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Old 25-10-2019, 12:22 PM
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Default New fiesta ST V Escort Cosworth.

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Old 25-10-2019, 08:23 PM
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with 20 % transmisson loss and a dry track it doesnt surprise me that the fiesta won .i know which one i prefer lol
Old 27-10-2019, 09:18 AM
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3.5 seconde difference is quite a lot though. I don’t think the transmission loss is the problem. The suspension is probably the biggest problem, as the Cosworth’s is just not that great. It is way too soft (look at the amount of body roll) and has a lot of bump steer. And overall, the Fiesta ST is just a great handling car.
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Just simple progress. Better tyres, better suspension, better engine response and probably less weight too. Even in the wet I suspect the Fiesta would be every bit as quick. Traction in FWD cars isn't anything like the issue it once was, let's face it.

In reality, the Fiesta is better in every way. Faster, easier to live with etc etc, but obviously doesn't have the iconic status of the Escort. I'd happily have either, or both. Fiesta for every day, Cossie for the weekend.
Old 27-10-2019, 10:32 AM
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Lol put a snotter that never handled against possibly the best hot hatch fors have built seems a great idea lol. Lighter more agile modern .I would have that fezzy over a cossie for fun anytime
Old 27-10-2019, 03:14 PM
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It’s funny though that Fifth Gear did the exact same test when the Mk1 Focus RS came out. In that case it was actually slower than the EsCos by 1.5 seconds. And as far as I know the Focus RS was considered a good handling car at the time.

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Originally Posted by Jay,
Lol put a snotter that never handled against possibly the best hot hatch fors have built seems a great idea lol. Lighter more agile modern .I would have that fezzy over a cossie for fun anytime
Never handled? You mean the Escort?

Erm, I think quite a few people might disagree with you there
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Nah the escort is a great handling car. Granted the fiesta is very well sorted.
The difference is in my humble opinion is all in the tyres.
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I've just posted the first vid in general discussion.
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As said the escort cossie is such an iconic car. Give the escort some decent suspension then it might of had a better chance
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Just goes to show how things move forward.

Suspension,brakes,tyres and chassis being the big factors here.

Still I'd take the cossie 10/10 times.
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Tyres on their own can make a huge difference but not taking anything away from the fiesta, that makes it about 4.5s quicker than a mk1 rs also which is a highly regarded car. Shame the eco boost engine will no doubt be soft as shite.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Never handled? You mean the Escort?

Erm, I think quite a few people might disagree with you there
Most people with blinkers or owners wont pmsl but they pushed on understeer terrible and rolled around like a pissed up fat bird lol but I will say the best looking of the cossies
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Originally Posted by Jay,
.... and rolled around like a pissed up fat bird lol
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