Intercooler Test (Pics added Page 10)
10-11-2010, 07:36 PM
#125
Right i will post a few more facts of the day as iv just spoke to luke..
The inlet temp stayed at 11 degrees all day and the probe was put in the foam part of the air filter..
The ambient temp was 15 most of the day but dropped to 14 by the end..
As said the car did 466 hp on the radtec cooler and was run 3 times with a rest inbetween breaks and all temps noted..
Then the spec r was fitted and it made 480 hp and was run 3 times with the same intervals,the recovery time was much quicker with the spec r and it went through the rev range witout a flutter,it also made 1.5psi more boost after 5.5k and the graph for boost and power were very smooth..
Then the airtech was fitted and the same 3 runs done in the exact same way,it recorded 479 hp but did have some fluttering of the turbo(surge).
Although there was only 1 hp difference the boost and power graph wasnt as smooth and this can only be down to the way the cooler flows the air...
The tests done on a normal day with normal temps would have seen the power lower overall and probably circa 450 hp as steves car had done back in the warmer months and im sure if that was the case the spec r would have proved itself even more than today also there would be no way of getting rid of surge on the airtech with mapping etc where as with the spec r theres obviously more scope with mapping..
At the end of the day an intercooler is on your car to control act and if you can buy one that will totally control act to the point of reducing surge and cylinder temprature
then not only will you have a smoother more powerfull car but it will also have a longer turbo life and of course engine life....
So on that note,YES ITS WORTH THE EXTRA PENNIES!!
cheers danny
The inlet temp stayed at 11 degrees all day and the probe was put in the foam part of the air filter..
The ambient temp was 15 most of the day but dropped to 14 by the end..
As said the car did 466 hp on the radtec cooler and was run 3 times with a rest inbetween breaks and all temps noted..
Then the spec r was fitted and it made 480 hp and was run 3 times with the same intervals,the recovery time was much quicker with the spec r and it went through the rev range witout a flutter,it also made 1.5psi more boost after 5.5k and the graph for boost and power were very smooth..
Then the airtech was fitted and the same 3 runs done in the exact same way,it recorded 479 hp but did have some fluttering of the turbo(surge).
Although there was only 1 hp difference the boost and power graph wasnt as smooth and this can only be down to the way the cooler flows the air...
The tests done on a normal day with normal temps would have seen the power lower overall and probably circa 450 hp as steves car had done back in the warmer months and im sure if that was the case the spec r would have proved itself even more than today also there would be no way of getting rid of surge on the airtech with mapping etc where as with the spec r theres obviously more scope with mapping..
At the end of the day an intercooler is on your car to control act and if you can buy one that will totally control act to the point of reducing surge and cylinder temprature
then not only will you have a smoother more powerfull car but it will also have a longer turbo life and of course engine life....
So on that note,YES ITS WORTH THE EXTRA PENNIES!!
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 07:43 PM
#127
Happily retired
. Think of all those guys that went to Brunters ( or mine at Totb ) that had 500bhp at start of run but simply lost it on the run because of high CA . Myself i had 2off 1mm jets of water being squirted in to give mine a chance of making it to the bottom 
. Lost Power but not as much as the ECU retarding ignition because of high CA those were the compromises of using the Coolers available back then.
10-11-2010, 07:51 PM
#128
Do you 
I can't find a smiley for someone falling asleep so ...........
How easy are you all to get going, it's like the MAD mob is attacking me
You are taking these static figures try a Topspeed run or time on the throttle on a hot day. If only we had this cooler back then . Think of all those guys that went to Brunters ( or mine at Totb ) that had 500bhp at start of run but simply lost it on the run because of high CA . Myself i had 2off 1mm jets of water being squirted in to give mine a chance of making it to the bottom . Lost Power but not as much as the ECU retarding ignition because of high CA those were the compromises of using the Coolers available back then.
. Think of all those guys that went to Brunters ( or mine at Totb ) that had 500bhp at start of run but simply lost it on the run because of high CA . Myself i had 2off 1mm jets of water being squirted in to give mine a chance of making it to the bottom . Lost Power but not as much as the ECU retarding ignition because of high CA those were the compromises of using the Coolers available back then.How easy are you all to get going, it's like the MAD mob is attacking me
10-11-2010, 07:58 PM
#131
Im not any part of the mad mob mate as you know!!!lol
I certainly didnt want to buy another intercooler either but after seeing this one perform its my only option imo!!
