Whats a good Boost Controller?
We do alot of the Gizzmo controllers these days. Most people seem bored with the gadgets and rising costs of the jap stuff and Gizzmo's are great and do exactly what they need to. Control boost!!
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Been looking at these Porkie
Christian recomended this one to me: http://www.gizzmoelectronics.co.uk/Product_MSIBC.html
Christian recomended this one to me: http://www.gizzmoelectronics.co.uk/Product_MSIBC.html
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Im using the Profec 2, which is one of the most basic controllers on the market.
http://www.grahamgoode.com/website/p...&item=15500210
Can be picked up on ebay for approx Ł250.00.
http://www.grahamgoode.com/website/p...&item=15500210
Can be picked up on ebay for approx Ł250.00.
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Im using the Profec 2, which is one of the most basic controllers on the market.
http://www.grahamgoode.com/website/p...&item=15500210
Can be picked up on ebay for approx Ł250.00.
http://www.grahamgoode.com/website/p...&item=15500210
Can be picked up on ebay for approx Ł250.00.
I had that one on my Skyline! I had a play with it once by accident... kinda just started pressing buttons and making it gain or something... didnt seem to do much to be honest
an hour later it lunched the Turbos.
I was wounded. Engine out job! Properly expensive little fooking fiddle around that was!!!!
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I run a Blitz Dual SBC Spec R in my cossie and I think its a really good bit of kit.
Not too complicated to use with no fancy screens or any posh little gadgets built into it and is really small and easy to install!
http://www.machv.com/blitsbcdcboo.html
Not too complicated to use with no fancy screens or any posh little gadgets built into it and is really small and easy to install!
http://www.machv.com/blitsbcdcboo.html
I'm using this one,

Its the Blitz SBC-iD and is one of the best controllers imo. Dual boost solonoids means it will hold whatever boost you want it to whenever you want. Also got 4 channels which you can set to different levels of boost.
Can be had for around Ł260 off ebay.

Its the Blitz SBC-iD and is one of the best controllers imo. Dual boost solonoids means it will hold whatever boost you want it to whenever you want. Also got 4 channels which you can set to different levels of boost.
Can be had for around Ł260 off ebay.
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Chipola how much is SM4?
I would have loved to have switched to 2 bar on saturday and kept up with supermike!
EDIT. SM4 is the ecu isnt it
I would have loved to have switched to 2 bar on saturday and kept up with supermike!
EDIT. SM4 is the ecu isnt it
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how much Christian?
can you control the boost curve or just the end amount... and does that make ANY sense

what I mean is...
could I have one setting with a mental 2.4 bar boost spike for lighting up the wheels for hooligan mode...
and then another setting for gheyness passing noise tests/wet days at 1.3 bar.
and then another than zips up to 1.5 bar and then progressively rises upto 2 bar at peak revs for going fast without loosing traction?
When I have this... I will be SOOOOO happy with the little bathtub!!
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how much Christian?
can you control the boost curve or just the end amount... and does that make ANY sense

what I mean is...
could I have one setting with a mental 2.4 bar boost spike for lighting up the wheels for hooligan mode...
and then another setting for gheyness passing noise tests/wet days at 1.3 bar.
and then another than zips up to 1.5 bar and then progressively rises upto 2 bar at peak revs for going fast without loosing traction?
When I have this... I will be SOOOOO happy with the little bathtub!!
can you control the boost curve or just the end amount... and does that make ANY sense

what I mean is...
could I have one setting with a mental 2.4 bar boost spike for lighting up the wheels for hooligan mode...
and then another setting for gheyness passing noise tests/wet days at 1.3 bar.
and then another than zips up to 1.5 bar and then progressively rises upto 2 bar at peak revs for going fast without loosing traction?
When I have this... I will be SOOOOO happy with the little bathtub!!
SM4 does all that and a bag of chips

In fact it will even allow you to control the boost in real time using the throttle but still based on a revs curve.
So for example 25% throttle could be:
3000rpm = 8psi
5000rpm = 10psi
7000rpm = 14psi
But 50% might be
3000rpm = 15psi
5000rpm = 20 psi
7000rpm = 25 psi
and full throttle could be
3000rpm = 20psi
5000rpm = 25psi
7000rpm = 30psi
And it will interpolate in between etc too.
Decent management can make a car VERY driveable
you want one that does a graph versus rpm.
Like so:
http://www.temple-tuning.co.uk/apexi...vc-r-722-p.asp
Been looking at these Porkie
Christian recomended this one to me: http://www.gizzmoelectronics.co.uk/Product_MSIBC.html
Christian recomended this one to me: http://www.gizzmoelectronics.co.uk/Product_MSIBC.html
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turbo smart e-boost 2 is a very good controller and has a learn function for gear rpm based boost i also have a profec 2 in my daily very simple hi-lo boost control and easy to set up
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Does nothing the blitz one you have cant do, its basically just a cheaper version of the same thing.
you want one that does a graph versus rpm.
Like so:
http://www.temple-tuning.co.uk/apexi...vc-r-722-p.asp
you want one that does a graph versus rpm.
Like so:
http://www.temple-tuning.co.uk/apexi...vc-r-722-p.asp
I called Martoon and he doesn't have the Solenoid, only has the screen bit.
So unless Christian knows if I can buy the Solenoids seperately.... I'm buying a whole new one anyway!
You can buy solenoids seperately I would imagine, as its probably just a generic boost control solenoid.
Even the autronic ones are only 100 quid, so cant imagine it being anymore than that as autronic arent known for under pricing stuff
Edit: here you go, will be one of these
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-318.aspx
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-319.aspx
Even the autronic ones are only 100 quid, so cant imagine it being anymore than that as autronic arent known for under pricing stuff

