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Old 28-04-2008, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman
Sounds like a bangers been holding you up at work

Making great progress though
Cheers Gary,

There's hope for said 'banger' yet
Old 28-04-2008, 10:37 PM
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good work evo gonnabe quick but are the cams goin to be 2 far up rev range ...
Old 29-04-2008, 07:28 AM
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Great work ,hope all goes well for the ring
Old 29-04-2008, 08:00 AM
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nice cant wait to see pics and vids from the ring
Old 29-04-2008, 08:22 AM
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Idea of the cams and the smaller turbo is that as the turbo starts to fall out of its power band - the cams will finish off the rev range
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Rightio - Good news and bad news

Good news - She fired up last night after a little tweaking and now idles and revs etc. Also moved around under her own steam


Bad news - There are still a few things i'm not happy with on the car, things that will take even more time to do properly

Sadly - time is the one thing we haven't got

We've been up against it from day 1 with parts not being delivered on time, problems with the rear diff taking nearly 2 weeks to sort, bits being sent for an evo 8 instead of an evo 5 etc. etc.

Sooooo...

We've decided to leave her at home for this ring trip rather than run the risks that go with taking a car that hasn't been shaken down to the most arduous race track in the world.

She'll be shaken down on our return, mapped to 2.5bar and will then do a few UK track days prior to another planned ring trip later in the year

There'll be more photos soon - as soon as i get TIME to upload them
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Will........

Think you did a mega job to get it this far in such a short space of time mate

Deffo the right decision to leave it at home until it`s right though,nothing worse than having a trip spoilt by unseen problems.......

Saying that,mine still aint 100% either
Old 07-05-2008, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Deffo the right decision to leave it at home until it`s right though,nothing worse than having a trip spoilt by unseen problems.......
That's exactly it.

I'm tired and i need a holiday - not to be listening for rattles and squeaks and getting the spanners out
Old 07-05-2008, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
That's exactly it.

I'm tired and i need a holiday - not to be listening for rattles and squeaks and getting the spanners out




best get pissed instead
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
That's exactly it.

I'm tired and i need a holiday - not to be listening for rattles and squeaks and getting the spanners out

That`ll be me then

I`m taking enough spares and tools to start up a cosworth specialists in Adenau
Old 07-05-2008, 09:03 PM
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Ace work, do you work for the Motorsport Developments in Blackpool, for Stu, the guy off here?
Old 08-05-2008, 06:44 AM
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Yes he lives, I mean works at MSD mate
Old 08-05-2008, 11:52 AM
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Will - excuse me if its already been mentioned but what management will this be running on?

Slightly off topic... whats the difference between the cams from an Evo 5 and Evo 7/8/9 (i dont mean in profile, lift, duration etc) are they all plug n play so to speak, apart from the later MIVEC ones? as people always list them seperately eg for 4/5/6 and for 7/8/9 so they must be different else they'd be listed as Evo 4/5/6/7/8/9 HELP
Old 08-05-2008, 11:57 AM
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Sad news mate, at least your part, the main part of the build was done over a week ago, shame 3rd party input, or lack of has meant the car will not be going...

Roll on tonight mate. See you at the meal..
Old 08-05-2008, 12:06 PM
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Ahh so this has finally come to light Will!

Looks and excellent build and once its done I'd love to have a ride in this beast!

Best of luck with the rest of it and good to see you again down the Pod!
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Originally Posted by Red16
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Will's @ the Ring Ben
Old 12-05-2008, 05:55 PM
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slacker lol wish i was there
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Will's @ the Ring Ben
yeah well... but...
Old 19-05-2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Red16
Will - excuse me if its already been mentioned but what management will this be running on?

Slightly off topic... whats the difference between the cams from an Evo 5 and Evo 7/8/9 (i dont mean in profile, lift, duration etc) are they all plug n play so to speak, apart from the later MIVEC ones? as people always list them seperately eg for 4/5/6 and for 7/8/9 so they must be different else they'd be listed as Evo 4/5/6/7/8/9 HELP
UP for a response to this
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Sorry for the delay in replying Ben - honest answer is...

I'm not sure.

I've never tried interchanging cams between a 4/5/6 and a 7/8/9 - i'm hoping to finish this car off at some point soon so i'll have a nosey into it for you then
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Originally Posted by Red16
Will - excuse me if its already been mentioned but what management will this be running on?

Slightly off topic... whats the difference between the cams from an Evo 5 and Evo 7/8/9 (i dont mean in profile, lift, duration etc) are they all plug n play so to speak, apart from the later MIVEC ones? as people always list them seperately eg for 4/5/6 and for 7/8/9 so they must be different else they'd be listed as Evo 4/5/6/7/8/9 HELP
The 7 onwards has a larger bolt holding the cam sensor on and a larger hole in the trigger wheel also.

Mark
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Sorry for the delay in replying Ben - honest answer is...

I'm not sure.

I've never tried interchanging cams between a 4/5/6 and a 7/8/9 - i'm hoping to finish this car off at some point soon so i'll have a nosey into it for you then
thanks

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The 7 onwards has a larger bolt holding the cam sensor on and a larger hole in the trigger wheel also.

Mark
thanks
Old 18-06-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The 7 onwards has a larger bolt holding the cam sensor on and a larger hole in the trigger wheel also.

Mark
So that was why i had to make a bolt and washer combination fit...

