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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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So the issue is that Mark was mentioning his own results in there?

(genuine question, as im assuming his customers are allowed to talk about their cars ok, its just mark that cant as that is then him advertising?)
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Alot of people were asking about prices and he didnt answer, looked like he was being pretty fair really, just talking tech.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by simon170
Alot of people were asking about prices and he didnt answer, looked like he was being pretty fair really, just talking tech.
thats the brilliant thing about pm's
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by simon170
Alot of people were asking about prices and he didnt answer, looked like he was being pretty fair really, just talking tech.
Exactly my understanding too TBH

But at the same time, talking about services you provide is potentially advertising of course.

Fucking sad day for the site IMHO if the advertising rules have got to the stage where tuners arent allowed to talk techy about what they've done anymore
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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So just for clarificastion. Am i allowed to post a graph of my rolling road power run when i get it and is Mark allowed to comment on it?
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
thats the brilliant thing about pm's
and you would know of course seeing as you have been banned for advertising
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
thats the brilliant thing about pm's
Jim ffs you REALLY dont help yourself do you?

Rich - honey you can post whatever you want about your car. And to a certain degree Mark can comment... if he wishes to comment in full then he can pay his traders fee to do so.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
and you would know of course seeing as you have been banned for advertising
im very experienced in it

i agree with chip here . . . boycott anyone ?
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by maria
Jim ffs you REALLY dont help yourself do you?

Rich - honey you can post whatever you want about your car. And to a certain degree Mark can comment... if he wishes to comment in full then he can pay his traders fee to do so.
i wasnt saying i have traded via pm
dont ban me !!

ps: pleeeeeeeease
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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crack on jim. i'll ban you before you get a chance to boycott!

or simply get daddy to pay traders fees for you and you can drum up as much business as you want.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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Ta Maria. I will ne sure to let Mark know as im not having my 7 pages thread deleted
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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pics pics pics please love capris especially 180 mph one
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Originally Posted by maria
crack on jim. i'll ban you before you get a chance to boycott!

or simply get daddy to pay traders fees for you and you can drum up as much business as you want.
i swear ta god stop saying daddy ffs its so annoying
and if i want anything i pay for it myself for reference ....
i dont go to "daddy"
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
i wasnt saying i have traded via pm
dont ban me !!

ps: pleeeeeeeease

Ban him, pweeeeeeeeeese.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Leeeroy
Ban him, pweeeeeeeeeese.
fook off you im in a shit mood now i hope you feel bad Maria
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
i swear ta god stop saying daddy ffs its so annoying
and if i want anything i pay for it myself for reference ....
i dont go to "daddy"

Well stop titting about then by 'insinuating' that you 'may' trade by pm and we wont have to will we
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Exactly my understanding too TBH

But at the same time, talking about services you provide is potentially advertising of course.

Fucking sad day for the site IMHO if the advertising rules have got to the stage where tuners arent allowed to talk techy about what they've done anymore
Seconded.

Seems a bit like people are being pushed to pay.

(not aimed at you Maria)
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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J1mbo posts "we do this" and "we've done that" ALL the fucking time, so unless his dad coughs up, Id imagine about half his posts will be gone from now on

Like the other day someone was asking him if T6 can run 5 cylinders and he was saying how yes no problem at all they could sort that out etc

Its going to be a real shame if those sort of half technical / half sales, posts are banned by Tony / Mark / Karl / Jimbo / Harvey

And I really do mean a REAL shame, the BEST thing that PF has ever had to offer is so many experts prepared to give out info IMHO, if its left down to just stu and martin, who appear to be the only people paid up with much real techy knowledge, its going to be a pretty sparsely populated site in terms of expert input, as both them obviously have a lot on their plates away from this forum which are a lot more important, so wont possibly be able to step up their amount of posting enough to compensate for all the posts lost by banning all the others from mentioning anything that is in anyway related to a service or product they provide

I just hope I have misinterpreted what the new rules are!
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
i swear ta god stop saying daddy ffs its so annoying
and if i want anything i pay for it myself for reference ....
i dont go to "daddy"

You bite waaaaay too easy.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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you are joking

a thread has been removed because a tuner was talking interesting technical stuff
that's what most of us are here for to learn, so what's this site all about now then money making
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Originally Posted by maria
Well stop titting about then by 'insinuating' that you 'may' trade by pm and we wont have to will we
i was jokingly "insinuating" that mark can/was trading by pm
(jokingly the main word there MADette's )
this had nothing to do with what i have/havnt done
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CossieRich
Ta Maria. I will ne sure to let Mark know as im not having my 7 pages thread deleted
No way mark will pay up on here, it woudlnt ever be worth it for him, not with the sort of work he does, and the amount of backlog he normally has anyway, its not like he needs to tout for business.

for people like mike / martin / stu who sell loads of parts mail order as a large part of their business (well as ALL of their business in mikes case) im sure PF advertising is worth a fortune, but for someone like Tony or Mark, its not worth anywhere near what it costs im sure, so I really cant see either ever paying it.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:27 PM
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
J1mbo posts "we do this" and "we've done that" ALL the fucking time, so unless his dad coughs up, Id imagine about half his posts will be gone from now on

