EIL132

314 from a 1600 is incredible

Sexy-RS

I Dread to think what my acts was

cossiecrew

how come it was held at a venue that the rollers topped out at 280 bhp? or is that not the case ive been told that they do true or false?

simon170

Not true.

508bhp skyline ran a while back and that was fine, plus my cars 300bhp and it was built and tested at PE.

cossiecrew

edited as sassys told me

SassyRS

at the wheels yes


It was a day for people to meet up have a giggle, and get a cuppa and a bacon roll

was a Good day and i hope everyone was happy

Karl

Simon,

Tims car made peak power under 6000rpm and this is incorrect. The only way that tims car can make peak power this low is if either the ECU is causing ignition protection through high ACT/ECT's or something is amisss with the rollers.

Tim's engine is now 5 years old and has been mapped and tested so many times that its a known quantity. As such when the results from a RR are dramatically different to what is 100% known, there is obviously an answer to why...........

cossiecrew

surely it would of been best to hold it somewhere that could cater for the cars expected just my opinion

SassyRS

The people who came knew the score, it was up to them wheter they ran there cars or not, they wern't forced to

everyone seemed happy so whats the problem??

cossiecrew

not wanting or trying to cause any problems was just hosting an opinion

Mr S1

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Absolutely right - I was there, didn't stay long though as still not 'right'.........saw Boxxer (Michael), Rad and Rob and met Shitbox.........left about 1pm.............

redcossie

i didn't stay long had to go do a pj.but must say time i was there was very good,especially the two peple that sat in my boot for me..

simon170

ACT was 36 and the rollers have bee re-calibrated recently Karl.

Also Tim wasnt running full boost from what I heard. Were you aware of this?

Cars can develop Faults, seems a bit off to go straight in and say the rollers are wrong if you werent there and havent checked the car. I'm not saying Tims car is broken or nakered. Just saying that you didnt see either of them today, rollers or car, so its not fair to make that assumption.

Fiecos Dan

Well done to all.

any big power 4x4's? Did Oli run?


(IF true)
Surely on a day like today ACT's should not of been a problem, cant think of results if held in 28oC ambients.

TheBishMan

As always was great to see everyone again, cheers to Powers especially for the tea and sarnies Well done for the day Tone shame I missed out on PF!!

Kev - 272 Bhp and I was chuffed with that

redcossie awesome car mate, LMAO at the shout "its spinning the bloody rollers....anyone wanna sit in the boot???"

Nice one Lou, good figure there

Linsay

Cheers Shings Goes well doesn't she

Thanks Paul
Is all down to Karl and Oli - but the car would not have been ready at all if it wasn't for Dingo - BIG UP DING

Was really pleased with 231bhp @16psi
Wasn't sure how it was gonna turn out, as the car has not been touched after fitting the new GRS cooler and on the way down it felt like the boost was tiling off a little early - think it was just me being paranoid

Would like to say Karl has warned me before about rolling roading the car on previous occasions

Good to meet some new people

WELL DONE TONY ON A SMOOTH RUNNING DAY

Linsay

Some pictures for you

























And a small video clip

http://www.derbyshire-rsoc.co.uk/ima...ay/linsay1.avi - right click save as

Anonymous

158 BHP @ 6413

133 LBS/FT

From my mk2 golf gti

simon170

Grey RS - Was your car the one with the poilished square-ish five spokes and the PE back box?

TheBishMan

grey RS good power and pics

Dal Xr nice one fella, PMSL at you waiting till last out of respect!!

redcossie

thanks for the comments bishman,it was nice to find out if all the money
was spent wisely..

Linsay

simon170 Yes that's me Polished MO's

turbotrev

Had a good day, plenty of nice cars both on and off the rollers, chatted to a few peeps off here which was all good too.

Not having a dig at Tony or anyone else but in my opinion the organising was a little pants IMO but saying that I agree that its not gonna be easy arranging 40 odd cars all to run in one day.

I did decide in the end not to run my car (black NMS S2) after having a quick chat to Karl on the phone mainly due to the poor cooling facilites.
This was ultimatly my choice as I didnt want to risk any kind of unnessessary damage to my recently built car.

Even though I would have loved to come home with a nice power graph I thought it best to give it miss this time. Plus i'm more than happy with the car's power as it feels fantastic on road, which is where it counts (cheers Karl )

Cheers

Paul

UBster

looked like a quality day!

Christian and Beccy

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I don't mind saying that when I saw the size of the fan, I was a little sceptical, but on the run the ACT's were no worse than I have seen elsewhere. I certainly wasn't concerned.

simon170

That was car of the day for me, clean simple, tidy, awesome power for not a massive amount of boost

Love it

Rich_w

Paul. (Trev)I'm shocked your car's dirty

If you want to do that thing we talked about, how about next weekend? Sunday? (Weather Permitting)

Steven_RW

This sounds like a fun day out. Power out puts seem about right considering recent brunters figures!

RW

foreigneRS

karl, check this one out, a 2.2kW motor is only 100th of what's needed

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=171725

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=173545

sorry christian although your ACT sensor did not show more than 40, doesn't mean that the air was not hotter and therefore less dense. the ACT sensor has a certain thermal inertia that may not have been overcome in the time it takes to do a power run.

Christian and Beccy

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I'm sorry foreignRS, but that fan crops up EVERY time someone mentions anything even REMOTELY connected to cooling.

The fact is, that fan is MANY MANY times overkill for what is required to do a Power-run. Awesome it is, necessary it isn't.

As for my ACT's, they compare to what I saw on the road. Thats all that's required is it not? My ACT's at SCA were slighly higher infact.

MikeR

Surely if the size of the fan was that much of a problem then they (PE) would have changed it by now would they not

and as Christian has said i was very skeptical when i saw it

Mike

mk1 chris

Hi guys, thanks to all of you who turned up today, seemed like a very good atmosphere, as with all rolling road days the odd few are sometimes dissapointed with the figures, cant be helped really.


Karl, you seem to be a little worried about cooling today on some of the cars, where possible, intake air temps and coolant temps were monitored and in the case of the grey RS turbo i was advised to turn on the water injection by the owner if the ACT's went above 50 degrees C, they never went above 35 during the 3 short dyno pulls we did for every car, a couple of cars have reportedly made the power "early", this may be due to rpm scaling on the dyno software, it will not effect the power and torque figures, i would urge all people to make sure than their dyno graphs from us all cross at 5200 rpm, this will insure power and torque figures are correct.

again, thanks to everyone who showed today, i hope you all had a safe journey home.

mk1 chris

also, surely the outlet size/area of the fan denotes how concentrated the air coming out will be, we have never had cooling issues even when live mapping unless its august, we then use two of the same fan.

R4N SS

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i had a good day out altho it was a fair wait which is understandable.

a big up to tony and to Matt and the rest of the PE crew

I got 380 on one run and 385lbs torque but they did say they could hear "a crack of det on peak boost" which is a bit as there were no det cans in sight

pe chris - why do the 2wd rollers max out at 280bhp at the wheels? Is there anything in the pipeline to correct this?

Not an easy day to organise but a big well done to all involved and the bacon sarnies well

Billabong

Shouldn't that be 5252rpm?

mk1 chris

if you can make that out on a dot matrix printed paper graph then yes

MikeR

Mine cross's at approx that


mike

R4N SS

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also got to say pe-chris's mk1 fezzy looks awesome

Billabong

Then why put 5200 then

cossiecrew

also was wondering about that