marky_g

how much of a pain was the conversion mate???? i have 90 H plate 3i was thinking about going down the ztec route,!!!!

what doner car did u use mk3 orion si 130psi???

i rely wanna get it done

marky_g

oh yer what kinda costs are involved?????

paconassa

bhp gains?
and driveability??

nice car mate

marky_g

its not work messin with mate get turbo conversion or zetec

Sally

looks nice

sexr3i

cost me 300 quid for a donor car, then i busted the lambda up and bought a K&N, that was all the cost involved, sold the wheels, stereo and shell off donor car too so didn't cost a lot all in. you could use the orion yeah but i found a rusted mk5 1.8 escort with full service history reasonable miles and snapped it up, took me about a week to do the conversion first time but I've done em in 3 days since.

basically, you have to mod the CVH top engine mount to line up with the zetec block bolt holes, just involves grinding abit off, cutting a bit off and re-welding it further round.

new engine bolts up to your box, altho you need a 105spec or efi cvh flywheel if you fit the 130spec lump.

the wiring is 2 relays and about 8-10 wires, just take the complete engine loom outta the donor car and you need to fuse the lambda, ecu and coil pack then re-build the part of the loom that would have gone thru the donor car's fuel pump and ignition relays, hook it up to ign live and perm live and it's all good.

coolant piping just needs either a hose reducer to get the cvh bottom rad hose to fit the bigger mouth on the zetec water pump, or use the zetec hose and put a t-peice in it for the extra hose. fuel feed and return, same as before, return on press. regulator end of fuel rail. Remove the EGR while you're at it, sleeve the zetec downpipe into your system and drive off

sexr3i

thanks

marky_g

Cool, sounds good I’d be starting with a EFI escort xr3i so I guess that would help with the ignition side being coil pack?

Are there any major problems u encountered other than the mount?????

I was thinking or using 130psi mk5 xr3i engine, donor car

GazzaG

sexr3i

I've done the conversion on efi and mfi cars and TBH it makes hardly any difference, you just get to keep your old ignition relay. You'll be ripping out all the efi management to make way for the zetec lot anyhoo.

If you use a 130spec lump you'll need to use your cvh efi flywheel, 105 ones are also compatible tho if you have any problems with yours. (you have to drill out the bolt holes a mm or so.)

I didn't have any real problems as such, just sorta made it up as I went along with the haynes manual for each car opened on wiring diagram pages. re-built the zetec loom in it's new home hooked up to my ignition, fuel pump and battery.

If you can weld then the mount is easy too, with both lumps out, cut the bottom hole off your cvh mount then bolt the top 2 up to the zetec block, bolt the one you cut off up to the bottom left hole in the block and use a bit of plate and plenty of weld to make it all one peice, grind back, paint and you've got a new mount.

sexr3i

oh, and an update on the car...

bought this lot a while ago...











and went to FITP and the pod





guess what these are off?



..........4x4 cosworth front and rear calipers. waiting for disks and pads to arrive then gota order a few more bits come payday.

JezSierra

get those s1 arches on,looking good pal

sexr3i

they're on mate, the light just never catches the mudflap type bits cos the car's black. you can never see em very well in pics cos they blend into the shape of the car so well. Loads better than the S2 kit IMO which looks like a bit of an afterthought. "just stick em onto the arch lips, it'll be alright."

marky_g

look good thats what i had planned for mine but i sold them in favour of the standard look

sexr3i

old setup

new setup

slight difference in size!

front fitted!

ordering rear bracket and handbrake cable on monday and will be getting the rears sorted asap.

bent the little spring clip on this side so gotta fix it before i drive it, shudn't take a minute though.

sexr3i

old rear setup



got me a load of new fancy bits!



started fitting em...



u can see how with the @mad for it@ kit you have to grind the corners off the bolts for the mounting brackets. but not all the way down, so it's still solid, and a socket still goes on.



20 mins later. lol. oine side done.



couldn't get one in red! ah well.



other side done and wheels back on.



relegated to the trash, drums suck!

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rich_frst

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rich_frst

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any updates mate??

i'm sure i already asked this on jano's site, but when you plumbed the loom in did you have to chop any of it out or add in bits from the car's original loom??

cheers mate

rich

Tarren

sexr3i

no real updates other than replacing the alternator wiring today as 17 yrs of heat from downpipe have internally cooked it and made it so brittle i snapped it off. lol

when wiring the zetec loom, you use it complete from the donor car, all you need to cut is the wires for lambda, ecu and coilpack feed, then you need to fuse them as per the haynes manual for the donor car, as your fusebox obviously won't have these. Then it's a matter of hooking up the yellow fuel pump relay and ignition relay from donor car to permanent live and ignition live in it's new home. hook up your rev counter, use your old oil press switch wire and temp guage needs earthing, then thats about it.

rich_frst

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i dont follow mate, why do you cut these wires out??

sexr3i

you don't cut them "out", you cut them to fuse them and splice them into your car loom.

rich_frst

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okey dokey

sexr3i

let us know if you have any trouble.

rich_frst

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will do cheers matey

sexr3i

red lockwoods.



zorst fannymould heatsheild.



Got a colour coded rear spoiler in paint too, will probly fit that in the week.

marky_g

gettin better and better should spray you cross over red looks a little out of place......just a thought

sexr3i

I reckon now I've gota couple of polished bits, I'll get a polished one and a polished inlet, was gona ditch em both to get TB's, but been lookin at super duperchargers now

marky_g

ooohhhhh nice

sexr3i

plus i might needa reversed crossover depending on the pipework i go for, so leaving it for now, gona strip a bit of it out over the winter and paint the bay etc i think.

Dutchie

Rs Baz

i want to do a zetec conversion on my xr3i that was going to be used
as a track day car but it looks like its to much f**king hassle to me
think i will give it a miss and scrap the shell instead

TrevCannon

s1 kit looks didnt notice at first like jez

UPDATE!!!

Here baz! lol what shell you got? 3dr mk4? what plate is it? im after a H plate

fezzajsy

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p-38-king

what top job and top bloke thanks for the pms and advice on my conversion and offering to helptop bloke
like the s1 arches on the s2 makes it look diffrent think imay keep mine as standard just slam it or maybe even put a bonus sticker on back lol will shock the saxo boys when i waste them lol need info on where to get them brake conversion kits and how much tho pm me if ya get chance

sexr3i

The brakes arent a kit, you can get the brackets from mad for it or oddkidds. then its just a full 4x4 cos rear setup, with mk5 rs2k h/brake cable rear section. Then the fronts are 4x4 calipers and pads with 2wd disks. the hoses are 2 sets of mk4 front braided hoses.

I bought uprated pads and disks brand new, but you could probly find the whole setup second hand from someone who is upgrading their cossy?

rich_frst

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any updates matey

sexr3i

nah, been too busy with other things to do anything on it. Still thinking about the supercharger conversion though.

rich_frst

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nice one mate