,just how stunning this car is going to be when its finished beefy ,hats off to you and karl mate

i know where i will be going should i cossie my s1

-beefy-

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thanks for the kind words james ,


comments like really spur us on to make it the best possible ,

-beefy-

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lil update on way

-beefy-

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so lil bot done last night and this eve, not alot on the grand scale but its all go to be sorted , k's had his daughters this wknd so not alot of time spent in garage

anyway

got on with removal of the last of the old front panel




so we could attend to these sections where the cos inner wing meets the last of the mk 3 inner wing



you can see where they were tackwelded together when we first fitted the floorpan

some sections were measured and folded









and for cutch- with refrence to our conversation the other afternoon mate



see the cresent ?

and with the bits welded in





other side



the full inner wings will be skimmed and smoothed ,


steering rack and colum mods

as in the previous post the colum had been fitted and clearance to the brake assembly , but needs and additional support making up ,

bit this needed the rack in postion , so it was pulled from the garage




now the coloum im using was removed from the cos s2 , so its already been modded , but as the s2 ran a 4x4 setup , im sure the uj arrangement is shorter than a 2wd



anyway that will be cut to suit ,

offerd the colum bk in and gauged the height for now , ( dash will be refitted , with cowl and a steering wheel )

anyway ,with it being late and no use of power tools allowed karls mocked up the bracketry in card , it will be cut and folded tomorrow ( update on that when it happens )

so with that done , and us paying a visit eairler in the day up to wennys ,

spotted something sat in the corner of the garage , and a quick fonecall to warren kelly ( owner of the time attack escos ) saw me running out the unit with a big fat 18 x 9j " 888 " shod alloy wheel lol

much appriceated mate !!!

so seemed rude not to try it in lol




obv it set in the arch to clear the inner lip as it would when launching ,

now i know 888s are quite square with there sidewalls ,

but fuck me it looks " FAT "



and a few pics on the inner clearance side







and a view vertiaclly up the inner tyre , the hole is the o.e mk three turret that was topped







now we had a conflab , and as much as the aim was to run 10j rears , its going to be tight , its the front of the inner arch that looses clearance really ,

now i know it could be down to that sidewall profile , and that if we push the wheel out and with thin tyres blah blah , it may go ,

but tbh 9's are plenty wide, they fit without hacking the outer or inner quarter lips to bits , so the kit can be fitted correctly and not just bonded on , and it also means i can but a set of staggerd bbs ch's off the shelf in 8 fronts 9 rears ,

i may look into 10s further down the line , but for now with 9s it means the turrets should be able to go in as where happy with the height and now we know we can put them were we had them mocked and we have suitable clearances ,

and with that done , and it getting late, i slung a battery in the battery tray and offerd it into the bay ,







plan is to use a mk 3 battery tray , but fit in on an angle simlar to a cossie o.e batt tray ,

needs a little tweaking but plenty of room for a stock size battery and the front corner dosent protrude much past the inside edge of the turret so tray to inlet shouldnt be an issue ,


so yeah , lil bit done , more to come tommorrow or no doubt monday

k & b

Daveysaff

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Absolutely fanfuckintastic build Beef. Hats off to you and special K!!
You two have inspired me to do a fabrication and welding course and see if I can have a crack at doing something like this in the future!!