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Old 21-01-2006, 05:50 PM
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Default RST Suspension......

I think that since my Koni's are now 6 years old (kindly supplied by Mike R back in the day!!), I must soon consider replacing them.

The car has started to feel a little more twitchy, which could be on account of the increased power or could be due to the old suspension, or perhaps a bit of both!!

Anyway, I don't want to spend a fortune on it and have considered just replacing the Koni's.

Alternatively, I have considered putting Coilovers on the front and Koni's on the back.

Any other idea's??

What Coilovers/Shocks should I consider?
Old 21-01-2006, 07:13 PM
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CheeRS for all your useful advice guys. I feel so much better about my choices now.
Old 21-01-2006, 07:15 PM
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havent got a clue im afraid mate
But on the same subject can you supply lowering springs?
Old 21-01-2006, 07:15 PM
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I need to sort mine out too ASAP
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avoid gaz beach off here has them on his saph only months old and there all leaking
Old 21-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by puss
havent got a clue im afraid mate
But on the same subject can you supply lowering springs?
Yes I can. My favourites for the RST are the ones I run and they aren't very expensive. They are available in 'Low' and 'Stupidly Low'.
Old 21-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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Coilover's are always best in my opinion but most expensive as you know. I think Leda do good quality unit's for reasonable prices.
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I would say coilovers on front AND rear if you're willing to do the work to the car??

Your first thinking of fronts only is also a good choice, but new rear koni's
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I was kinda worried about the Gaz option. Is there anything between them and Bilstein??
Old 21-01-2006, 07:21 PM
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How much for the same as what your running? im running on koni shocks aswell
Old 21-01-2006, 07:22 PM
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these are mine i have on my ka, tey were built at Leda and im very happy with them

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https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107112
Old 21-01-2006, 07:24 PM
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have you thought of MEF MOTORSPORT / NUTS RuS ' coilovers front and rear with adjustable wishbones/tie rods etc?

after doing rallies in the 16i , i can definateley say its the way forward m8


i think Oli has this setup too as do a few others
Old 21-01-2006, 07:24 PM
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Got Billies on my car all round. They are not as road friendly as the Konis at the moment but that may be down to it's set up.

Coil overs are a bit of a twat to set up compared to Konis. You ned to know what damping rate you want, what spring rate you want, what sping length you want, if you want to run helper springs.

With Konis, you just fit them.
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Originally Posted by puss
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107112
But £700 for a pair of fronts?????

If I had a Skyline, I could buy a full set of Teins for that (and not bottom of the range either!!).

For the price of the set of 4 Bilsteins, I could have Teins Top Spec Kit with Adjustable bodies, 16-postition Damping adjustment, Pillowball Top Mounts and a fully programmable in-car Damping-rate adjustment unit with Memory function and still have some change.
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gaz it is then
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i will get my coat
anyway how much for the springs
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Originally Posted by puss
i will get my coat
anyway how much for the springs
Not sure offhand, but under a ton. PM me nearer Monday and I will have a look when I get back to work.
Old 21-01-2006, 07:39 PM
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Fronts are £275 each without the spherical bearing top mounts.

They are uprated thick wall competition spec units, not just cheap road spec, priced similar to AVO competition units (not thick walled) and cheaper than Leda (2.5 inch springs)
Old 21-01-2006, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KA ZETEC
these are mine i have on my ka, tey were built at Leda and im very happy with them

Are these Remote Reservoir Coilovers?

Why not try something like H&R Christian, thought these were meant to be pretty good!
Old 21-01-2006, 08:53 PM
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yes they are remote cylindered coil overs
Old 21-01-2006, 09:54 PM
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Must have cost abit fella!

Who set them up for you btw?

Christian, did you sort any tyres out in the end mate?
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as we are on about escort suspension, what are the advantages of running top mounts?
Will be with coilovers, adj tca, and adj tie bars.

Would they (top mounts) be a worthwhile addition to this set up?