I want the best for my engine and if bolting something on my car( witch is half the size)will allow me to add more ignition safely thus making more power without any higher acts then thats what i will do with this cooler...its a genius!!
cheers danny
I certainly didnt want to buy another intercooler either but after seeing this one perform its my only option imo!!
I want the best for my engine and if bolting something on my car( witch is half the size)will allow me to add more ignition safely thus making more power without any higher acts then thats what i will do with this cooler...its a genius!!
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 08:04 PM
#133
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 08:07 PM
#135
PassionFord Post Whore!!
Sorry if this has been asked before but why is this cooler better?
Is it the cooling fins?
The Alloy?
The route of air?
Size?
Will smaller power cars perform better?
Is it the cooling fins?
The Alloy?
The route of air?
Size?
Will smaller power cars perform better?
10-11-2010, 08:08 PM
#136
Im not any part of the mad mob mate as you know!!!lol
I certainly didnt want to buy another intercooler either but after seeing this one perform its my only option imo!!
I want the best for my engine and if bolting something on my car( witch is half the size)will allow me to add more ignition safely thus making more power without any higher acts then thats what i will do with this cooler...its a genius!!
cheers danny
I certainly didnt want to buy another intercooler either but after seeing this one perform its my only option imo!!
I want the best for my engine and if bolting something on my car( witch is half the size)will allow me to add more ignition safely thus making more power without any higher acts then thats what i will do with this cooler...its a genius!!
cheers danny
Last edited by Martin-Hadland; 10-11-2010 at 08:11 PM.
10-11-2010, 08:15 PM
#137
First off a massive thanks must go to Pete and Darren of Spec-R for bringing there intercooler and helping to remove and fit all the coolers and rad 
They also saved the day with a spacer to move the rad forward otherwise both the Spec-R and Airtec intercooler would not have fitted.
We started the day testing my original 50mm intercooler.
We had more power from the start today due to the Air Temp being 11 degress cooler than the last time my car was on EPs RR, this gave a bit more boost midrange.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 26 and finish 42 Power 466.6bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 27 and finish 43 Power 466.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 29 and finish 42 Power 468.3bhp
Air temp was 11 on these runs with a intake temp of 15
Next we fitted the Spec-R intercooler.
Air temp was 15 on these runs with a intake temp of 19
Due to the 4i bumper being different to a 3dr we could not refit the bumper correctly, also due to the intercooler being thicker my oil cooler would not fit in the position i had it in so had to be cable tied to the car.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 36 Power 473bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 25 finish 36 Power 476bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 26 finish 37 Power 474bhp
We then done 3 runs with the bumper removed as due to it not fitting correctly with the Spec-R intercooler it was covering most of it up.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 24 finish 27 Power 478bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 21 finish 27 Power 480.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 20 finish 26 Power 479.1bhp
It was noted that during the power run NO INCREASE of temp was noted, only when the throttle was shut did the temps rise.
We then fitted my Modified Airtec Intercooler.
I had different size pipes fitted due to the standard ones only having a inside diameter of 53mm, i had these changed to the same size as my original intercooler of 61mm inside diameter.
The bumper was refitted for these runs.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 27 Power 478.2bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 28 Power 479.4bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 23 finish 27 Power 478.8bhp
Air temp was 12 and intake temp of 17.
With the Airtec intercooler fitted when the throttle was shut you could hear the air causing some turbo surge but the Spec-R intercooler did not do this.
It was a shame that we could not road test the car with the Spec-R intercooler fitted as im sure the inlet temps would have been even better on the road.
Also on my journey home the Airtec did not perform any better than my original intercooler with the inlet temp around 15 for both coolers. Also both seem to take a long time for the temps to drop if you have a bit of heat soak.
Will add more if i think of anything
Better thank Luke and Danny LOL
Steve
They also saved the day with a spacer to move the rad forward otherwise both the Spec-R and Airtec intercooler would not have fitted.
We started the day testing my original 50mm intercooler.
We had more power from the start today due to the Air Temp being 11 degress cooler than the last time my car was on EPs RR, this gave a bit more boost midrange.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 26 and finish 42 Power 466.6bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 27 and finish 43 Power 466.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 29 and finish 42 Power 468.3bhp
Air temp was 11 on these runs with a intake temp of 15
Next we fitted the Spec-R intercooler.
