scottyrs

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please please is there anybody in the north east area that could help me out if got a 2wd cossie with a smokey engine been told i need valve stem seals and maybe rings but cant get anybody to do it,thought about doing it myself but ive never done any sort of rebuild before i just want some one to check the engine and tell me for defo what it needs ive got abit money saved up but seem to keep hitting a brick wall and the only thing i can think of is selling it but i REALLY dont want to i love my car so is there anybody can help or point me in the right direction before i basically have to sell thanks in advance.

p.s by the way the engine will be out of the car as the car is already at a garage thats was going to do the work but has now changed his mind and told me he hasnt got the time which is the reason why ive had to post up here

Csm

Why dont you ask Jimbo for a qoute from his dads SCS for a standard parts refresh of the bottom end plus head !!

Just to see what your looking at done by the pro's

2wd saff cos @ stage 3

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if i lived closer i would love to help, they are both jobs you can do by yourself but all the engines got to come apart, have you not got any mechanic mates or even family?

retro d

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I would help you out if closer to you mate, just had my engine apart on my cos daily on saturday started at 8am, done a full rebuild on my head and de coke/clean up and back together by 10pm.
How bad is it smoking and what colour was it> ???

Ebonycossie4x4

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engine needs to come apart to be looked at.

best way to think about it is that it will need rings. Then if it doesn't you will be pleasantly surprised.

It most likely will be rings though! Or valve guides if the smoke is blue as i suspect.

i would have helped you diagnose/get it apart if you was local, sorry mate.

R4N SS

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surely there are peeps ooop north that could help

scottyrs

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cheer every1 for ofering its white/grey smoke very bad on start up then gets abit beter ive literaly askd all my mates/family but none of them are interestd really think its+just an old sierra guttd tho i get my dream car and now this! havent even drove it yet!

2wd saff cos @ stage 3

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man im sorry for ya, if its worse on start up but gets better could well be stem seals

Ebonycossie4x4

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White Grey, is that not water? Does it boil over?

does it go away anytime?

Ebonycossie4x4

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is blue not stem seals?

Ryan_3

gutted mate, there must be a mechanic local to you mate? or try jimbo

Ebonycossie4x4

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even a freshen up is 3k minimum from a reputable engine builder surely.

ROADWARS

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id have a look at this for you if i wasnt busy moving garages but ask wenny as we only down road in hartlepool

2wd saff cos @ stage 3

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have you checked things like mayo under oil cap?
jus in case it headgasket.
cos u aint driven it, you dont no what its like when it boosts

scottyrs

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well ive checked the oil cap thats fine and ive driven it up and down the street when i got it and it seemed to boost fine ive never drivien one before so wouldntr really know but it was very quick nothing ive felt before lol, basically when you rev it theres alot of smoke not that bad when its just left running and oil is comming out of my breather just a tiny bit mind! so was told rings and stem seals??

scottyrs

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ive even thought about just doing a swap with paul at ny spares he has and engine in stock and the garage where the cars is now is prepared to take mine out and refit the new 1 but dont no if its worth that or just getting fixed i really am baffled what to do thinking about it 24/7

retro d

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Its could be your turbo rear seals gone, I had this on an engine once when I reved it up on the spot smoked bad white/grey ish. ? just trying to help you out.
Have a look at the rear of the turbo for black oil.

Ebonycossie4x4

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you need to get someone that knows what he is doing to look at this mate. either that or bite the bullet and get the engine from Paul.

(if it includes turbo as that could be your problem)

Csm

What are you talking for a basic engine from breakers

£1000 thereabouts

Ebonycossie4x4

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1500 i would imagine.

Captain500rs

Did you try them 2 numbers i posted up the other day?

Csm

Think he is doing an exchange for his one tho bud

I did this with Petes RS Specialists on my cossie years ago cost me £1k exchange and i delivered and collected myself

xr4x4rs

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white is water
blue is oil
blackis fuel

these are the colours of smoke depending on what it burns

to test the rings ask the garage if they can do a leak down test this will tell you if your oil rings are shot or not

regarding stem seals usually it smokes a lot onstart up and when they warm up the smoke either goes away or its very little as they expand when they warm up creating a seal again

also could be your water seal in your turbo leaking creating the smoke if its white or possible headgasket

check at the back of the exhaust manifold where the head meats the block to see if you can see any water dripping down the block as this is where the headgaskets start to leak

to do an exchange isnt a bad option but then neither is a freshen up on yoru engine, but with yours when you take it apart it may need other things which you carnt see like pistons, oil pump, bearings etc

scottyrs

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yeah it was an exchange im thinking about doing £800 and my engine it would cost obv no gurantee on the new engine but im more then welcome to go and hear it running and make up my own mind

scottyrs

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oh and when i bought the car i was told the turbo was nearly new and it does look new to be fair with no play soo..

scottyrs

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sorry mate no i didnt do you have them again please ive emailed a company called northern rebore over the weekend as they where closed but no reply yet anyone heard of them or any storries??

scottyrs

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cant check this as my car is at the garage ive told him to at least take the engine out as thats one less thing to worryaboutbecause weather i get mine fixed or do the trade im going to need it out anyways

RWD_cossie_wil

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Mate just rebuild your engine top to bottom, you should be able to do it for £1500 easy including new pistons and new bearings, oil pump etc. Then you will effectively have a brand new engine, and peace of mnd.... Get a decent machine shop to match the rings and pistons to the bore, and rebuild the head etc, and just bolt it together.

scottyrs

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i would love to lol i could aford £1500 but so far all my local garages and few people i know dont want to do it soons they ask what car it is they say nooo way straight away

TN

Sorry to sound harsh mate but your facing up to the reason why buying a cheap cossie with no mechanical knowledge and not much spare cash is not a good idea, they are only cheap for a reason!

Your best bet if you cant get anyone to help you is go for the exchange engine and get someone to fit you and fingers crossed its a good strong engine

All depends how much money you have to spend?

ROADWARS

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did you miss this post

scottyrs

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yeah i know mate ive read countless posts about it in the past on here ect but i didnt mind its not the money thats the factor i just thought id be able to get people local ect and mates to help but obviously not,i dont mind if it takes a year to get done as long as i get there in the end but at the minute im just not moving forward atall.

adam151082

wish i knew what to look for m8 but i cant fix mine , i only live in Sunderland as well

scottyrs

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sorry mate i didnt see this sorry to sound abit thick but who is wenny lol ill have a quick look now see if i can find him on here and drop him a pm bud

Glenn_

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Go and see wenny he will help you out.

scottyrs

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cheers for the comments/advice i know i seem like a young lad whos just dived in and bought the first cheap cossy and to be honest your probaly right but just wanted to get my first one and didnt mind a bit of a project i know hopefully ill get there in the end and itl will all be worth while!!

TN

I hope you can get it sorted mate, nowt like your first cossie and I hope one day you can enjoy it! dont rush into selling it, like you say if it takes 12months to get it sorted, just make sure when you sort it that is sorted properly and not bodged as it will only cost more in the long term!

If it means parking it up for 6months and saving like mad to get it done proper it will be worth it

Captain500rs

There is a couple of places do engines in North East, Cleasby's in Durham 0191 3782407 and engine servies in Dunston 0191 460 5256.

ROADWARS

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drop him a pm mate there is not much he dont know about them

payney

cleasbys is rebuilding an escort cosworth small turbo lump for me now for £1300,new pistons the lot