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Old 29-01-2006, 09:48 PM
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Taken of BBC news web site

Old 29-01-2006, 09:49 PM
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Old 29-01-2006, 09:51 PM
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What the fook
Old 29-01-2006, 09:51 PM
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fcuk me that is scary.nd they say thats the safest way 2 travel???????
Old 29-01-2006, 09:51 PM
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How did I know you were going to put this up! Looks scary and will probably be one of the pics in the future that goes around with the captions underneath or one of those strange facts type books
Old 29-01-2006, 09:52 PM
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fookin hell
Old 29-01-2006, 09:52 PM
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From the angle of the photo they could be a mile apart
Old 29-01-2006, 09:52 PM
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They said its not a near miss, a near miss is anything closer than 2 miles together! Fook me no way does that look 2 miles apart . But as said photos can be deceptive, but still awsome picture! lol
Old 29-01-2006, 09:53 PM
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Is that what they call tail gateing
Old 29-01-2006, 09:53 PM
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i think if a plane is within 3 miles of another plane then its classed as a near miss, as your doing nigh on 600mph you have about 30 seconds to manouver


that pics would be classed as a fucking close one lol
Old 29-01-2006, 10:08 PM
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was both of there radars not working or what
Old 29-01-2006, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EIL132
From the angle of the photo they could be a mile apart
EXACTLY. Artistc Perspective is better then photoshop
Old 29-01-2006, 10:16 PM
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Old 29-01-2006, 10:18 PM
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I flew with JAL when i went to Japan/Australia!!!!

Dont think il bother with them again!!

Pete..
Old 29-01-2006, 10:39 PM
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thats not a near miss, the requirements for separation are 1000ft which when you take into account that the jal aircraft is a boeing 777 which has a much larger wingspan than the dhl plane, the spacing will be more than enough it's just the angle with a zoom lens, must be a slow news day!
Old 30-01-2006, 01:26 AM
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Haven't you guys ever seen planes mate before?

Old 30-01-2006, 06:46 AM
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people saying that does look to close.would views be the same if you was on it?
Old 30-01-2006, 09:52 AM
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It's on the front page of the Daily Mail today
Old 30-01-2006, 10:02 AM
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Don't seem real tbh. I watched a program on what would happen if there was a mid air collision over britain recently. As mentioned i'm sure it is not as close as it seems as the planes t-cas systems would ovveride and avoid each other (in theory..... )
Old 30-01-2006, 10:33 AM
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If that plane was as closeas it seems it would have fallen out the sky from the turbulance the front plane throws up.

I forget the correct term for the void of air a plane leaves behind it, but its lethal to other planes within a mile behind it.
Old 30-01-2006, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowy_Astra
If that plane was as closeas it seems it would have fallen out the sky from the turbulance the front plane throws up.

I forget the correct term for the void of air a plane leaves behind it, but its lethal to other planes within a mile behind it.
Yep - it's called wake turbulence and if a plane was to pass through it immediately after it had passed it would be like passing through a mini-tornado, possibly not enough to cause it to crash but enough to give the pilot a fright!

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Old 30-01-2006, 03:45 PM
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Old 30-01-2006, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lmans123
people saying that does look to close.would views be the same if you was on it?

yes, becaus eif you was on it you would see that actually they are quite a way apart!
Old 30-01-2006, 05:17 PM
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They could also be lined up to land on parallel runways
Old 30-01-2006, 06:48 PM
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Let's not forget they are at least 3 miles apart!
Old 30-01-2006, 06:49 PM
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2 miles is for a near miss
Old 30-01-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
2 miles is for a near miss
Well....within three nauticle miles....
Old 30-01-2006, 07:36 PM
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Pic from the back window


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Old 30-01-2006, 07:42 PM
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The DHL plane is an A300 which has a wingspan of 147 feet
The JAL plane is a 777 which has a wingspan of 199 feet

So whilst they are close its not less than (est) 200 feet height.
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Originally Posted by Rhys
2 miles is for a near miss
Well....within three nauticle miles....

none of these are correct, it is the air traffic controllers and/or the pilots call to report a near miss, separation standards are 1000ft vertical separation or 5 miles or 8 km horizontal separation for aircraft at same altitude but these can and are reduced by pilots who adopt a "see and avoid policy", hope that clears it up
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Originally Posted by mcgoo
Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Originally Posted by Rhys
2 miles is for a near miss
Well....within three nauticle miles....

none of these are correct, it is the air traffic controllers and/or the pilots call to report a near miss, separation standards are 1000ft vertical separation or 5 miles or 8 km horizontal separation for aircraft at same altitude but these can and are reduced by pilots who adopt a "see and avoid policy", hope that clears it up
I'm not expert...only going on what was written in black and white. But as I mentioned from the programme I watched recently when facing a near miss situation the planes 't-cas' systems kick in and tell pilots to take evasive actions.
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Read in some of the papers today that totally dismissed it, as stated above the angle shows no where near the height difference. This happens regularly, and they are miles apart...well not literally. Just from the floor looks a lot worse than it is.
Old 31-01-2006, 02:30 AM
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That's what the Yanky Nascar guys call Drafting!

DRAFTING

The practice of two or more cars, while racing, to run nose-to-tail, almost touching. The lead car, by displacing the air in front of it, creates a vacuum between its rear end and the nose of the following car, actually pulling the second car along with it.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
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I'd be dead proud if i took that photo though

Something to tell the kids innit
Old 31-01-2006, 08:00 AM
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that could have been messy....
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Old 31-01-2006, 10:37 AM
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Bloody DHL drivers, all the same.
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