The final nail in the coffin for me and PF
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The final nail in the coffin for me and PF
Oh well, looks like for a few of you, christmas has come early.
Unfortunately, the whole traders/usernames situation is genuinely
making me very sad.
I have just had the final message from the webteam saying I have to change
my user name in 48 hours or else.
I really do not mean to be difficult but I do not want my user name changed.
So therfore, it looks like I will not be around here any more after this week.
I appreciate that this site is bigger than little old me but where is all this
going to end ?
Even now I am confused by all the user names changes and I am sure I am
not alone in that.
I can see that rules must apply to everyone but I really dont make a penny
out of this website since I stopped being an official trader 2 years ago.
It would seem to keep a handfull of people happy (namely some of the traders)
a fuck load of trouble for genuine enthusiasts like myself is all I am
entitled to after being on this site since it all started and helping out.
Ok, I have pissed a few people off but I really do believe I have helped
more people out than I have upset and still have much to offer.
For the record,
I dont sell ecu's any more so I dont compete with others on that front.
I sell a small amount of ecu monitors as this business barely breaks even now
ECU monitors are sold only through PF official traders and I always direct enquires
to theses people only.
To my knowledge, this competes with no one else as my monitor products
are unique.
I suppose I am clutching at straws here in the vain hope for a last
minute reprieve but in reality I now know its pointless.
As for the new tech advisors set up, I think its a scheme asking for
trouble. I think PF works fine the way it is.
Perhaps a few more moderators to keep check on the bedroom traders ....????
I know it costs money to run this site in terms of computer hardware
and high speed data links but the site is for enthusiasts run by enthusiasts
and to me, the real enthusiasts like myself are being pushed out the door.
Finally, I appologise to Stu for being a difficult cunt here but I must
make a stand on this. I dont hold it against you personally.
For those who care - I thank you.
For the whinging traders - Dont forget, most people are here NOT to make money.
For all the inevitable piss takers - I dont give a shit what you think
and never have done.
Unfortunately, the whole traders/usernames situation is genuinely
making me very sad.
I have just had the final message from the webteam saying I have to change
my user name in 48 hours or else.
I really do not mean to be difficult but I do not want my user name changed.
So therfore, it looks like I will not be around here any more after this week.
I appreciate that this site is bigger than little old me but where is all this
going to end ?
Even now I am confused by all the user names changes and I am sure I am
not alone in that.
I can see that rules must apply to everyone but I really dont make a penny
out of this website since I stopped being an official trader 2 years ago.
It would seem to keep a handfull of people happy (namely some of the traders)
a fuck load of trouble for genuine enthusiasts like myself is all I am
entitled to after being on this site since it all started and helping out.
Ok, I have pissed a few people off but I really do believe I have helped
more people out than I have upset and still have much to offer.
For the record,
I dont sell ecu's any more so I dont compete with others on that front.
I sell a small amount of ecu monitors as this business barely breaks even now
ECU monitors are sold only through PF official traders and I always direct enquires
to theses people only.
To my knowledge, this competes with no one else as my monitor products
are unique.
I suppose I am clutching at straws here in the vain hope for a last
minute reprieve but in reality I now know its pointless.
As for the new tech advisors set up, I think its a scheme asking for
trouble. I think PF works fine the way it is.
Perhaps a few more moderators to keep check on the bedroom traders ....????
I know it costs money to run this site in terms of computer hardware
and high speed data links but the site is for enthusiasts run by enthusiasts
and to me, the real enthusiasts like myself are being pushed out the door.
Finally, I appologise to Stu for being a difficult cunt here but I must
make a stand on this. I dont hold it against you personally.
For those who care - I thank you.
For the whinging traders - Dont forget, most people are here NOT to make money.
For all the inevitable piss takers - I dont give a shit what you think
and never have done.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Indeed, change it to SECCS or something, then its got fuck all to do with a business that it so happens you used to run
If one is to enforce rules as strictly as they are currenlty being enforced, then they must be enforced absolutely - no matter which side of the line that they may fall.
The mods are asking him to change his name because the minority see it as an unfair bias.
To be frank, I dont know Phils relationship with Bosch parts - is he still selling bosch parts? If not, then same applies. He should be reinstated to his well known name.
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This site i becoming too big for its boots IMO...
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
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Originally Posted by glancy2081
so are the traders going to try and put a stop to gold members selling things in for sale section,or ebay adds etc,
that will be the next step
and simon stay mate dont let people push you out
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pon, whenever secs makes a post is usually yum and helen tag teaming lol, but tonight dave was not taking the piss, only you
it would be a lot quieter round here if si left, you for one wouldnt have much to say
and tbh, i dont why you would really be expecting me to reply to one of si's posts, its not that often that i do!
it would be a lot quieter round here if si left, you for one wouldnt have much to say
and tbh, i dont why you would really be expecting me to reply to one of si's posts, its not that often that i do!
