Did you know this about the handbrake on a cossie ?
20-01-2006, 07:05 PM
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Did you know this about the handbrake on a cossie ?
Was getting my shed MOT'ed today and was chatting to the guy
doing the test and got talking about brakes.
Anyway, he told me his mate had his cossie that rolled down a hill
because his handbrake was NOT on properly and the disks cooled and the
rear brakes released slightly letting it roll away - keeerrrunch
He said that, the proper way to put the handbrake on was to depress the
footpedal hard THEN apply the handbrake in all circumstances as this is
how it was designed to work.
Is this true or just a myth ?
doing the test and got talking about brakes.
Anyway, he told me his mate had his cossie that rolled down a hill
because his handbrake was NOT on properly and the disks cooled and the
rear brakes released slightly letting it roll away - keeerrrunch
He said that, the proper way to put the handbrake on was to depress the
footpedal hard THEN apply the handbrake in all circumstances as this is
how it was designed to work.
Is this true or just a myth ?
20-01-2006, 07:10 PM
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the theory is possible on any rear disked car, if you've been hammering it the disks expand under the heat, when left to cool/parked the shrink thus release the braking pressure.
the new mini had a particular problem with this, i tink the BM fix was to fit vented discs at the rear.
i always leave mine in gear anyway so should be alright. ish.
the new mini had a particular problem with this, i tink the BM fix was to fit vented discs at the rear.
i always leave mine in gear anyway so should be alright. ish.
20-01-2006, 07:13 PM
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thats wrong simon, the correct way is ti PRESS the brake pedal harder and the leaver will come up a few more clicks
speak to stu to confirm
that bloke as heard the instructions wrong
speak to stu to confirm
that bloke as heard the instructions wrong
20-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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Re: Did you know this about the handbrake on a cossie ?
Originally Posted by SECS
He said that, the proper way to put the handbrake on was to depress the
footpedal hard THEN apply the handbrake in all circumstances as this is
how it was designed to work.
Is this true or just a myth ?
footpedal hard THEN apply the handbrake in all circumstances as this is
how it was designed to work.
Is this true or just a myth ?
In fact, to prove it, apply normally and then depress footbrake and tug the handbrake again, see how many extra clicks you get
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20-01-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
thats wrong simon, the correct way is ti PRESS the brake pedal harder and the leaver will come up a few more clicks
speak to stu to confirm
that bloke as heard the instructions wrong
speak to stu to confirm
that bloke as heard the instructions wrong
I am sure that IS what is said on my first post ginge
20-01-2006, 07:21 PM
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just finding my feet
dont depress mean take foot on the brake and then apply hand brake
sorry but im not good with normal words made longer to appear to be fancy words,,,,,,,,
PRESS the brake pedal hard
depress the brake pedal hard,,,,,,,,,,,,,, why use that work unless it mes de as in deactivate and pedal meaning to no activate the pedel
might just be me though
sorry but im not good with normal words made longer to appear to be fancy words,,,,,,,,
PRESS the brake pedal hard
depress the brake pedal hard,,,,,,,,,,,,,, why use that work unless it mes de as in deactivate and pedal meaning to no activate the pedel
might just be me though
20-01-2006, 07:31 PM
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I picture ginge with fingers like cow's teats - either that or he types with a wand like steven hawkins!
No offence dude, but try pressing the keys one at a time
It's true about the calipers like - it's obvious when you see one in bits - the leverage off the handbrake pawls is poor
Neil.
No offence dude, but try pressing the keys one at a time
It's true about the calipers like - it's obvious when you see one in bits - the leverage off the handbrake pawls is poor
Neil.
20-01-2006, 07:37 PM
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no just when you lot was in school reading and buying the teachers apples i was behind the bike sheds
i make no denial that ive not got a great education,,,,,,,, but i own a flat smaller than most peoples garages and its worth more than most of the members on this boards houses
not to mention i own 5 cars and dont have 1 single loan based on em
so for a illiterate fool i seem to get by quite well in life i belive
so not knowing how to type has held me back loads ive found
oh and we might have just bought a 3 bed house in oxford too,,,,,, but where not sure yet due to the chain bollox
so make fun all you like,,,,,,,, you should actually be pissed that a idiot like me has managed to find luck
no hard feelings like
i make no denial that ive not got a great education,,,,,,,, but i own a flat smaller than most peoples garages and its worth more than most of the members on this boards houses
not to mention i own 5 cars and dont have 1 single loan based on em
so for a illiterate fool i seem to get by quite well in life i belive
so not knowing how to type has held me back loads ive found
oh and we might have just bought a 3 bed house in oxford too,,,,,, but where not sure yet due to the chain bollox
so make fun all you like,,,,,,,, you should actually be pissed that a idiot like me has managed to find luck
no hard feelings like
20-01-2006, 07:41 PM
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LOL easy tiger, I wasn't being nasty... I'm not suggesting you're illiterate, just that you TYPE like an illiterate
I'm struggling to make the connection between your education, house size, luck and your typing
No hard feelings here either
I'm struggling to make the connection between your education, house size, luck and your typing
No hard feelings here either
20-01-2006, 07:57 PM
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Re: Did you know this about the handbrake on a cossie ?