I thought it was HKS sending me under-developed parts

In answer to your question Ben - it is possible to fit a 4/5/6 cam in a 7/8/9 engine - because by the sounds of it - i've just done it

Cheers Mark
Old 18-06-2008, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
So that was why i had to make a bolt and washer combination fit...

I thought it was HKS sending me under-developed parts

In answer to your question Ben - it is possible to fit a 4/5/6 cam in a 7/8/9 engine - because by the sounds of it - i've just done it

Cheers Mark
Cheers for that

i will be doing it the other way round by fitting an Evo 7/8/9 cam into an Evo 5... unless i can grab a bargain set of 272's intended for an Evo 5... but with new Evo parts prices the way they are from over the pond i doubt it.

Has any progress been made on this Evo Will ?
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Well Ben,

In answer to your question - yes and no...

The car has been provisionally sold to someone and so is finally getting finished

Hopefully the required funds to finish it will be made available and its new owner will enjoy battering it round
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A big thank you to Will for all the work he has done on this to date, and also for the help on Saturday.

Hopefully next Saturday we will have the little niggly bits needed to finish this off so we can get some test drives done.
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Originally Posted by corky_79
A big thank you to Will for all the work he has done on this to date, and also for the help on Saturday.

Hopefully next Saturday we will have the little niggly bits needed to finish this off so we can get some test drives done.
Bring a jerrycan of V power and if you're feeling flush a new set of 45G HKS plugs

We'll do a fuelling check and make sure its safe to commute to the dyno for mapping
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Well - Just to wrap this up - Corky 79 is officially the new owner

The car went to him just running a base map and yesterday it was mapped at RC Developments and the engine is currently making a healthy 440bhp @ 1.5bar boost.

It did over 500bhp at one point, but the fuel system was maxed out. Shame i never got time to do the swirl pot and 044 pump setup.

Not a bad result for the timeframe i had to do the engine
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good power, well done Will.
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Well - Just to wrap this up - Corky 79 is officially the new owner

The car went to him just running a base map and yesterday it was mapped at RC Developments and the engine is currently making a healthy 440bhp @ 1.5bar boost.

It did over 500bhp at one point, but the fuel system was maxed out. Shame i never got time to do the swirl pot and 044 pump setup.

Not a bad result for the timeframe i had to do the engine
Is Corky local to Blackpool then Will? I keep seeing white Evo's about all over the place, is it on a P plate??

Tim
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Originally Posted by doesntbelong
Is Corky local to Blackpool then Will? I keep seeing white Evo's about all over the place, is it on a P plate??

Tim
You'll recognise it when you see it lol - he is local
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Originally Posted by doesntbelong
Is Corky local to Blackpool then Will? I keep seeing white Evo's about all over the place, is it on a P plate??

Tim
Until recently I have been driving an 04 plate silver VIII with a carbon bonnet and RC stickers (and other sponsor stickers) all over it.
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Originally Posted by corky_79
Until recently I have been driving an 04 plate silver VIII with a carbon bonnet and RC stickers (and other sponsor stickers) all over it.
Complete with un-obliterated centre diff

Not your fault though mate - we'll chuck a new one in and then you can go and win at Combe
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Doubtful, it doesn't hit full boost until 5700 rpm Will
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Originally Posted by corky_79
Doubtful, it doesn't hit full boost until 5700 rpm Will
How much tweaking was done on the dyno with cam timing mate?

I dialled those cams in for peak power - which on those cams is 9000rpm territory

As you said though - it does hold its power all the way to 8000rpm!

Just going to need to keep the revs mega high if the boost can't be brought in sooner through cam timing...
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
You'll recognise it when you see it lol - he is local
Originally Posted by corky_79
Until recently I have been driving an 04 plate silver VIII with a carbon bonnet and RC stickers (and other sponsor stickers) all over it.
I would presume SSS might figure on it somewhere along with some other vinyls?

I do like Evo's when they are stickered up they really suit it.

I do need pics in my life though gents!

Tim
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Thought I'd give you a quick update on my car.

After a fair bit of work at CPR, the car was mapped to 2 bar and hit a healthy 515 bhp and 475 FT/lbs. (with the bosch 044 fitted).

Full boost was coming in at 4600 rpm, and held to 8000 rpm

This found a weak component, being the manifold, which basically fell to bits.

I have now had a new manifold fabricated for it, and it will be mapped again.

It should spool earlier, and we are hoping for full boost by around 4400 rpm.

Estimating 530-550 bhp now.

Lots of sprints planned for the year and just needs APs.

All the best

Corky
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Originally Posted by corky_79
Thought I'd give you a quick update on my car.

After a fair bit of work at CPR, the car was mapped to 2 bar and hit a healthy 515 bhp and 475 FT/lbs. (with the bosch 044 fitted).

Full boost was coming in at 4600 rpm, and held to 8000 rpm

This found a weak component, being the manifold, which basically fell to bits.

I have now had a new manifold fabricated for it, and it will be mapped again.

It should spool earlier, and we are hoping for full boost by around 4400 rpm.

Estimating 530-550 bhp now.

Lots of sprints planned for the year and just needs APs.

All the best

Corky
I was just going to point out that the OBX manifold isn't going to last very long.

Nice car.
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Corky - glad to hear you're getting some decent figures out of it now - it was a good base, just needed some shakedown and development!

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