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This site i becoming too big for its boots IMO...
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I always thought this site was created by people for people who had a passion for all things ford !
Not for a few greedy traders who think just cos they pay Ł200 a year , they are the be all and end all of Passionford
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Like the grand goodbye.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
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Like the grand goodbye.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by Rhys
Like the grand goodbye.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by Rhys
Like the grand goodbye.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
Havent read all the PF politics latly as been to busy..... but i dunno seem going way out of order. hence why im cutting down in coming on here etc.
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Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
This site i becoming too big for its boots IMO...
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I always thought this site was created by people for people who had a passion for all things ford !
Not for a few greedy traders who think just cos they pay Ł200 a year , they are the be all and end all of Passionford
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
This site i becoming too big for its boots IMO...
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I always thought this site was created by people for people who had a passion for all things ford !
Not for a few greedy traders who think just cos they pay Ł200 a year , they are the be all and end all of Passionford
As such the Traders have led to SECS leaving
JJ
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Originally Posted by Deano
Originally Posted by rapidcossie
This site i becoming too big for its boots IMO...
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I havent read the thread about user names as i think its all a bit silly.
surley folks can call themselves what they like?
I always thought this site was created by people for people who had a passion for all things ford !
Not for a few greedy traders who think just cos they pay Ł200 a year , they are the be all and end all of Passionford
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Re: The final nail in the coffin for me and PF
I've put it back because some of you saw it and the post don't make sense otherwise.
It would seem to keep a handfull of people happy (namely some of the traders)
a fuck load of trouble for genuine enthusiasts like myself is all I am
entitled to after being on this site since it all started and helping out.
Ok, I have pissed a few people off but I really do believe I have helped
more people out than I have upset and still have much to offer.
I know it costs money to run this site in terms of computer hardware
and high speed data links but the site is for enthusiasts run by enthusiasts
and to me, the real enthusiasts like myself are being pushed out the door.
For the whinging traders - Dont forget, most people are here NOT to make money.
For all the inevitable piss takers - I dont give a shit what you think
and never have done.
I wasn't gonna get involved but because your getting a mardy and doing the off I would like to say -
You keep saying about whinging traders don't you think it has something to do with encouraging companys to pay the fees to trade on the board which in turn helps Pet upgrade the servers to keep the speed of the site up as it grows?
If companys know they can get away with subscribing with their company name and they know people will contact them for parts why should they bother paying? as companys are out to make money not pay subs if they don't need to.
and how many posts from gold members and non members are on here AND the RSOC board when the this board goes down for upgrades "whinging" about the down time when most of the time is for 2/3hrs at a go.
Gold members pay Ł20 per year divide that per day then per hour and you recon your not getting your moneys worth and I remember a poll about "is it worth Ł20" we pay 10x's that and you don't see the traders "whinging" about the downtime.
Whatever you want to think the board has to pay for itself otherwise it won't exist as why should Pet put up with the grief and keep putting his hand in his pocket.
The other day I saw you getting all arsey with Jano about allegedly copying something you designed should I say stop whinging part of life?? No I wouldn't because you have spent you time and money developing something and somebody else has got it for nothing.
Really us old traders are gonna get a raw deal because of the new rules because before the rule change IF I decide not to pay the fees this year my name would stay the same but now it will be changed.
This rule should have been implemented at the start but PassionFord is a victim of its own success as its a good advertising tool and a wealth of information.
this isn't meant to be a slagging, its meant to point out that its not personal.
Now come on enjoy the board as a user as you say you are and not a company which say your not.
I don't want to get drawn in a big argument.
Originally Posted by SECS
It would seem to keep a handfull of people happy (namely some of the traders)
a fuck load of trouble for genuine enthusiasts like myself is all I am
entitled to after being on this site since it all started and helping out.
Ok, I have pissed a few people off but I really do believe I have helped
more people out than I have upset and still have much to offer.
I know it costs money to run this site in terms of computer hardware
and high speed data links but the site is for enthusiasts run by enthusiasts
and to me, the real enthusiasts like myself are being pushed out the door.
For the whinging traders - Dont forget, most people are here NOT to make money.
For all the inevitable piss takers - I dont give a shit what you think
and never have done.
You keep saying about whinging traders don't you think it has something to do with encouraging companys to pay the fees to trade on the board which in turn helps Pet upgrade the servers to keep the speed of the site up as it grows?