Originally Posted by SECS
He said that, the proper way to put the handbrake on was to depress the
footpedal hard THEN apply the handbrake.
This is wot i do wen i launch my fiecos, as i use the hand brake and clutch to fully load the transmission before i let it see 7250 rpm.
20-01-2006, 09:24 PM
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Re: Did you know this about the handbrake on a cossie ?
Originally Posted by SECS
Anyway, he told me his mate had his cossie that rolled down a hill because his handbrake was NOT on properly and the disks cooled and the
rear brakes released slightly letting it roll away - keeerrrunch
rear brakes released slightly letting it roll away - keeerrrunch
20-01-2006, 10:15 PM
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CANT BE ARSED TO READ IT ALL>
BUT
New mondeos were recalled to have this problem solved.
Mine rolled down my drive after a thrashing- its only a TDCi version too.
Could prob happen to anything disc braked I am sure
BUT
New mondeos were recalled to have this problem solved.
Mine rolled down my drive after a thrashing- its only a TDCi version too.
Could prob happen to anything disc braked I am sure
21-01-2006, 12:25 AM
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but i own a flat smaller than most peoples garages and its worth more than most of the members on this boards houses
I'd rather have a big house thats worth less, than a pokey flat thats worth more Okay, okay, from a money point of view fine, but I'd still take a house 
Originally Posted by b19bal
not to mention i own 5 cars and dont have 1 single loan based on em
21-01-2006, 08:13 AM
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never knew to press brake pedal then pull handbrake on
citroen xantias were recalled years ago due to this rear disc cooling prob, dont know how they fixed it though!
theres a very simple solution.....leave it in gear
...and above all the handbrake on a car
bal is there any thread that isnt full of your waffle, you need your own forum for your random outbursts
citroen xantias were recalled years ago due to this rear disc cooling prob, dont know how they fixed it though!
theres a very simple solution.....leave it in gear
Originally Posted by Neil S
I'm struggling to make the connection between your education, house size, luck and your typing
bal is there any thread that isnt full of your waffle, you need your own forum for your random outbursts
21-01-2006, 08:42 AM
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Yep my Cossie rolled away down my drive once
I had been out testing some new plugs, then I pulled up in the drive (you only need to press the brakes lightly even on steep hills to hold it there) and used the handbrake whilst I left the engine running to fiddle under the bonnet (I always leave my cars in gear when I park usually and the Cossie always went in the garage). Anyway, I finished messing, dropped the bonnet and turned the engine off and went inside. Glanced out of the window to see my freshly painted cossie rolling towards the main road and my gate post.
I ran outside and caught the car up as it was crossing the pavement/grass verge so stood behind it, using my weight an everything I had to stop it going on the road Once it had stopped I was dreading looking at the other side of the car as I expected to see dents and scrapes all down it from the 7ft high brick gatepost. Fortunately I must have been the luckiest guy in the world as it left a small scratch in the rear bumper, took some paint off my new Compomotive MOs (at the base where they stick out about 2mm more than the bodywork due to camber) and knocked the door mirror off.
The fact that is took paint off the back wheel shows how bloody close it came to taking out the entire side of the car!
So this shows you not only need to press the brake whilst applying the handbrake, but you need to press it HARD!
I had been out testing some new plugs, then I pulled up in the drive (you only need to press the brakes lightly even on steep hills to hold it there) and used the handbrake whilst I left the engine running to fiddle under the bonnet (I always leave my cars in gear when I park usually and the Cossie always went in the garage). Anyway, I finished messing, dropped the bonnet and turned the engine off and went inside. Glanced out of the window to see my freshly painted cossie rolling towards the main road and my gate post.
I ran outside and caught the car up as it was crossing the pavement/grass verge so stood behind it, using my weight an everything I had to stop it going on the road
Once it had stopped I was dreading looking at the other side of the car as I expected to see dents and scrapes all down it from the 7ft high brick gatepost. Fortunately I must have been the luckiest guy in the world as it left a small scratch in the rear bumper, took some paint off my new Compomotive MOs (at the base where they stick out about 2mm more than the bodywork due to camber) and knocked the door mirror off.The fact that is took paint off the back wheel shows how bloody close it came to taking out the entire side of the car!
So this shows you not only need to press the brake whilst applying the handbrake, but you need to press it HARD!
21-01-2006, 05:33 PM
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xantia is a interesting one actually, the handbrake is on the front callipers on these so the problem in theory would be much worse as obviously it takes less work to cook the fronts than the back!
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