Like the other day someone was asking him if T6 can run 5 cylinders and he was saying how yes no problem at all they could sort that out etc

Its going to be a real shame if those sort of half technical / half sales, posts are banned by Tony / Mark / Karl / Jimbo / Harvey

And I really do mean a REAL shame, the BEST thing that PF has ever had to offer is so many experts prepared to give out info IMHO, if its left down to just stu and martin, who appear to be the only people paid up with much real techy knowledge, its going to be a pretty sparsely populated site in terms of expert input, as both them obviously have a lot on their plates away from this forum which are a lot more important, so wont possibly be able to step up their amount of posting enough to compensate for all the posts lost by banning all the others from mentioning anything that is in anyway related to a service or product they provide

I just hope I have misinterpreted what the new rules are!
i agree there chip i do try as much as possible to help people out . . .
and i explain the way the old fella does things and this i hope gives people the idea of what could be the best way to do something

since my ban i have learnt that i most deffinately cannot trade on here and will not the so called trading posts chip are technical advise just like what mark shead was giving before it was deleted which i disagree with along with nearly everyone else


edit: leeroy, i know
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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J1mbo, I can see a LOT of people not liking the fact that many of this forum's most valuable assets and best sources of info are going to be silenced will agree with you.

In fact everyone who uses this site as a reference site for ford enthusiasts, which of course PREVIOUSLY was its purpose.

Its purpose now, of course, im not being slanderous here, just purely accurate, is to generate the maximum possible return for share holders of internet brands, THAT comes first, ford reference information, HAS to come second.

I knew that when IB took over of course, but I greatly underestimated how much so.
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So does this mean that if anyone starts a 'Big up (insert tuner name here)' thread & that tuner isn't a paid trader on here the thread will get binned?
(genuine question btw)
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Originally Posted by Chip
Its purpose now, of course, im not being slanderous here, just purely accurate, is to generate the maximum possible return for share holders of internet brands, THAT comes first, ford reference information, HAS to come second.

I knew that when IB took over of course, but I greatly underestimated how much so.
Big business wins another one....

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AJ - no honey.
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So does this mean that if anyone starts a 'Big up (insert tuner name here)' thread & that tuner isn't a paid trader on here the thread will get binned?
(genuine question btw)

No, only once the "evil advert stealing trader" posts themself

My interpretation from whats been said is it would go like so:

Dingy: Big up to karl, my car is going like a rocket ship now, nice one
Mod: that is fine
Chip: What did you do to it then dingy/karl?
Mod: this thread is still great
Karl: I took a bit of excess fuel out the top of the map, raising the AFR from high 11s to low 12s, which picked up a bit of torque
Mod: BIN!



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Originally Posted by maria
AJ - no honey.
why?
what if the tuner posts on it ?
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Originally Posted by maria
AJ - no honey.
Cool

BUT if an unpaid tuner mentions the services he offers in any shape or form then that will get binned?
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j1mbo/AJ, see above for my interpretation of the rules.


Maria can you confirm on my example if that is correct?
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Chip - just read it

Hopefully a mod will be able to answer that for us so we know where everyone stands
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Originally Posted by Chip
No, only once the "evil advert stealing trader" posts themself

My interpretation from whats been said is it would go like so:

Dingy: Big up to karl, my car is going like a rocket ship now, nice one
Mod: that is fine
Chip: What did you do to it then dingy/karl?
Mod: this thread is still great
Karl: I took a bit of excess fuel out the top of the map, raising the AFR from high 11s to low 12s, which picked up a bit of torque
Mod: BIN!




That's not strictly true, there have been loads of threads on MAD YUM and Rod's progress which weren't binned even though Mark was commenting on them.
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Originally Posted by Chip
j1mbo/AJ, see above for my interpretation of the rules.


Maria can you confirm on my example if that is correct?
seems about right
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Rules are getting a bit strickt even by my standards...

As for trading - if the price was right there wuold be many more traders on here!
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Chip - youve pretty much got it, but its all about traders doing things to excess.

SO if its the occasional post, then its not really an issue, but if a tuner is continuosly posting about the services he can offer, then its only fair they become a proper trader!
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Originally Posted by Leeeroy
That's not strictly true, there have been loads of threads on MAD YUM and Rod's progress which weren't binned even though Mark was commenting on them.
That was before.

This is now.
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Originally Posted by maria
Chip - youve pretty much got it, but its all about traders doing things to excess.

SO if its the occasional post, then its not really an issue, but if a tuner is continuosly posting about the services he can offer, then its only fair they become a proper trader!
Mark posts apparently a whopping: 1.12 posts per day

Seems hard to believe he posts anything "to excess"
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If all these tuners make nothing from the site and gain no custom meaning it's not worth them paying traders then why do they spend soooo much time on here, surely they would be busy elseware
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