Yamaha R6 As A First Bike... Bad Idea?
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i had 2 GSXR's before moving to an R1, which is twice the build quality of a Suzuki imo, but for a first time rider i would suggest a gsxr or honda, alot more forgiving on the road and cheaper all round. R6 is ment for the track tbh.
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I had a GSXR 750 as my first bike, my mate bought a blade and my other work mate bought an R1 as his, none of us have died, - you dont have to use all the power all the timeyou can be killed at 30mph on anything. obviously if you struggle with self control I recommend doing track days only as you wont last long on the road riding like a tit
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Now i aint saying your mates cant ride however there are loads of people out there on the roads with litre bikes that cant ride for shit as there scared shitless of the power and cant use 50% of the power. The only reason they buy litre bikes is becasue of the bragging rights in the pub and in all honesty these people would be way quicker on a 600, i know a lad who had a 600 bandit as his frst bike then started running his mouth about "600's are shit not fast enough" he went out and bought a gsxr 750 and couldnt get it to go round corners as he was scared to lean it over. Was funny as fuck riding behind him watching him corner hanging off the bike tying to get his knee down with a 10 degree lean on at 50mph on a 120mph sweeping bend lol
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I agree, very true regarding 1000's! Id say the vast majority would be quicker on a 600/750 on the road. ive been test riding a few different bikes lately, and if you want to go quick and have fun then get a 600/750, and if you want to ride lazy and show off that you have the most powerful bike, then get a 1000. In my opinion of course.
Ps yes all my rear tyre is used and my sliders are scuffed to fuck lol
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well this has been quite an interesting read.
I guess it all boils down to what you are looking to achieve out of all of this, if you just want a nice bike and want to spend more time looking at it, cleaning it, and showing it off around town, then get the latest sports bike.
If, however, you actually want to learn how to be a good, safe, fast rider then, depending on how tall you are, you should probably think about getting a 400 sports bike instead of a 600.
If you do have hip problems, and I know nothing of that, only what I have read on here, then you might want to consider how it will be getting your leg over the bike, as these 600's and thou's tend to have quite high tail units.
And as someone else has mentioned, you are more likely to drop the thing whilst trying to move it around, then when you are actually on it.
I started with an Aprilia RS125, then went onto a GSXR400 and then onto a tuned GSXR750. They where good steps to take, but I would skip the 125. The 400's have 60bhp, which doesnt sound like a lot, but is the same as a bandit 6, and still good for a mid 3 second 0 - 60 time, and a top speed of 130mph. They dont have wallops of power, so you can be a bit ham fisted to begin with, without paying the price.
400's will teach you about corner speeds and using the gears properly, you can learn to get your knee down, do wheelies and stoppies and all that malarky, without fear of hurting yourself to much.
Once you have mastered that, then step up to a 600, you will be a much better rider for the experience.
and if you are having problems with riding positions, then you can get aftermarket clip ons and rear sets, and find a riding position that suits you best.
The insurance would be much easier on a 400 too, your choices are
Honda vfr400 (nc30)
Honda cbr400 (nc29)
Kawazaki zxr400
Suzuki GSXR400 (gk76a)
Yamaha FZR400
All can be picked up for no more than Ł1500
and if you want something a little more trick, then honda sell an rvf400, which is funky looking, and if you look up tyga bodywork, there are all sorts of trick bodykits you can get for the bikes to make them look pin sharp.
good luck with your search
Rich
I guess it all boils down to what you are looking to achieve out of all of this, if you just want a nice bike and want to spend more time looking at it, cleaning it, and showing it off around town, then get the latest sports bike.
If, however, you actually want to learn how to be a good, safe, fast rider then, depending on how tall you are, you should probably think about getting a 400 sports bike instead of a 600.
If you do have hip problems, and I know nothing of that, only what I have read on here, then you might want to consider how it will be getting your leg over the bike, as these 600's and thou's tend to have quite high tail units.
And as someone else has mentioned, you are more likely to drop the thing whilst trying to move it around, then when you are actually on it.
I started with an Aprilia RS125, then went onto a GSXR400 and then onto a tuned GSXR750. They where good steps to take, but I would skip the 125. The 400's have 60bhp, which doesnt sound like a lot, but is the same as a bandit 6, and still good for a mid 3 second 0 - 60 time, and a top speed of 130mph. They dont have wallops of power, so you can be a bit ham fisted to begin with, without paying the price.
400's will teach you about corner speeds and using the gears properly, you can learn to get your knee down, do wheelies and stoppies and all that malarky, without fear of hurting yourself to much.
Once you have mastered that, then step up to a 600, you will be a much better rider for the experience.
and if you are having problems with riding positions, then you can get aftermarket clip ons and rear sets, and find a riding position that suits you best.
The insurance would be much easier on a 400 too, your choices are
Honda vfr400 (nc30)
Honda cbr400 (nc29)
Kawazaki zxr400
Suzuki GSXR400 (gk76a)
Yamaha FZR400
All can be picked up for no more than Ł1500
and if you want something a little more trick, then honda sell an rvf400, which is funky looking, and if you look up tyga bodywork, there are all sorts of trick bodykits you can get for the bikes to make them look pin sharp.
good luck with your search
Rich
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I'm not after a bike at this very moment as I can't afford one. Circumstances change any time soon and then I'll be on the hunt. There are no decent bike shops in Liverpool, not one! Anyway, a friend of my Dads has a Honda Pan European ST1300, and I've been out with him today to see if I agreed with him and others I'd be better on a tourer! His bike is fantastic, and I do like it. But It's not what I'm after.
He needs some bits for his bike in Chester, where there is a fantastic bike shop, so I'm going with him.
Benni.
He needs some bits for his bike in Chester, where there is a fantastic bike shop, so I'm going with him.
Benni.
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I thought my R6 was shite to ride compared to my Duke 748, imo the old GSXR 600 SRAD rode better! One thing for sure the R6 is designed for midgets
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