Mk4 Escort Estate, ST170 on Throttle Bodies (+'Ring Video)
10-03-2009, 01:00 PM
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The Weber conversion totally transformed it, and as much as I would reccomend it to everyone I know it is still pricey.
To be brutally honest if I was doing a Zetec conversion and working on a tight budget I would go straight for one of Weber's plug and play stand alone ECU & loom kit which retains the original inlet manifold.
Its about £300, ready mapped for whatever version of Zetec you have....... and well worth it if it means you don't have to deal with shonky old Ford looms!
To be brutally honest if I was doing a Zetec conversion and working on a tight budget I would go straight for one of Weber's plug and play stand alone ECU & loom kit which retains the original inlet manifold.
Its about £300, ready mapped for whatever version of Zetec you have....... and well worth it if it means you don't have to deal with shonky old Ford looms!
Are you sure its about £300? i cant find the kit anywhere? a link would be great!
Edit: dont worry.. i found one for 995 i think it was.
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11-03-2009, 09:33 AM
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Gearbox went pop last night! Nursed it home in 3rd for about 10 miles as it was the only gear I could eventually find!
This doesn't bode well for my MK3 project which will also be running a BC box with tons more power
Cheers!
The kit I've got can be supplied mapped for any version of the 1.8 & 2.0 Zetec.
Nothing for the 1.6 as nobody really tunes them as they've got a massively restrictive head...
This doesn't bode well for my MK3 project which will also be running a BC box with tons more power
Cheers! The kit I've got can be supplied mapped for any version of the 1.8 & 2.0 Zetec.
Nothing for the 1.6 as nobody really tunes them as they've got a massively restrictive head...
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22-04-2009, 12:44 AM
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[QUOTE=Ade;4005254]Gearbox went pop last night! Nursed it home in 3rd for about 10 miles as it was the only gear I could eventually find!
This doesn't bode well for my MK3 project which will also be running a BC box with tons more power
You could fit the mk5 escort IB5 bit stronger than the BC
This doesn't bode well for my MK3 project which will also be running a BC box with tons more power
You could fit the mk5 escort IB5 bit stronger than the BC
27-10-2009, 11:53 PM
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ST170 running the Weber Alpha throttle Bodies, should see 200BHP or not far off 
Also should get a tart up as its got some crusty bits appearing.... although its tempting to leave it, as mintyness means less sleeper points!
Got one in it now, fingers crossed it holds up!
Also should get a tart up as its got some crusty bits appearing.... although its tempting to leave it, as mintyness means less sleeper points!
Got one in it now, fingers crossed it holds up!
13-07-2010, 11:29 AM
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Was at the 'Ring last week in the Estate with the new ST170 & throttle bodies setup... quick and a lot of fun but need some geometry mods I'd say to make it less twitchy and underteery. Still raced and passed tons of unsuspecting cars though including an M3, AMG merc etc etc...
Managed a 9:50 on the dry day... video to follow, for now here's a couple of nicked pix
Managed a 9:50 on the dry day... video to follow, for now here's a couple of nicked pix
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15-09-2010, 08:16 AM
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Nothing different! Just some maintenance from the results of the trip to Norway....
A CV boot ripped right off, and there's some nasty transmission noises as well. Fingers crossed it's just the CV joint, but my gut says it's the box...
A CV boot ripped right off, and there's some nasty transmission noises as well. Fingers crossed it's just the CV joint, but my gut says it's the box...
04-10-2010, 12:28 PM
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ST170 & throttle bodies in a Mk4 Escort Estate..... awesome fun.
Crappy exploding Rs Turbo gearboxes.... rubbish!
Crappy exploding Rs Turbo gearboxes.... rubbish!
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04-10-2010, 12:58 PM
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Not been on the dyno, but somewhere between 180-200 BHP. I'd say in the upper regions of that estimate.
Did a 14.8sec quarter mile on Crail's shitty surface last weekend.
Did a 14.8sec quarter mile on Crail's shitty surface last weekend.
02-11-2010, 10:15 AM
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Here's a vid from the Ring a few months back. This was the last lap of the day in the Estate taking 9:51min.
The day before I had ripped the exhaust off in the Carousel, and during this day the Alternator self destructed due to prolonged high revs. I still drove it to Norway for Gatebil the day after though!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XavaM46jFQ
For future trips it seriously needs its handling sorted though, as it was very vague, heavy and prone to sudden understeer
Still all good fun, can't wait to get back!
The day before I had ripped the exhaust off in the Carousel, and during this day the Alternator self destructed due to prolonged high revs. I still drove it to Norway for Gatebil the day after though!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XavaM46jFQ
For future trips it seriously needs its handling sorted though, as it was very vague, heavy and prone to sudden understeer
Still all good fun, can't wait to get back!
03-11-2010, 12:27 AM
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alright ade...get a proper gearbox done for this instead of chucking in high mileage semi fucked replacements....been there done it . how are you controlling the vvt on the st170 ?
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03-11-2010, 10:45 AM
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Running an IB5 box now which seems to be holding up!
VVT is currently on a switch, but it's mapped to come in at around 2000rpm. Basically just switch it off for starting and idling in jams. Will be getting properly hooked up to the Weber ECU soon though.
Yeah, I think using it as a tow car might be a bad idea too
VVT is currently on a switch, but it's mapped to come in at around 2000rpm. Basically just switch it off for starting and idling in jams. Will be getting properly hooked up to the Weber ECU soon though.
Yeah, I think using it as a tow car might be a bad idea too
03-11-2010, 01:13 PM
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big difference is getting it working properly with a PWM output from ecu as its not as simple as on/off mate. ill be finding out in the next month or so as just getting a dta s60 instead of the mbe to control it ...downside is cost £1000 +for ecu and loom plus mapping. has sitech done any of these on a PWM output??
03-11-2010, 08:19 PM
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The Weber ECU didn't have a suitable output, but they've since sent Sitech some appropriate parts to solder in, then it'll be all good to run it...
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Booooooooo i seen the post you put on about the ib5 box and thought you were gonna keep the escort.Its a shame to break it Ade but its your car at the end of the day.
Have you done anymore drift days lately?
Have you done anymore drift days lately?
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