Air temp was 15 on these runs with a intake temp of 19
Due to the 4i bumper being different to a 3dr we could not refit the bumper correctly, also due to the intercooler being thicker my oil cooler would not fit in the position i had it in so had to be cable tied to the car.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 36 Power 473bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 25 finish 36 Power 476bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 26 finish 37 Power 474bhp
We then done 3 runs with the bumper removed as due to it not fitting correctly with the Spec-R intercooler it was covering most of it up.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 24 finish 27 Power 478bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 21 finish 27 Power 480.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 20 finish 26 Power 479.1bhp
It was noted that during the power run NO INCREASE of temp was noted, only when the throttle was shut did the temps rise.
We then fitted my Modified Airtec Intercooler.
I had different size pipes fitted due to the standard ones only having a inside diameter of 53mm, i had these changed to the same size as my original intercooler of 61mm inside diameter.
The bumper was refitted for these runs.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 27 Power 478.2bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 28 Power 479.4bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 23 finish 27 Power 478.8bhp
Air temp was 12 and intake temp of 17.
With the Airtec intercooler fitted when the throttle was shut you could hear the air causing some turbo surge but the Spec-R intercooler did not do this.
It was a shame that we could not road test the car with the Spec-R intercooler fitted as im sure the inlet temps would have been even better on the road.
Also on my journey home the Airtec did not perform any better than my original intercooler with the inlet temp around 15 for both coolers. Also both seem to take a long time for the temps to drop if you have a bit of heat soak.
Will add more if i think of anything
Better thank Luke and Danny LOL
Steve
Last edited by cossie4i+; 10-11-2010 at 08:56 PM.
10-11-2010, 08:17 PM
#138
The only data i have is from ford fair and combe earlier this year and it was mostly between 37 and 42 when being driven but as soon as the throttle is shut for any length of time it shoots up and takes a while to recover..
Pete looked at my cooler today and said the core is fine but the inlet and outlet is terrible,he then went on to tell luke how it would perform iho and he was right in every way..
Im getting pete to build me one and then we will back to back test it with my pro alloy to prove the results..
Pete is going to build it for my car specificly and make the inlet side with a larger jacket than the turbo side witch will control airspeed and have a faster flow so im looking forward to seeing it work..
cheers danny
Pete looked at my cooler today and said the core is fine but the inlet and outlet is terrible,he then went on to tell luke how it would perform iho and he was right in every way..
Im getting pete to build me one and then we will back to back test it with my pro alloy to prove the results..
Pete is going to build it for my car specificly and make the inlet side with a larger jacket than the turbo side witch will control airspeed and have a faster flow so im looking forward to seeing it work..
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 08:18 PM
#139
Happily retired
10-11-2010, 08:25 PM
#140
First off a massive thanks must go to Pete and Darren of Spec-R for bringing there intercooler and helping to remove and fit all the coolers and rad
They also saved the day with a spacer to move the rad forward otherwise both the Spec-R and Airtec intercooer would not have fitted.
We started the day testing my original 50mm intercooler.
We had more power from the start today due to the Air Temp being 11 degress cooler than the last time my car was on EPs RR, this gave a bit more boost midrange.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 26 and finish 42 Power 466.6bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 27 and finish 43 Power 466.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 29 and finish 42 Power 468.3bhp
Air temp was 11 on these runs with a intake temp of 15
Next we fitted the Spec-R intercooler.
Air temp was 15 on these runs with a intake temp of 19
Due to the 4i bumper being different to a 3dr we could not refit the bumper correctly, also due to the intercooler being thicker my oil cooler would not fit in the position i had it in so had to be cable tied to the car.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 36 Power 473bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 25 finish 36 Power 476bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 26 finish 37 Power 474bhp
We then done 3 runs with the bumper removed as due to it not fitting correctly with the Spec-R intercooler it was covering most of it up.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 24 finish 27 Power 478bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 21 finish 27 Power 480.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 20 finish 26 Power 479.1bhp
It was noted that during the power run NO INCREASE of temp was noted, only when the throttle was shut did the temps rise.
We then fitted my Modified Airtec Intercooler.
I had different size pipes fitted due to the standard ones only having a inside diameter of 53mm, i had these changed to the same size as my original intercooler of 61mm inside diameter.
The bumper was refitted for these runs.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 27 Power 478.2bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 28 Power 479.4bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 23 finish 27 Power 478.8bhp
Air temp was 12 and intake temp of 17.
With the Airtec intercooler fitted when the throttle was shut you could hear the air causing some turbo surge but the Spec-R intercooler did not do this.
