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Old 27-04-2010, 07:38 PM
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Default 1990 btcc with touring car saph

check out the saph at 9:10, didnt think they used them but looks awsome
Old 27-04-2010, 07:39 PM
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Where? Is it the Shell one?
Old 27-04-2010, 07:39 PM
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what channel
Old 27-04-2010, 07:53 PM
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Lets all imagine it!
Old 27-04-2010, 10:11 PM
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sorry, what a twat lol

http://www.youtube.com/user/sonarbel...10/4cyuNDyo_xs
Old 28-04-2010, 03:42 PM
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what a great video, if only it was that good now
Old 28-04-2010, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
what a great video, if only it was that good now
It certainly lacks "manufacturers" now. Some decent racing though.
Old 28-04-2010, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mk1trb
sorry, what a twat lol

Yep, you got that right....
Old 28-04-2010, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
what a great video, if only it was that good now
Agreed, not remotely interested in the current events
Old 28-04-2010, 03:53 PM
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Didn't realise the old T4 was pushing out 560 bhp in them.....
Old 28-04-2010, 05:29 PM
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Nice video. That youtube user has even more BTCC vids
Old 28-04-2010, 05:41 PM
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Awesome video, that saff looks the nuts too!
Damn those 500's where quick.
Old 28-04-2010, 05:44 PM
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I don't think the drivers of today could drive them like that. Proper driving there
Old 28-04-2010, 06:21 PM
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Quality top video, wish i had the chance to go see that. Still off to see WTCC when its at Brands.
Old 28-04-2010, 06:27 PM
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Nice video
Old 28-04-2010, 07:08 PM
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that vid is the reason i own a cosworth
Old 28-04-2010, 07:32 PM
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The road race round brum is just so good to watch, watch and watch, out of interest how do you think a top flight btcc or wtcc car would fare against the rs500.

Steve
Old 28-04-2010, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
I don't think the drivers of today could drive them like that. Proper driving there
Would have to disagree with that, it's the cars that have evolved, not the drivers. If the new breed had 500bhp rear wheel drive, they would soon adapt.

Gotta love them old videos though
Old 28-04-2010, 09:10 PM
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i love watchin old skool btcc alot better back in the day.

i heard some chatter 6.49 and 8.44
Old 29-04-2010, 07:37 AM
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Very good
Old 29-04-2010, 07:46 AM
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Old 29-04-2010, 10:42 AM
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I hadn't seen that race before, Rouse was properly on it! Touring cars were great to watch back then, I wish they could recreate that.
Old 29-04-2010, 10:45 AM
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fantastic video that was,
Old 29-04-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
The road race round brum is just so good to watch, watch and watch, out of interest how do you think a top flight btcc or wtcc car would fare against the rs500.

Steve
A current BTCC car would murder a RS500 round a circuit I believe.

As an example I think the Roger Clark Motorsport car and AG Focus are maybe a few seconds a lap quicker than a oldish touring car round certain cicuits and lets face it they are both FAR superior to a old Rs500 race car.

Its all to do with the grip
Old 29-04-2010, 03:05 PM
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Top vid i love it good old cossies.
Old 29-04-2010, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
A current BTCC car would murder a RS500 round a circuit I believe.

As an example I think the Roger Clark Motorsport car and AG Focus are maybe a few seconds a lap quicker than a oldish touring car round certain cicuits and lets face it they are both FAR superior to a old Rs500 race car.

Its all to do with the grip
but what is better to watch?
Old 29-04-2010, 09:05 PM
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Rallycross lol

Old touring cars rule, no doubt about that but just because the latest stuff is mostly fwd and low power ( in comparison ) the racing is still very tight and far from a one horse race.
Old 03-05-2010, 04:35 PM
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but to be fair without a ford in there who wants to watch it? lol
Old 03-05-2010, 06:23 PM
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I don't really care what cars are in it, its how the drivers get the most out of it that I enjoy. Same with the older clips, the RS500's were awesome bit the E30's are still an awesome car to watch and listen to, infact sound wise IMO they were the better sounding cars
Old 03-05-2010, 07:24 PM
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so that saph in that vid would it of been 500 odd horses?or was it competing against the 260hp bmws etc?
Old 03-05-2010, 07:39 PM
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I thought the BMW's were over the 300hp mark tbh, something like 325hp although when we were in Germany the ones in the museum apparently ran 375hp ! no idea what series they were raced in though.
Old 03-05-2010, 07:43 PM
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think they say 325s were over 300 odd but the 2.0 were 260 it does say through that 1st vid.
Old 03-05-2010, 07:51 PM
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I thought the E30's were 2.3 and 2.5, the latter being the big power one.

I haven't watched the whole of that clip but I know in one of them it does mention the Sytner car being over 300hp, no idea on capacity though.
Old 03-05-2010, 08:03 PM
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Awsome vid :dd:
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Originally Posted by rs_traynor
i heard some chatter 6.49 and 8.44
Really?

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Old 03-05-2010, 08:31 PM
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Those Cossies were shiftin !
Old 03-05-2010, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginge
Really?

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Ah the original "wastegate chatter"
Old 03-05-2010, 09:27 PM
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great vid
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Great old vidoes. I remember going to the birmingham superprix, racing throught the streets. One of the support races was the touring cars. Think there were about 8 RS500's been raced. They sounded awesome on full chat. Robb Gravett, Andy Rouse, Larence Bristow and the legend Tim Harvey, were just a few of the then top drivers
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