Will be using either gaz or avo coilovers on a mk3 escort.

cheers
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With your ability to adjust everything else then YES they would be a worthwhile addition Benn

Wont gain any measurable specific advantages, but it releases the stresses put on the suspension tops keeping them all seated and mounted correctly.
Old 21-01-2006, 10:09 PM
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cool cheers Tony

Another thing to add to the list then
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i quie like spax
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Originally Posted by Dan
Christian, did you sort any tyres out in the end mate?
Yes, I went for 205/45/16 Eagle F1 GS-D3's!!

I thought that the Toyo's were just too hard and I can already feel the difference with the F1's.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
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Christian, did you sort any tyres out in the end mate?
Yes, I went for 205/45/16 Eagle F1 GS-D3's!!

I thought that the Toyo's were just too hard and I can already feel the difference with the F1's.
Ah good, glad to hear you got something sorted in the end as I know you said it was becoming abit of a mare!

Will that tyre size effect your Top Speed in any way at all, as you ran 195's before didn't you?
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by puss
i will get my coat
anyway how much for the springs
Not sure offhand, but under a ton. PM me nearer Monday and I will have a look when I get back to work.

Will do cheers
Old 22-01-2006, 07:34 AM
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ive had koni,gaz coilovers and now use bilsteins(MEF)

all are ok depending on what your gonna do with the car
the ride ive got on the bilsteins is pretty good
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Christian, did you sort any tyres out in the end mate?
Yes, I went for 205/45/16 Eagle F1 GS-D3's!!

I thought that the Toyo's were just too hard and I can already feel the difference with the F1's.
Ah good, glad to hear you got something sorted in the end as I know you said it was becoming abit of a mare!

Will that tyre size effect your Top Speed in any way at all, as you ran 195's before didn't you?
Yes, I reckon the extra circumference gained with the 205/45/16's would be enough to give it that extra little bit!! If only I had done that in November. I reckon we would have seen 170mph.
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It sounds to me as though the Bilsteins are great, but in all honesty, probably over-specced for a Road car. I really aren't up for spending a 4-figure sum on the suspension. I reckon I'm gonna end up with Koni's again.

Incidentally, what are AVO like quality-wise, compared to Gaz? Remember, I aren't after rally-spec, I don't intend to race it on Gravel circuits or clear 6-foot leaps over crests etc.

However, I want to justify my suspension set-up which is already quite good.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
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Christian, did you sort any tyres out in the end mate?
Yes, I went for 205/45/16 Eagle F1 GS-D3's!!

I thought that the Toyo's were just too hard and I can already feel the difference with the F1's.
Ah good, glad to hear you got something sorted in the end as I know you said it was becoming abit of a mare!

Will that tyre size effect your Top Speed in any way at all, as you ran 195's before didn't you?
Yes, I reckon the extra circumference gained with the 205/45/16's would be enough to give it that extra little bit!! If only I had done that in November. I reckon we would have seen 170mph.
You'll have to get another run lined up abit quick then mate! Can't wait!
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Originally Posted by Dan
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
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Christian, did you sort any tyres out in the end mate?
Yes, I went for 205/45/16 Eagle F1 GS-D3's!!

I thought that the Toyo's were just too hard and I can already feel the difference with the F1's.
Ah good, glad to hear you got something sorted in the end as I know you said it was becoming abit of a mare!

Will that tyre size effect your Top Speed in any way at all, as you ran 195's before didn't you?
Yes, I reckon the extra circumference gained with the 205/45/16's would be enough to give it that extra little bit!! If only I had done that in November. I reckon we would have seen 170mph.
You'll have to get another run lined up abit quick then mate! Can't wait!
I wish events like this were more frequent. I just don't know when I will get the opportunity to try it again.
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I would like to go Coilovers all round but whats involved in doing the rears? Can it be done without altering all the rear set-up?

If only there were more people after cheaper Coilovers because I reckon I could get some made, but the run would need to be more than the interest I could ever get from here!

I love the look of the MEF set-up, but the whole thing costs £££££'s??
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Christian, if you need to borrow my backs for a week or two just give us a shout. They will fit with NO MODS required anywhere.

The cars layed up for winter now.


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