It was a shame that we could not road test the car with the Spec-R intercooler fitted as im sure the inlet temps would have been even better on the road.
Also on my journey home the Airtec did not perform any better than my original intercooler with the inlet temp around 15 for both coolers. Also both seem to take a long time for the temps to drop if you have a bit of heat soak.
Will add more if i think of anything
Better thank Luke and Danny LOL
Steve
They also saved the day with a spacer to move the rad forward otherwise both the Spec-R and Airtec intercooer would not have fitted.
We started the day testing my original 50mm intercooler.
We had more power from the start today due to the Air Temp being 11 degress cooler than the last time my car was on EPs RR, this gave a bit more boost midrange.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 26 and finish 42 Power 466.6bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 27 and finish 43 Power 466.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 29 and finish 42 Power 468.3bhp
Air temp was 11 on these runs with a intake temp of 15
Next we fitted the Spec-R intercooler.
Air temp was 15 on these runs with a intake temp of 19
Due to the 4i bumper being different to a 3dr we could not refit the bumper correctly, also due to the intercooler being thicker my oil cooler would not fit in the position i had it in so had to be cable tied to the car.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 36 Power 473bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 25 finish 36 Power 476bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 26 finish 37 Power 474bhp
We then done 3 runs with the bumper removed as due to it not fitting correctly with the Spec-R intercooler it was covering most of it up.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 24 finish 27 Power 478bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 21 finish 27 Power 480.8bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 20 finish 26 Power 479.1bhp
It was noted that during the power run NO INCREASE of temp was noted, only when the throttle was shut did the temps rise.
We then fitted my Modified Airtec Intercooler.
I had different size pipes fitted due to the standard ones only having a inside diameter of 53mm, i had these changed to the same size as my original intercooler of 61mm inside diameter.
The bumper was refitted for these runs.
Run 1 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 27 Power 478.2bhp
Run 2 Start inlet temp of 22 finish 28 Power 479.4bhp
Run 3 Start inlet temp of 23 finish 27 Power 478.8bhp
Air temp was 12 and intake temp of 17.
With the Airtec intercooler fitted when the throttle was shut you could hear the air causing some turbo surge but the Spec-R intercooler did not do this.
It was a shame that we could not road test the car with the Spec-R intercooler fitted as im sure the inlet temps would have been even better on the road.
Also on my journey home the Airtec did not perform any better than my original intercooler with the inlet temp around 15 for both coolers. Also both seem to take a long time for the temps to drop if you have a bit of heat soak.
Will add more if i think of anything
Better thank Luke and Danny LOL
Steve
Im sure the airtech will prove better than the old radtech mate when the air temp rises and wont suffer like the radtec used too..
When you going to buy the spec r one then!!!lol
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 08:27 PM
#141
The only data i have is from ford fair and combe earlier this year and it was mostly between 37 and 42 when being driven but as soon as the throttle is shut for any length of time it shoots up and takes a while to recover..
Pete looked at my cooler today and said the core is fine but the inlet and outlet is terrible,he then went on to tell luke how it would perform iho and he was right in every way..
Im getting pete to build me one and then we will back to back test it with my pro alloy to prove the results..
Pete is going to build it for my car specificly and make the inlet side with a larger jacket than the turbo side witch will control airspeed and have a faster flow so im looking forward to seeing it work..
cheers danny
Pete looked at my cooler today and said the core is fine but the inlet and outlet is terrible,he then went on to tell luke how it would perform iho and he was right in every way..
Im getting pete to build me one and then we will back to back test it with my pro alloy to prove the results..
Pete is going to build it for my car specificly and make the inlet side with a larger jacket than the turbo side witch will control airspeed and have a faster flow so im looking forward to seeing it work..
cheers danny
When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy 
Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it
10-11-2010, 08:30 PM
#143
Im not any part of the mad mob mate as you know!!!lol
I certainly didnt want to buy another intercooler either but after seeing this one perform its my only option imo!!
I want the best for my engine and if bolting something on my car( witch is half the size)will allow me to add more ignition safely thus making more power without any higher acts then thats what i will do with this cooler...its a genius!!
cheers danny
I certainly didnt want to buy another intercooler either but after seeing this one perform its my only option imo!!
I want the best for my engine and if bolting something on my car( witch is half the size)will allow me to add more ignition safely thus making more power without any higher acts then thats what i will do with this cooler...its a genius!!
cheers danny
LOL I suddenly have memories flooding back in regards to a little "discussion" me and you had recently at the WSRSOC meet!!!