Edit: here you go, will be one of these
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-318.aspx
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-319.aspx
Last edited by Chip; Feb 23, 2009 at 01:54 PM.
This Gizzmo's are a fantastic controller. We are fitting those in favour of GReddy and Apexi stuff these days, purely on account of how simple they are, but SO effective and the price is unreal when most of the others are beyond Ł300 now at least (I think the AVC-R is currently close to Ł400!!)
I've just learnt of a Gizzmo price drop too, making the MS-IBC, which is 50psi capable and with 6 presets sub Ł200!! (Ł199 plus postage!!).
IMO, the fancy stuff is pointless. If the car is proper to start with and with an adequate wastegate, you'll not need trickery and gear-based boost biasing is for girls if you ask me.
Gizzmo FTW.
I've just learnt of a Gizzmo price drop too, making the MS-IBC, which is 50psi capable and with 6 presets sub Ł200!! (Ł199 plus postage!!).
IMO, the fancy stuff is pointless. If the car is proper to start with and with an adequate wastegate, you'll not need trickery and gear-based boost biasing is for girls if you ask me.
Gizzmo FTW.

That'll teach me not to over estimate people!
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You can buy solenoids seperately I would imagine, as its probably just a generic boost control solenoid.
Even the autronic ones are only 100 quid, so cant imagine it being anymore than that as autronic arent known for under pricing stuff
Edit: here you go, will be one of these
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-318.aspx
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-319.aspx
Even the autronic ones are only 100 quid, so cant imagine it being anymore than that as autronic arent known for under pricing stuff

Edit: here you go, will be one of these
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-318.aspx
http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/ProductItem-319.aspx
DOH!!!!
dont know what to do now
Last edited by Porkie; Feb 23, 2009 at 02:18 PM.
Gary's Evo for one runs 2-bar flat.
Let's not start a war on this one and agree to disagree?? We've done alot of work with most of the boost controllers on the market and in my opinion a strong simple controller reigns supreme, against a fancy gadget packed controller that can't control the boost very well.
Sorry Chip. I still don't get it. In my experience, people drive their car accordingly and don't rely on a boost controller to do it for them. That's certainly the concensus of opinion of the majority of our customer base.
Gary's Evo for one runs 2-bar flat.
Let's not start a war on this one and agree to disagree?? We've done alot of work with most of the boost controllers on the market and in my opinion a strong simple controller reigns supreme, against a fancy gadget packed controller that can't control the boost very well.
Gary's Evo for one runs 2-bar flat.
Let's not start a war on this one and agree to disagree?? We've done alot of work with most of the boost controllers on the market and in my opinion a strong simple controller reigns supreme, against a fancy gadget packed controller that can't control the boost very well.

Seriously, if you have a GT30 and a 2 litre engine, then coming out of a 4000rpm 2nd gear corner trying to modulate the boost with the throttle, really doesnt work very well, having a setup that actually takes the throttle as a user request parameter and delivers the appropriate boost accordingly makes it massively more driveable.
Its hard to explain how good it is to someone who hasnt tried it setup properly in the first place TBH.
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This Gizzmo's are a fantastic controller. We are fitting those in favour of GReddy and Apexi stuff these days, purely on account of how simple they are, but SO effective and the price is unreal when most of the others are beyond Ł300 now at least (I think the AVC-R is currently close to Ł400!!)
I've just learnt of a Gizzmo price drop too, making the MS-IBC, which is 50psi capable and with 6 presets sub Ł200!! (Ł199 plus postage!!).
IMO, the fancy stuff is pointless. If the car is proper to start with and with an adequate wastegate, you'll not need trickery and gear-based boost biasing is for girls if you ask me.
Gizzmo FTW.

I've just learnt of a Gizzmo price drop too, making the MS-IBC, which is 50psi capable and with 6 presets sub Ł200!! (Ł199 plus postage!!).
IMO, the fancy stuff is pointless. If the car is proper to start with and with an adequate wastegate, you'll not need trickery and gear-based boost biasing is for girls if you ask me.
Gizzmo FTW.


I'll use my right foot and brain to control the boost in gear and stuff
You need to try driving a big power FWD car on track mate 
Seriously, if you have a GT30 and a 2 litre engine, then coming out of a 4000rpm 2nd gear corner trying to modulate the boost with the throttle, really doesnt work very well, having a setup that actually takes the throttle as a user request parameter and delivers the appropriate boost accordingly makes it massively more driveable.
Its hard to explain how good it is to someone who hasnt tried it setup properly in the first place TBH.

Seriously, if you have a GT30 and a 2 litre engine, then coming out of a 4000rpm 2nd gear corner trying to modulate the boost with the throttle, really doesnt work very well, having a setup that actually takes the throttle as a user request parameter and delivers the appropriate boost accordingly makes it massively more driveable.
Its hard to explain how good it is to someone who hasnt tried it setup properly in the first place TBH.
Chip, we are talking about the exception there, as opposed to the rule though. In my opinion, spending Ł300-Ł400 on a controller for a RWD/4WD car that really doesn't need that kind of trickery is silly when the Gizzmo is so good pound for pound and setting everything else aside, is so stable.

Mind you, so would a manual boost controller be TBH, and they cost 20 quid and can be installed in a couple of minutes!
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