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And now for an adult discussion - CAPTIAL PUNISHMENT......
03-02-2006, 08:02 PM
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And now for an adult discussion - CAPTIAL PUNISHMENT......
Should the UK bring back the death penalty and capital punishment?
For's, against's and why's.
Discuss.....
Personally, I am all for it and I think our justice system needs RADICALLY altering, and the reintroduction of captal punishment would, IMO, possibly kerb the growing "fashionable" crime rate....
Discuss......
For's, against's and why's.
Discuss.....
Personally, I am all for it and I think our justice system needs RADICALLY altering, and the reintroduction of captal punishment would, IMO, possibly kerb the growing "fashionable" crime rate....
Discuss......
03-02-2006, 08:10 PM
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Hmm, so far 100% in favour - I didn't think it would be that much to be fair....
One thing that massively annoys me about our penal system is sentencing. "Life" should mean LIFE = not fooking 24yrs. Nowadays you can get life, 24yrs, but plead guilty and it's reduced to 18. With parole system that halved to 9.
And whats worse is concurrent sentencing. You commit 5 counts of rape and then kill each victim. So you go to court and plead guilty on 5 accounts. You get 5 life sentences. Surely this should mean you are sentenced to 120yrs in jail. No.... You get each one reduced to 18 for pleading guilty, then with parole thats 9 years. But each sentence is CONCURRENT, as in served at the same time, not back to back.
So you rape 5 women, kill each one and you only serve 9 years inside?
What a FUCKING disgrace this countries judicial system is. Fucking DISGRACFUL. Disgusting.
One thing that massively annoys me about our penal system is sentencing. "Life" should mean LIFE = not fooking 24yrs. Nowadays you can get life, 24yrs, but plead guilty and it's reduced to 18. With parole system that halved to 9.
And whats worse is concurrent sentencing. You commit 5 counts of rape and then kill each victim. So you go to court and plead guilty on 5 accounts. You get 5 life sentences. Surely this should mean you are sentenced to 120yrs in jail. No.... You get each one reduced to 18 for pleading guilty, then with parole thats 9 years. But each sentence is CONCURRENT, as in served at the same time, not back to back.
So you rape 5 women, kill each one and you only serve 9 years inside?
What a FUCKING disgrace this countries judicial system is. Fucking DISGRACFUL. Disgusting.
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03-02-2006, 08:22 PM
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I hate the whole life sentence thing too mate, what a load of bollox. To me a life sentence to me should mean the only way you get out is in a box.
03-02-2006, 08:26 PM
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These judges are like our MP's. They dont live in the real world, they have no perspective on real life. Let the victims of crime and victims relatives pass sentence, thats what I say 
03-02-2006, 08:29 PM
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As above, too many mis-carriages of justice in the old days. So it cant erally come back. Or it could but it would take a decade to sort throught the numerous appeals and tie up the courts too much.
What I would like to see is better sentancing and rehabilitation of offenders to reduce the re-offending rates.
What I would like to see is better sentancing and rehabilitation of offenders to reduce the re-offending rates.
03-02-2006, 08:37 PM
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rehab is BOLLOX...
ALL prisoners should have a cell with a bucket to piss and shit in and have their WANK meals shoved under the door and NOT be let out of the cell, NO TV or nothing.... That is the best ''rehab'' as who would want to spend time like that???? Surely would put a lot of people off doing more crime..
And yes bring back the death penalty!
Also bring back the cane for kids at school. Kids were better behaved and more discaplined and had more respect when there was some authority, they are not even scared of police now FFS... ITS A JOKE and its the do gooding wankers that have made it like this....
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ALL prisoners should have a cell with a bucket to piss and shit in and have their WANK meals shoved under the door and NOT be let out of the cell, NO TV or nothing.... That is the best ''rehab'' as who would want to spend time like that???? Surely would put a lot of people off doing more crime..
And yes bring back the death penalty!
Also bring back the cane for kids at school. Kids were better behaved and more discaplined and had more respect when there was some authority, they are not even scared of police now FFS... ITS A JOKE and its the do gooding wankers that have made it like this....
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03-02-2006, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by robbie s
These judges are like our MP's. They dont live in the real world, they have no perspective on real life. Let the victims of crime and victims relatives pass sentence, thats what I say
...and that sort of responsibility is one hell of a thing to hang on the relatives who've just lost a loved one and feel compelled to get justice for them...might make them take a decision they later regret?
I think sentences should be better established, life means life, etc...as said above.
Surely its a case of making sentences a deterrant. The thought of 6 months in a warm room with your own basin, tv and free meals...a tax funded holiday.
03-02-2006, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Katie
Originally Posted by robbie s
These judges are like our MP's. They dont live in the real world, they have no perspective on real life. Let the victims of crime and victims relatives pass sentence, thats what I say
...and that sort of responsibility is one hell of a thing to hang on the relatives who've just lost a loved one and feel compelled to get justice for them...might make them take a decision they later regret?
I think sentences should be better established, life means life, etc...as said above.
Surely its a case of making sentences a deterrant. The thought of 6 months in a warm room with your own basin, tv and free meals...a tax funded holiday.
03-02-2006, 08:58 PM
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I agree that the condition of out penitentiaries is shokcing - and not shocking as in bad... Maybe I watch too many movies, but it seems the Americans have got it right - 8x4 cells with steel bars, with a bunk bed and a crapper. None of this TV, playstation, fucking pool table bollox.
One of the problems we have in this country is habitual criminals, that commit crimes TO GET CAUGHT, as they have a better life inside than out in society. They go inside and they get 3 square meals a day, along with air con, comfy beds, sofa's, sky TV, playstion etc..... It's fucking ridiculous and I resent the fact that it's my fucking taxes being paid for these guys to have a fucking holiday... Every prison should be like fooking Alkatraz!
Then you get the human rights activists harking on about their rights - what fucking rights? I say you lost your human rights when you *chose* to break the law and become a criminal - shouldn't get fucking rights after that till you complete your sentence. Prisons should be exempt from rights...
One of the problems we have in this country is habitual criminals, that commit crimes TO GET CAUGHT, as they have a better life inside than out in society. They go inside and they get 3 square meals a day, along with air con, comfy beds, sofa's, sky TV, playstion etc..... It's fucking ridiculous and I resent the fact that it's my fucking taxes being paid for these guys to have a fucking holiday... Every prison should be like fooking Alkatraz!
Then you get the human rights activists harking on about their rights - what fucking rights? I say you lost your human rights when you *chose* to break the law and become a criminal - shouldn't get fucking rights after that till you complete your sentence. Prisons should be exempt from rights...
04-02-2006, 05:58 AM
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In todays society where a life means nothing to some people and we have rapists and peadophiles etc spiralling out of control i say hang the bastards , the technology at the polices disposal ie dna etc should prove if someones guilty or not.
04-02-2006, 01:33 PM
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I think they should bring it back mainly due to the fact there is more crime on the streets now than there was many years ago. More and more people are commiting serious crimes and the government have already admitted that prisons are becoming over crowded.
You have so many repeat offenders that just continue breaking the law and people like rapists, murderers, peadophiles should be givem the death penalty.
There is some many criminals at the moment that seem to be living a life of luxery at our expense, the whole point of prison is to teach them a lesson and punish them.
The Huntleys are a prime example they killed to school girls yet them get treated like royalty
You have so many repeat offenders that just continue breaking the law and people like rapists, murderers, peadophiles should be givem the death penalty.
There is some many criminals at the moment that seem to be living a life of luxery at our expense, the whole point of prison is to teach them a lesson and punish them.
The Huntleys are a prime example they killed to school girls yet them get treated like royalty
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