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Old 28-12-2012, 03:00 PM
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Im sure its a repost, but still quite interesting little video IMHO.

Old 28-12-2012, 03:16 PM
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Great vid.
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Great video! He seems to make it look a lot harder to drive than the likes of andy rouse, steve soper etc. Pity the like of gm kept complaining to get these banned as their astras, cavaliers couldn't touch them, would have been great to have seen them race for a few more years past 1990 as in Australia.
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Great vid
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nice car oh and also good movie D
Old 28-12-2012, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
Great video! He seems to make it look a lot harder to drive than the likes of andy rouse, steve soper etc. Pity the like of gm kept complaining to get these banned as their astras, cavaliers couldn't touch them, would have been great to have seen them race for a few more years past 1990 as in Australia.
I'm too young to remember the racing but I've read up on it loads, by all accounts nothing could keep up with them. M3's occasionally did alright but the sierras just dominated. Very cool considering you've all these manufacturers putting out the best racing engines ,suspension and brake set ups etc they can produce and just constantly being blitzed.

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Originally Posted by orionmojo
I'm too young to remember the racing but I've read up on it loads, by all accounts nothing could keep up with them. M3's occasionally did alright but the sierras just dominated. Very cool considering you've all these manufacturers putting out the best racing engines ,suspension and brake set ups etc they can produce and just constantly being blitzed.
It was the sheer power that made them dominant, it would have been far more interesting if the M3's had similar power
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Fair enough! But in that case why didn't they have similar power? Or Try harder to match it? It was the 80's. bolt on a turbo was the staple for the decade it seems!
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Very cool old vid.
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Originally Posted by orionmojo
Fair enough! But in that case why didn't they have similar power? Or Try harder to match it? It was the 80's. bolt on a turbo was the staple for the decade it seems!
You cant just bolt on a turbo, you have to homologate one first, and Ford were the only one that had done so at that stage, BMW couldnt just turn up for the 2nd race of the season with a turbo car, takes a long time to homologate a change including making and selling 500 of the cars etc!

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That's when touring cars were great to watch.....

Good vid.
Old 29-12-2012, 05:22 PM
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Good find chip. How wouldf an rs500 compare with a modern btcc car I wonder??
Old 29-12-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gjh
Good find chip. How wouldf an rs500 compare with a modern btcc car I wonder??
I'd imagine an old RS500 would murder a modern BTCC on power alone.
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Fucking love these vids.... When boost was boost ...!
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I thought i had bought a new car and didnt even know about it.............
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Ha ha you comic.
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Originally Posted by Sticky.
That's when touring cars were great to watch.....

Good vid.
Defo agree.
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
I'd imagine an old RS500 would murder a modern BTCC on power alone.
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Ye its mega impressive when it comes on boost, eats the straights.
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I'm sure on tighter circuits the new btcc cars are faster but on faster tracks the 500's murder them!
Strange about the homologation part as John cleland turned up for 1 event in 1989 with a rear wheel drive cavalier. So there must have been a way of bending the rules some how!
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Would imagine the newer stuff would catch up on the bends though. I'd much prefer the older option whatever the outcome though.
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Yeah much prefer the 500's the ultimate btcc car in my eyes! The newer stuff would be quicker for sure around the corners, andy rouse once said that his mk1 mondeo btcc cars were lapping quicker around brands hatch than the 500's.
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Originally Posted by lee2cossies
I'm sure on tighter circuits the new btcc cars are faster but on faster tracks the 500's murder them!
Strange about the homologation part as John cleland turned up for 1 event in 1989 with a rear wheel drive cavalier. So there must have been a way of bending the rules some how!
Iirc Was a 4wd based one so based on parts sold in massive numbers from the production line but with the front shafts removed and transfer box locked.
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New stuff would win in a race anywhere very twisty, tyre technology and suspension technology has come on a long way, speed down the straights though would mean the 500s would wipe the floor with them on a very open track.
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Cool, I didn't think of that forgot they made a 4x4 Gsi!
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Originally Posted by Chip
You cant just bolt on a turbo, you have to homologate one first, and Ford were the only one that had done so at that stage, BMW couldnt just turn up for the 2nd race of the season with a turbo car, takes a long time to homologate a change including making and selling 500 of the cars etc!
Of course! I forgot that bit
Old 30-12-2012, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gjh
Good find chip. How wouldf an rs500 compare with a modern btcc car I wonder??
Not even in the same league tbh but I'd rather watch the old stuff over the modern cars.
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