If companys know they can get away with subscribing with their company name and they know people will contact them for parts why should they bother paying? as companys are out to make money not pay subs if they don't need to.
and how many posts from gold members and non members are on here AND the RSOC board when the this board goes down for upgrades "whinging" about the down time when most of the time is for 2/3hrs at a go.
Gold members pay Ł20 per year divide that per day then per hour and you recon your not getting your moneys worth and I remember a poll about "is it worth Ł20" we pay 10x's that and you don't see the traders "whinging" about the downtime.
Whatever you want to think the board has to pay for itself otherwise it won't exist as why should Pet put up with the grief and keep putting his hand in his pocket.
The other day I saw you getting all arsey with Jano about allegedly copying something you designed should I say stop whinging part of life?? No I wouldn't because you have spent you time and money developing something and somebody else has got it for nothing.
Really us old traders are gonna get a raw deal because of the new rules because before the rule change IF I decide not to pay the fees this year my name would stay the same but now it will be changed.
This rule should have been implemented at the start but PassionFord is a victim of its own success as its a good advertising tool and a wealth of information.
this isn't meant to be a slagging, its meant to point out that its not personal.
Now come on enjoy the board as a user as you say you are and not a company which say your not.
I don't want to get drawn in a big argument.
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At the end of the day, Passionford influences a major number of RS/Cosworth enthusiasts. Saying that, if someone said I need a SECS monitor or whatever they are I would go directly to him rather than using anyone else. If I didn't use Passionford, I would go directly to him, it is our choice whether to use him or not isn't it? Why would I want to pay more from a trader who pays Ł200 a year to sell stuff on here? Or doesn't have warranty, etc. etc. etc.
You can't stop the freedom to choose who the hell I want. Nor can you bully people into buying from traders who have paid their money.
As far as I'm concerned everyone will know who they are when they register their new names and everyone will continue using them.
I agree that if someone is selling a product on passionford directly then they should pay. If they no longer are a company and are selling them quietly through PM's who are you to stop them? The person contacted them to buy something that they make. Not any other trader, happens to be life I'm afraid. A nanny Passionford will make things worse.
Who cares what his name is.
You can't stop the freedom to choose who the hell I want. Nor can you bully people into buying from traders who have paid their money.
As far as I'm concerned everyone will know who they are when they register their new names and everyone will continue using them.
I agree that if someone is selling a product on passionford directly then they should pay. If they no longer are a company and are selling them quietly through PM's who are you to stop them? The person contacted them to buy something that they make. Not any other trader, happens to be life I'm afraid. A nanny Passionford will make things worse.
Who cares what his name is.
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This rule is now active on 90% of the big car related forums on the net
THEY ARE ALL DOING IT ,,
I was told on scoobynet that i coulnt have my user name , and i dont deal in scoobys
I was pissed at the way i was simply banned and not given a simple pm etc to explain ,,but was quite happy to change it and still use the site
The net is now the biggest advertising method in the world and like everything in life you get nothing for free , and why should you ,
Its a simple move with the times action thats happening everywher , so as i see it , you pay or you change ,,I paid
Paul
THEY ARE ALL DOING IT ,,
I was told on scoobynet that i coulnt have my user name , and i dont deal in scoobys
I was pissed at the way i was simply banned and not given a simple pm etc to explain ,,but was quite happy to change it and still use the site
The net is now the biggest advertising method in the world and like everything in life you get nothing for free , and why should you ,
Its a simple move with the times action thats happening everywher , so as i see it , you pay or you change ,,I paid
Paul
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Whilst I dont necessarily disagree with your points, Dan, it doesnt change the fact that Simon is being asked to change a user name that represents a business that is no more!
As such, he should not be affected by the new ruling. This is the point.
As such, he should not be affected by the new ruling. This is the point.
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20 quid contribution to keep passionford up and running was the initial scheme. Fair do's......
Now cos traders pay 200 quid a year (whoop de doo) they seem to be running the shop all of a sudden. Been like this months now and its no good..
IMO if this is what PF is going to be like from now on i reckon they should fook the trader idea off all together and just have a chat bb for ford enthusiats.,,,oh thats what its supposed to be
20 quid contribution to keep passionford up and running was the initial scheme. Fair do's......
Now cos traders pay 200 quid a year (whoop de doo) they seem to be running the shop all of a sudden. Been like this months now and its no good..
IMO if this is what PF is going to be like from now on i reckon they should fook the trader idea off all together and just have a chat bb for ford enthusiats.,,,oh thats what its supposed to be
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Whilst I dont necessarily disagree with your points, Dan, it doesnt change the fact that Simon is being asked to change a user name that represents a business that is no more!
As such, he should not be affected by the new ruling. This is the point.
As such, he should not be affected by the new ruling. This is the point.