E5 MDS 4x4 saph re-build . . . for sale . . .
28-12-2006, 11:18 AM
#86
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Essex
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just spoke to Deflex where I got my bushes.
The rear beam mount bush in question is intended to be fitted so that the spacer is between the beam and the chassic and not under the beam. That said I was also told that the thin spacer bush (not the main cone shaped one) is not always required for all cars in the range.
With this in mind I quess it isn't really essential which way but in my opinion these polyurethene bushes are prone to squashing up so i'll be fitting the spacer above the cone as already done and keeping an eye on them as they seat in after so many miles.
I'm expecting the spacer top compress a little and hold the beam between it all but on that i could be wrong.
The rear beam mount bush in question is intended to be fitted so that the spacer is between the beam and the chassic and not under the beam. That said I was also told that the thin spacer bush (not the main cone shaped one) is not always required for all cars in the range.
With this in mind I quess it isn't really essential which way but in my opinion these polyurethene bushes are prone to squashing up so i'll be fitting the spacer above the cone as already done and keeping an eye on them as they seat in after so many miles.
I'm expecting the spacer top compress a little and hold the beam between it all but on that i could be wrong.
28-12-2006, 11:36 AM
#87
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 603
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
i saw your fiesta at the ford show havnt seen it aroud here tho mate, my cars hardly ever up your way or even town ,smart that fiesta i used to work at stanways i 
bet youve spent some there?
bet youve spent some there?
28-12-2006, 03:23 PM
#90
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
Just spoke to Deflex where I got my bushes.
The rear beam mount bush in question is intended to be fitted so that the spacer is between the beam and the chassic and not under the beam. That said I was also told that the thin spacer bush (not the main cone shaped one) is not always required for all cars in the range.
With this in mind I quess it isn't really essential which way but in my opinion these polyurethene bushes are prone to squashing up so i'll be fitting the spacer above the cone as already done and keeping an eye on them as they seat in after so many miles.
I'm expecting the spacer top compress a little and hold the beam between it all but on that i could be wrong.
The rear beam mount bush in question is intended to be fitted so that the spacer is between the beam and the chassic and not under the beam. That said I was also told that the thin spacer bush (not the main cone shaped one) is not always required for all cars in the range.
With this in mind I quess it isn't really essential which way but in my opinion these polyurethene bushes are prone to squashing up so i'll be fitting the spacer above the cone as already done and keeping an eye on them as they seat in after so many miles.
I'm expecting the spacer top compress a little and hold the beam between it all but on that i could be wrong.
the series 1s one of my mates hes stil on with it should be done in time for shows i hope!
28-12-2006, 03:26 PM
#91
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
craigos
yeah spent a bit there! fiesta dint cost mega money cos i managed to source most stuff 2nd hand. i work for in car electrical (white vans) done a bit of work for stanways as my boss knows raiford. i know the two mikes aswel! you work there long ago?
i saw your fiesta at the ford show havnt seen it aroud here tho
mate, my cars hardly ever up your way or even town ,smart that fiesta i used to work at stanways i bet youve spent some there?
mate, my cars hardly ever up your way or even town ,smart that fiesta i used to work at stanways i bet youve spent some there?
28-12-2006, 08:51 PM
#96
PassionFord Post Troll
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Shropshire.
Posts: 3,047
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by NEEDFORSPEED
kev - was there 2 bushes to go in each side? ie the coone one and one that sat underneath?
The way I looked at them was like this,the main bush which you press in has got some raised 'bobbles' on the top of it,what would you say these are for????????
Going against the chassis I reckon
The other flat/spacer bush has got a recess around the hole in the centre of the bush,if you look at the plate that bolts upto the beam it has got a raised part around the centre hole,which fits into the recess on the flat/spacer bush perfectly
Also if you have a look at Powerflex bushes(which I removed from my beam to have it powdercoated)they don't come with the flat/spacer bush,and the amount sticking out of the top of the beam is the same as the Deflex cone bush,but the Deflex is smaller on the underside of beam,so I reckon spacer goes there
I've had a full 4 wheel alignment check/set-up and nothings out,so mine will be staying like they are
28-12-2006, 08:56 PM
#97
PassionFord Post Troll
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Shropshire.
Posts: 3,047
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by NEEDFORSPEED
nice one, i didnt get that spacer bush in the kit so maybe its not needed for the 4x4??
Its in your pictures sitting on top of the main cone bush!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fitted these to my old 4x4 saph cos,came with that kit m8
29-12-2006, 11:12 AM
#98
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
no mate that bush is all 1!! they must of changed the design or summit and built it into 1 bush?! 
at least weve got to the bottom of it!!
at least weve got to the bottom of it!!
30-12-2006, 07:17 PM
#100
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Essex
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NEEDFORSPEED wrote:
kev - was there 2 bushes to go in each side? ie the coone one and one that sat underneath?
Yeah m8,the big cone one which you press in,and the flat one which I have got fitted between the plate and the beam
The way I looked at them was like this,the main bush which you press in has got some raised 'bobbles' on the top of it,what would you say these are for????????
Going against the chassis I reckon
The other flat/spacer bush has got a recess around the hole in the centre of the bush,if you look at the plate that bolts upto the beam it has got a raised part around the centre hole,which fits into the recess on the flat/spacer bush perfectly
Also if you have a look at Powerflex bushes(which I removed from my beam to have it powdercoated)they don't come with the flat/spacer bush,and the amount sticking out of the top of the beam is the same as the Deflex cone bush,but the Deflex is smaller on the underside of beam,so I reckon spacer goes there
I've had a full 4 wheel alignment check/set-up and nothings out,so mine will be staying like they are
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NEEDFORSPEED wrote:
kev - was there 2 bushes to go in each side? ie the coone one and one that sat underneath?
