Well today I fitted my 5000k H7r HID kit supplied to my by www.xenonsonline.com

It cost £34 and the kit was delivered the day after I ordered them.
They were very easy to fit, it took me less than 30minutes.

Ive taken pics with the lamps set at various heights.


Very pretty box


















Anyone thinking of buying a HID kit I strongly recommend Xenonsonline,
Although I chose the standard kit it comes with a full 12mth warranty and the Premium kits come with 24month warranty.


www.xenonsonline.com

0161 669 5829

 

There bright. Now dont be driving about with them on in the daylight.

 

That's beam pattern is scattered to fook, don't get me wrong I am sure they are better than standard but I bet they won't align properly at MOT time.

Always the problem with having them in a reflector type headlamp, the bulbs are far too intense so the light just scatters everywhere.

 

There not so bad, The camera seems to catch the beam more so.

The OE lights were awful.

Deffinately wont be driving with them on in the day time mate.

Going to an MOT station tomorrow to have the beam pattern checked.

 

....and dazzles every c#nt coming the other way

They won't have an acceptable MOT beam pattern..

If they do I will be very suprised.

 

MOT isn't a problem Rich I get it done in your neck of the woods in Melksham.

 

If they prove to be that bad tomorrow I will remove them but I have had them fitted in the past and never had an issue at MOT

 

Where abouts in Melksham do you go for your test?

If you fancy a winter project get yourself a spare pair of headlamps and retrofit a xenon projector unit into them.

 

I have a spare pair here at home, Are there any guides to retro fitting into non xenon units?

I normally use Riverside.

 

They are an MOT fail unless you have self levelling and headlight washers fitted.

 

they are a good lighting method for sure but very risky to add them on non projector headlights without the above mentioned criteria, and if mates with a MOT tester the there should be no bother really, but lost count of how many cars coming towards me have blinded me as a result of incorrect fitment

 

Had all my cars pass with HIDs retro fitted with neither of the what you mention.

Not saying they shouldn't fail but mine never have.

 

Over here EVOs that came with factory fitted Xenons fail as they don't have washers

They've really clamped down on HIDs in Northern Ireland.

 

I've heard about the Evo's before, Strange. How do the owners resolve the problem?

 

They have to botch washer jets on or fit halogen lights for MOT.

 

Wrong!!!

If there's no washers or self levelling system fitted, they can't be tested so can't be failed...

Aslong as the headlights are aligned properly and give the right pattern they'll pass the Mot with flying colours...

 

I was supprised aswell mate iv got these aswell not going back to oe thats for sure mines are 6k

 

As you say, the MOT rules state that vehicles with HID lights MAY have headlight washers, self levelling headlights or self levelling suspension fitted. If they are fitted, they must work. It doesn't say they must be fitted.

Aside from that, some self levelling suspension systems can't be tested to see if they work as they rely on the vehicle moving to pump the shock absorbers. The Nivomat system, as fitted to some Fords is just such a system. There is no requirement for a road test as part of the MOT, therefore this system can't be tested at MOT.

They could only get you on beam pattern come MOT time and that's only if the pattern is wrong.

 

Very interesting that. It does make sense though. How can you fail something if its not there.

 

Ive tested loads of hid kits that pass the beam pattern fine

 

I fit HID's to my saff.

They then used too much power and ate my battery, next thing you know it's miss firing, coughing and spluttering. So I took them of and refit H4 bulbs at side of road and she was like brand new again

 

HID makes nice and bright light, no doubt, but I would go for relais circuit with the new osram nightbreaker UNLIMITED.

 

Fit Hids and blind everyone

 

Wrong!!!!

I know plenty that have failed! MY friends MR Evo THAT HAD FACTORY FITTED XENONS failed due to not having washers/levelling.

Read the lighting section here

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...nges-2012.html

 

It says so they are generally fitted with.


HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high, so they are generally (if light output exceeds 2000 lumens) fitted in conjunction with headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. Where HID or LED dipped beam headlamps are fitted the tester will switch on the headlamps and check the operation of any headlamp levelling and cleaning devices fitted.

The car will fail if a headlamp levelling or cleaning device is inoperative or otherwise obviously defective.

 

no you are wrong, the wording from the mot test manual states:

. Vehicles equipped with High Intensity Discharge (HID) or LED dipped beam headlamps may be fitted with headlamp washers and a suspension or headlamp self levelling system. Where such systems are fitted, they must work; however, it is accepted that it may not be possible to readily determine the functioning of self levelling systems. In such cases, the benefit of the doubt must be given. Headlamp washers may work in conjunction with the windscreen washers (when the dipped beam headlamps are switched on) or by a separate switch. HID lamps may be identified by: · taking a few seconds to reach full intensity · having a bluish tinge to the light · having an igniter module/inverter behind the headlamp · having ‘DCR’ marked on the headlamp lens. HID headlamps use high voltage and extra care should be taken when inspecting these items.

check for your self. section 1.7

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s01000701.htm

 

They fail here all the time if they aren't fitted with levelling/washers. If you retrofit them, you must have those devices fitted (mainly the washers, I don't think they check/can check the levelling).

Unless the rules differ slightly here even though we are part of the UK

 

I hate retrofitted Hids but it doesn't say MUST be fitted.

Shame really

 

Well it's the case here that they must be fitted lol.

 

Been to my local mot station today and the beam pattern is acceptable. They where a little high which has been adjusted. I was told by the tester that he wouldn't have a problem passing the car with them fitted.

 

Get your facts right...

 

If the hid bulbs are fitted into a projector headlight there will be no issue with pattern, if the Mong fitting the bulb can't put a bulb in properly they'll be a pattern issue, standard bulb or hid...

 

True that, my E46 lights were shocking, funny cross-shape beam pattern, both bulbs were in upside down.

Daft bulb holders though that make you think that the bulbs should be a certain way.

 

Pretty certain my bulbs can only fit in one way so no danger of fitting them wrong.

 

I hate HIDs/Xenons with a passion. I even hate OEM Xenons.
Even cars that have them as standard seem to blind!
Only HIDs I think should be acceptable to fit to a car would be around the 3000k mark so they would appear yellow.
Friend of mine runs an old 5 series with HIDs and I used to abuse him for them. Thing is they are 3000K which are actually yellow. It's actually a pleasure to drive at night! Very bright, you can see things easier, they are easier on the eyes and they don't blind anyone!

 

If you're really worried about beam scatter, you can remove the headlights, prize the housings apart (heat in an oven for 20 mins or so to soften the glue to remove the lenses) and then sand and spray paint the reflector bowls a satin colour (most choose black, though satin silver or grey could work - I'd suggest black though on a black car like yours). This will cut down the scatter since there'll be less reflective surface to throw the light around

 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with xenon lights so long as the beam pattern and lights are set up correctly for them. The best ones are projector lenses - you can look directly at those without getting arc-eye, but they flood the road with more light than anything else. It's all about focus and beam direction.

 

What projectors give you is a nice focused cut off like this;



Rather than scatter, like this;

 

People don't locate them properly in the headlight, or can't get them to clip in so just wire them up and locate them in the hole sort of!!!

 

I've got a HID kit in my projector lamps on my mondeo, I'll get a pic tomorrow.