10-11-2010, 08:32 PM
#145
Cool just wondering When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it
When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it
10-11-2010, 08:35 PM
#148
Cool just wondering When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it
When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it What sort of temps does your car average on a track day???if only knowing it doesnt go above 40 is all you know then id have a look because with this cooler you may drop temps by say 10 degrees and that would also allow you to add some spark to your map and that means more power???
If your always in the 20s then i dont suppose youd benefit from it being any better but if your not then you would...
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 08:38 PM
#150
10-11-2010, 08:39 PM
#151
Thats cool mate and if youve never had a problem then why change???
What sort of temps does your car average on a track day???if only knowing it doesnt go above 40 is all you know then id have a look because with this cooler you may drop temps by say 10 degrees and that would also allow you to add some spark to your map and that means more power???
If your always in the 20s then i dont suppose youd benefit from it being any better but if your not then you would...
cheers danny
What sort of temps does your car average on a track day???if only knowing it doesnt go above 40 is all you know then id have a look because with this cooler you may drop temps by say 10 degrees and that would also allow you to add some spark to your map and that means more power???
If your always in the 20s then i dont suppose youd benefit from it being any better but if your not then you would...
cheers danny
As you said that yours was between 38/42 didn't you? Anyhow I do know that at 200mph (the real test!!) my temps were below 40 deg so that's good enough for me.
10-11-2010, 08:41 PM
#152
Thats cool mate and if youve never had a problem then why change???
What sort of temps does your car average on a track day???if only knowing it doesnt go above 40 is all you know then id have a look because with this cooler you may drop temps by say 10 degrees and that would also allow you to add some spark to your map and that means more power???
If your always in the 20s then i dont suppose youd benefit from it being any better but if your not then you would...
cheers danny
What sort of temps does your car average on a track day???if only knowing it doesnt go above 40 is all you know then id have a look because with this cooler you may drop temps by say 10 degrees and that would also allow you to add some spark to your map and that means more power???
If your always in the 20s then i dont suppose youd benefit from it being any better but if your not then you would...
cheers danny
What use is ten bhp at 700 btw lol, on a fun track day which is non competitive
People get too strung up on getting the absolute late bhp out of the car it's too ott for me !
Were not race teams fighting for championchips lol
10-11-2010, 08:47 PM
#156
Cool just wondering When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it
When I built my car I fitted a W/I pump and reservoir etc and so I could tell when it had activated I also fitted a green lamp on the dash that illuminates when the W/I is working, this is set to activate at 40 deg. The only time that I've ever seen that lamp illuminate is once (for about a couple of seconds) when I gave the car some stick when leaving the pits at Combe after the car had been idling for ages, waiting to go out on track. So I'm sticking with my Pro Alloy Btw my W/I tank has never had water in it
10-11-2010, 08:48 PM
#157
The thing is, if you lost 5 degrees act and managed to put a couple of degree in the map what are you going to gain ? Ten bhp ?
What use is ten bhp at 700 btw lol, on a fun track day which is non competitive
People get too strung up on getting the absolute late bhp out of the car it's too ott for me !
Were not race teams fighting for championchips lol
What use is ten bhp at 700 btw lol, on a fun track day which is non competitive
People get too strung up on getting the absolute late bhp out of the car it's too ott for me !
Were not race teams fighting for championchips lol
This cooler is better for more reasons than just getting 10 hp jimbo so really mate as usual your missing the point!!!lol
In petes words on mad ades car they see alot more than 10 hp!!!and still with better temps also its more down to air flow and air speed...
What youve just said is like saying why put that much better inlet plenum on my car??although its far more efficient in flow etc it only makes 10 hp more so il just stick with my std one!!!!LOL
cheers danny
10-11-2010, 08:51 PM
#160
I know where my money has been spent, and still very glad I've done it
Compare the ACTs and power on a hot day as said, then I'm sure there would be a good enough difference to justify the cost
If your ACTs are higher and the ignition gets retarded, costing you say 30hp, then all the time you drive it in the summer, you're loosing out on 30hp
Compare the ACTs and power on a hot day as said, then I'm sure there would be a good enough difference to justify the cost
If your ACTs are higher and the ignition gets retarded, costing you say 30hp, then all the time you drive it in the summer, you're loosing out on 30hp
Thats alot of power to be missing out on when you dont use your car much anyway and its the thrill you want.