Alps Pacino

A few of me mates are trying to persuade me to go to the ring next year and tbh all i have heard are horror stories of people falling off and cars knocking people off. These small issues of germans in porkas driving like lunatics and the fact a few of me mates are going with the view of going flat out which wouldnt be a bad thing apart from they havent got the tallent to go fast round the ring and its a 99% certainly 1 certain individual will be having a nasty off.

So has anyone been and is it bad or worth a go?

The DIVA

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Absolutely lethal mate, i`ve been riding 33 years including 6 years of competitive racing and i wouldn`t go near the place on two wheels....

There is no run off ANYWHERE so if you make a mistake it`s almost guaranteed to be a big one, that coupled to the fact that the cars are faster pretty much everywhere and it`s a no brainer...

A track day is much much safer and more enjoyable

BlackRs

I went last year which was the first time Ive been on a track of any sort. To be honest I thought it was brilliant. Hes right in saying there aint any run offs at all & you do get certain people driving like absolute *unts, but if you stay reasonably sensible then you should have no worries. I can understand where the diva is coming from & to be honest hes got 30 years more riding experience than I have but purely on my experience alone, I had no probs.

I went on 2 differant days with the early evening session being alot quieter. But on day 2we spent the day watching people on differant parts of the track then went on at the quieter time.

The DIVA

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It would be a hundred percent better if there was Bike only sessions, if you only had yourself to worry about and a few other like minded bikers it would be far safer, but obviously that would eat into revenues for the circuit and won`t ever happen i don`t think....

timster

Think thats a good point diva having seperation laps between bikes and cars.On a personal note i've been caught behind a bus out there twice which shouldn't be allowed in my opinion.

BigErn

Lawnsy done it a few times I think. I know he heat siezed his box playing on the back wheel a lot while he was there. Lol

Lambchop

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i've been 3 times in cars mate and love watching the bikes etc but NO WAY would i take mine round. I'd only want to go out later in day when its quiet and even then wouldnt feel confident going too fast. Even if you promised to take it easy its all too easy to get carried away on a bike

Go without your bike the first time you go

c0ss1e9i6

I've been 5 times on a bike and absolutely loved it! (twice in the cossie as well!)

If you go, make sure its not a weekend or German public holiday and never go on if you have to queue. That means its too busy!!!

First time I went there were 11 of us on bikes and we had one faller, who was coming out with things like 'I am invincible' etc etc, in my opinion he deserved to crash!

Si B

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Would love to do it on a bike, and if I get another (had a ZX 6R) then I will deffo make the trip once just to try it.

I'm not a nutter, but the Ring is awesome in a car, and I'm sure it would be the same on a bike.

Deffo get a lot of miles in on UK track days first though so you are capable of riding at a half decent pace, the ride with a lot of common sense and you'll stand a better chance!

Si

biglee

im well up for it, i once asked on here if anyone would be interested in going on a PF biker ring meet and it got so badly poo pooed that i never mentioned it again.

the original

I am gonna take my bike one day

AzE_B

iv heard that bmw have brought the ring for there test track and its closing down im May but dont know how ture it is

c0ss1e9i6

There are always rumours that its getting shut down, thats how I was duped in to going the first time!! LOL

If it is true then you need to go! Get it ticked of in the taskbook of life!

mad dog younge

alps just take your skate board lol

S1rst

Ive never done it in a car or on a bike, but i wouldnt even want to attempt it on the bike at all. It only takes a slight error of judgement and thats it. Theres just no (a very little) margin for error on a bike. That said, loads of people do it and love it im sure.

Alps Pacino

I recon i could stil lap in less than 10 mins

Mr C

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I went with my mate Jay (TEV on here) 3weeks ago in his Cossie and we stayed at a ring instructers place who also Marshalls on a bike there. Now I always fancied racing round on my bike but was advised to go in a car for the very first time and now having been round in a car I doubt I will ever go round on 2x wheels as Im not sure its worth the risk TBH
Our instructor mate Bren was just out of hospital for the 4th time and as Diva Rob says you dont have small offs there- Bren has broken his back 3x times and this time his knee was smashed in 5x pieces and he is bent double. His accident this time was due to a fluid spill he didnt see nor did the other 3x riders off straight after him, gutted.
Basically Bren can do a lap on a bike in the 6min ** EDITED TO SAY 7mins ** no problem and a 20 min car drive home also in 6 min, he does 13000 miles a year on that circuit thats 10,000laps and knows the circuit well but even he can get caught out and that for me is just not worth the risk, maybe I will roll round one day but IMHO it would be a waste to go all that way to roll round