Yeah m8,the big cone one which you press in,and the flat one which I have got fitted between the plate and the beam
The way I looked at them was like this,the main bush which you press in has got some raised 'bobbles' on the top of it,what would you say these are for????????
Going against the chassis I reckon
The other flat/spacer bush has got a recess around the hole in the centre of the bush,if you look at the plate that bolts upto the beam it has got a raised part around the centre hole,which fits into the recess on the flat/spacer bush perfectly
Also if you have a look at Powerflex bushes(which I removed from my beam to have it powdercoated)they don't come with the flat/spacer bush,and the amount sticking out of the top of the beam is the same as the Deflex cone bush,but the Deflex is smaller on the underside of beam,so I reckon spacer goes there
I've had a full 4 wheel alignment check/set-up and nothings out,so mine will be staying like they are
I can see why you did it but i'm supprised it dont hit against the body when you nail it?
30-12-2006, 09:27 PM
#101
PassionFord Post Troll
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Shropshire.
Posts: 3,047
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Lee Fordham
I thought the bobbles on the cone bush locate into the beveled recess of the spacer bush. Seem right to me albeit i cant remember the bottom bit you mentioned?
I can see why you did it but i'm supprised it dont hit against the body when you nail it?
I can see why you did it but i'm supprised it dont hit against the body when you nail it?
And theres bobbles on the standard bush where it sits against chassis
Looking at the pic below of the standard bushes has made me even more sure I've fitted them correctly!!!!
The beam doesn't move hardly at all with poly bushes fitted,if you look at pic of standard bushes there is the same amount sticking out of the top of the beam as there is on mine with the Deflex bushes fitted
30-12-2006, 09:30 PM
#102
PassionFord Post Troll
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Shropshire.
Posts: 3,047
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by NEEDFORSPEED
no mate that bush is all 1!! they must of changed the design or summit and built it into 1 bush?! at least weve got to the bottom of it!!
at least weve got to the bottom of it!! Should separate into 2 pieces that bush m8
30-12-2006, 10:08 PM
#103
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
il look again tomo and i can understand what you guys are sayin but the bush is defo only in one piece and with it being a cone shape can only go in one way! help! il look tomo and let you know! cheers for replys and help!
help! il look tomo and let you know! cheers for replys and help!
31-12-2006, 12:14 AM
#104
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Essex
Posts: 87
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
CosKev
The bobbles are too far towards the outer edge of the bush to sit in that recess m8
And theres bobbles on the standard bush where it sits against chassis
Got any pics of the bottom bracket?
31-12-2006, 02:19 PM
#105
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
hi jus had another look and theres pretty much the same amount sticks out of the bottom as the top, and the bush will def only go in one way has anyone any idea if there design has changed for any reason? i cant see what reason for but. nightmare it will lower beam quite a bit!
05-01-2007, 12:22 PM
#106
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St Annes, Lancs
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
how do there mate
good thread just read it all i think i know that car from some else owned it round b/pool.
just one point is that you said you were making your own turbo damper, on a 4x4 manifold there not needed mate
good thread just read it all i think i know that car from some else owned it round b/pool.
just one point is that you said you were making your own turbo damper, on a 4x4 manifold there not needed mate
05-01-2007, 12:50 PM
#107
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
cheers mate. yeah i got it of my mate dez? dont really need one no but quite a lot of the exhaust side of the head has been helicoiled and theres stil alot of weight there so it will stil help alot. how you know dez then?
05-01-2007, 07:14 PM
#108
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
hi lewis heres an update just for you . . . moanin bast**d lol
boost guage just arrived today a real deal brand new of ebay 30 quid! its an electric boost guage with its own map sensor with peak recall and warning light (wnt be using this tho as the guage only goes up to 30psi but will look good lol
had a full set of these guages in my fiesta and they work perfect, fast/accurate so will be getting more. only thing is this is a big one, not the normal 52mm
boost guage just arrived today a real deal brand new of ebay 30 quid! its an electric boost guage with its own map sensor with peak recall and warning light (wnt be using this tho as the guage only goes up to 30psi but will look good lol
had a full set of these guages in my fiesta and they work perfect, fast/accurate so will be getting more. only thing is this is a big one, not the normal 52mm
06-01-2007, 04:03 PM
#110
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
i know not even sure if they do a 40psi one. will have to do tho, canwatch boost properly on boost controller anyway. just too cheap to pass up theyre bout 150Ł i think
07-01-2007, 02:40 PM
#114
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St Annes, Lancs
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A mate i work with (jon paul young) knows him plus gilby knows him as well plus i know of him seen his car a few times at stu & kenny's thats how i reckonised it 
I under stand the need for the damper now probably a good procaution
I under stand the need for the damper now probably a good procaution
07-01-2007, 03:05 PM
#115
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
lol small world good mates with gilbey was out with him n kate last night lol better to be safe than sorry i think and will hopefully look good too!
08-01-2007, 03:57 PM
#117
PassionFord Post Troll
Thread Starter
lived in ansdel all my life. gilbeys garage is in same ally as the back of my house. heard of hin n alot of my mates know him but i dont whats your full name?
09-01-2007, 07:20 AM
#118
PassionFord Regular
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: St Annes, Lancs
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
mine's Darren Thomas i would be surprised if you have heard of me but you may of seen my saph bnefore the engine dicided it did'nt want to play anymore!!