help please j plate 4x4 engine into 2wd saff what to change?
19-01-2006, 10:51 AM
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help please j plate 4x4 engine into 2wd saff what to change?
hi as above really i have a g plate saff cos and a 4x4 engine out of a j plate saff i have just found out today that my nice nearly new zorst wont fit,(anybody got a 2wd zorst and need a 4wd one ?) but what do i do about engine mounts power steering belt/pulleys/pumps(i have both 2wd and 4wd pumps)i have a 2wd sump on the way thanks to 3dr rally slag cheers paul ,uummmm 
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19-01-2006, 11:07 AM
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not convinced that you can't use a 4x4 exhaust on a 2wd. 
the downpipes are different length i believe, but i suppose that you will be using the 4x4 exhaust manifold anyway, so you'll want the 4x4 downpipe.
what make of exhaust is it? i've got a power engineering stainless 2wd exhaust system that i would probably swap with you.
you need 2wd engine mounts and alloy arms that bolt to the block, but they're the same as any pinto engined sierra.
as for all things driven by front belts, why can't you keep the 4x4 stuff with poly-vee belt?
the downpipes are different length i believe, but i suppose that you will be using the 4x4 exhaust manifold anyway, so you'll want the 4x4 downpipe.
what make of exhaust is it? i've got a power engineering stainless 2wd exhaust system that i would probably swap with you.
you need 2wd engine mounts and alloy arms that bolt to the block, but they're the same as any pinto engined sierra.
as for all things driven by front belts, why can't you keep the 4x4 stuff with poly-vee belt?
19-01-2006, 11:19 AM
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the downpipes are different length i believe, but i suppose that you will be using the 4x4 exhaust manifold anyway, so you'll want the 4x4 downpipe
A: yeap still using the 4wd manifold
what make of exhaust is it?
A:not sure on the make mate i cant find any stamps etc its got a number on a white sticker FB**** i cant remember now i will have to pop up me garage to take some pics(it seems to have really shiny exhaust boxes not just dull silver
)
i've got a power engineering stainless 2wd exhaust system that i would probably swap with you.
A: sounds good mate i will have to find out exactly what i need to fit my motor downpipe etc
you need 2wd engine mounts and alloy arms that bolt to the block, but they're the same as any pinto engined sierra.
:cool i think i got some of them somewhere
as for all things driven by front belts, why can't you keep the 4x4 stuff with poly-vee belt?
A: isnt the power steering pump on opposite sides ???
cheers for your help mate
A: yeap still using the 4wd manifold
what make of exhaust is it?
A:not sure on the make mate i cant find any stamps etc its got a number on a white sticker FB**** i cant remember now i will have to pop up me garage to take some pics(it seems to have really shiny exhaust boxes not just dull silver
)i've got a power engineering stainless 2wd exhaust system that i would probably swap with you.
A: sounds good mate i will have to find out exactly what i need to fit my motor downpipe etc
you need 2wd engine mounts and alloy arms that bolt to the block, but they're the same as any pinto engined sierra.
:cool i think i got some of them somewhere
as for all things driven by front belts, why can't you keep the 4x4 stuff with poly-vee belt?
A: isnt the power steering pump on opposite sides ???
cheers for your help mate
19-01-2006, 11:33 AM
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i put 2wd PAS on my escort, so no reason why you cant put the other way around
you need diff cross memeber, and diff engine mounts
different oil pickup pipe
you need diff cross memeber, and diff engine mounts
different oil pickup pipe
19-01-2006, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
i put 2wd PAS on my escort, so no reason why you cant put the other way around
you need diff cross memeber, and diff engine mounts
different oil pickup pipe
you need diff cross memeber, and diff engine mounts
different oil pickup pipe
cheers again
19-01-2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
What about oil filter fixings etc isnt it located different on 4x4?
but because he's going to 2wd setup he will be ok,
tho saying that he might need a different mocal? oil cooler thing
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19-01-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by St3V3_C
Originally Posted by Spiky
oil cooler thing
but you might be right about it being different
if he needs one i'm pretty sure paul has one in the garage,
but not 100% sure
19-01-2006, 12:32 PM
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AAAAARRRHHHHHHHHHHHHi havent even drove the thing yet and look at the problems already
great init ,it will be worth it in the end think of all the rear wheel steering
19-01-2006, 01:08 PM
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Right,I will say this only once more the exhaust are different,there are other things you will have to change but if you keep listening to people on here who havnt got a clue you will fill your head with crap and not know what to do,my number is in my sig one phone call will sort our all your probelms and all the correct inforamtion you need.
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Right,I will say this only once more the exhaust are different,there are other things you will have to change but if you keep listening to people on here who havnt got a clue you will fill your head with crap and not know what to do,my number is in my sig one phone call will sort our all your probelms and all the correct inforamtion you need.
firstly, nice one on the offer
secondly, insulting people isn't nice
bullies should not be tollerated
19-01-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Right,I will say this only once more the exhaust are different,there are other things you will have to change but if you keep listening to people on here who havnt got a clue you will fill your head with crap and not know what to do,my number is in my sig one phone call will sort our all your probelms and all the correct inforamtion you need.
firstly, nice one on the offer
secondly, insulting people isn't nice
bullies should not be tollerated
19-01-2006, 01:53 PM
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hi pete thanks for your help i will write out a list hopefully tonight of all the bits im unsure of and i will give you a buzz tomorrow or monday mate
19-01-2006, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by fatboyz
hi pete thanks for your help i will write out a list hopefully tonight of all the bits im unsure of and i will give you a buzz tomorrow or monday mate
20-06-2009, 09:24 PM
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the things you need to change om the 4wd to 2wd items are
exhaust manifold from 4wd to 2wd, easiest option
sump
oil pick up
engine mount arms
you can take the remote oil filter off and put it back to a 2wd aswell if you want
engine loom needs modding as sensors are in different places
now if your 4wd engine has a multi groove belt and the 2wd is twin belt then take the 4wd pullies off and put 2wd on, and the p/s pump will go as in a 2wd place so inlet side as the 4wd block has the holes for the p/s bracket
if you want to run the multi ribbed belt then put the 2wd al bracket on and change the alt the pull, then use the std 2wd p/s bracketa again and a fan belt off a 2wd onto the front of the 4wd as it has the groove for a single belt as this is what the aircon is driven off
exhaust manifold from 4wd to 2wd, easiest option
sump
oil pick up
engine mount arms
you can take the remote oil filter off and put it back to a 2wd aswell if you want
engine loom needs modding as sensors are in different places
now if your 4wd engine has a multi groove belt and the 2wd is twin belt then take the 4wd pullies off and put 2wd on, and the p/s pump will go as in a 2wd place so inlet side as the 4wd block has the holes for the p/s bracket
if you want to run the multi ribbed belt then put the 2wd al bracket on and change the alt the pull, then use the std 2wd p/s bracketa again and a fan belt off a 2wd onto the front of the 4wd as it has the groove for a single belt as this is what the aircon is driven off
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