Mr C

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I was also told that bike only sessions wont happen as then German government are admitting there is something wrong having to segregate bikers from car drivers- it is a public toll etc etc, The Gov wont do that as its a huge earner. but a clean track and a warm day would be superbdid you know it costs less to hire the ring out for a day than Donny park?!?!?!?!? RSOC held at the `ring in 2009 anybody LOL

cozzfather

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someone i know went on a honda bike and got blown off by a escort cosworth Alps

Alps Pacino

must have been a cbr125

c0ss1e9i6

or a C50?

That said, I went round quicker in the car than on my 916! I'll have to see how the 1098S measures up next year!

ChuckH

Utter bollocks Mate The fastest official lap record on a bike is held by Hemut Dahn in 7 Mins 49. secs
Fastest unoficial lap set by Andy Path in 7 mins 21

Brendon Kierlie AKA Bren from sliders guesthouse 7 mins 32 ?????????????????????

6 Minutes ? In Yer dreams Matey

c0ss1e9i6

What vehicles were these records obtained? I thought the Nissan GTR was the current holder but I don't know if thats a fact! Didn't the R34 Skyline hold it for a while too?

Anyone that can do it under 8 min 32 is a headcase, that was my best lap and I thought I was going to crash the car for about 5 mins of that!

It took me over 10 mins on the bike even after 10 laps as I was shatting myself! LOL

ChuckH

The times I posted were for bikes Mate ! Fast cars will lap faster than bikes cos of the grip in the corners !

Mr C

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fine 7:32 then, whatever his race lap is I dont much care but you get what I was saying though- he is quick and knows the circuit well. details its just what I was told- I will edit my post to "can do a lap in around 8mins on a bike" alright with you?

and why would I dream about someone else doing a fast lap?

Cossie916: I know of a metro that can do "around" 8:40s and the ring too, superb!!

Mr C

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Bren doing a 7:35

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BM8AzH...eature=related

ChuckH

With respect there is one hell of a lot between a 7.32 and a 6 minute lap Ive done sub 8 And thats after many years of trying !!!!

S1rst

That man has bollocks the size of coconuts!!!!!!!!

lawnsy

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Ive been loads on my R1.....good laugh..The last time i was there i seized my gear selector off lifting the front end trying to power out the corners to hard.....lol

JUST WATCH OUT FOR THE CARS COMING ROUND THE OUTSIDE OF YOU ON THE CORNERS....THEY WILL NO MATTER HOW GOOD OF A RIDER YOU ARE THEY WILL

Apart from that you will be fine..

lawnsy

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Taking in the ring carpark



And this one was setting off for the ring..

c0ss1e9i6

This is me shiteing bricks before my first ever lap!!

lawnsy

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lol i was the same mate.......couple of german sausage's from that little hut in the corner of the car park soon sorted that out...

foreigneRS

i've mastered the place in a car, so the bike is the only option left.

but i would only go on if it was very quiet and then just treat it like the road that it is, not like a racetrack that it isn't

3i_gaz

you lads have got alot more guts than me, i wanted to go the ring on a bike too, but after actually going the ring in a car my views are....

you've got to be fooking TAPPED to go round the ring on a bike, as said, the cars are far quicker on most bits, its getting more and more busy and as rob (diva) rightly put there is hardly any run off space, its jsut as dangerous as the isle of mann TT imo but with joe public on the track too to make even worse lol

c0ss1e9i6

The Schniztels et Frites in the restuarant sorted me out

foreigneRS

you went all the way to france or belgium for chips?

lawnsy

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And the piss-up on the ferry......

Them hallways and rooms on the ferry are even smaller when you are pissed...

c0ss1e9i6

Whatever the German is for chips then! Sorry!

foreigneRS

pommes

baker p

how much is a trip there? travel ,accom, ring prices etc?