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Old 18-01-2006, 10:02 PM
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rick a 24v cossie is the bit in the middle, in standard form will rev to 6k power all the way up, not like a 2.9 or 2.8 which is a piece of shit. 24v will rev to 7.5 k if you have the late block which means 300 bhp with TB and ECU
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I know which engines last longer without a rebuild.

It is hard for people to understand how a 24v goes if they have never been in one

As i have both i think i can comment.

The power of a 24v just keeps coming, no suden rush like a turbo so you don't feel it is that special but it is.

I like mine a lot, so easy to drive, more relaxing than the yb.

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Old 18-01-2006, 10:03 PM
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and if u want all that low down grunt PROPERLY,try a supercharged merc! with auto,then you can be REALLY lazy!me mum has a slk230 Kompressor,lovely lazy car!just not gonna be my thing for another 25 odd years though!
Old 18-01-2006, 10:15 PM
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yes big wig, fook me a SLK Kompressor thats my type of engine, but a fookin gay car


I work for a newspaper and I drive all the fancy cars, If you forget noise and dodgy handling, fancy toys a 24v 4x4 is right up there, why does not Ford produce such a car. the ST220 is not quite there
Old 18-01-2006, 10:22 PM
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well i planned on sticking my yb in my xr4x4 as i did last time for everyday use

but ive decided to go the 24v route just for reliability and use my yb in something different for weekends and to have fun in

they are both good engines but totally different so u carnt rally compare a 24v to a yb as there totally different cars
Old 18-01-2006, 10:29 PM
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I agree with whats being said , but I cannot place PON,s comments is the big chined wonder on the beers or am I
Old 18-01-2006, 10:35 PM
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Big chinned?

What the fuck is that supposed to be mean?

Tell you - for someone who's actually proud of driving round in shed of a car, you aint half got some front.

Why place the post - it's a 24v cossie engine and it's more torquey than a cossie? Who gives a shit?

You're just trying to justify the fact that you drive round in a car whose wheels are worth more than the rest of the entire package.

Keep justifying your modified council estate shitheap. I wouldn't be proud. The sierra's only real redeeming feature is its 16v YB and your doesn't even have that.

What a weapon of a car
Old 18-01-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
drive a 24v or any new v6 or v8 they are much better cars, power with out the boy racer rush, not as much fun, but so much more useable
dad used to have a twin turbo mitsu 3000gt, load of shit imo, may as well have been a derv for how it drove. big whack from like 13rpm, fuck all from 4500k apart from noise revless piece of turd with a torque curve that peaks too early then drops quicker than ima in a brawl with chip

now if were talking straight 6 then his replacement car fits my bill.....



...revs nicely with a huge powerband peak power at 7900??

as for 24v's ive no idea, dont even know what the xr4*4 was that me and tim bought but that too drove like shit bucket that seemed to make no more power with rpm
Old 18-01-2006, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Big chinned?

What the fuck is that supposed to be mean?
it means you have a big chin you mardy fucker
Old 18-01-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Big chinned?

What the fuck is that supposed to be mean?
it means you have a big chin you mardy fucker
Yes, but I know you Matt, so that comment can be justified, as I know you're a fat bastard.
Old 18-01-2006, 10:50 PM
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dont know me that well thesedays then
Old 18-01-2006, 10:53 PM
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Alright - ugly fucker. That definitely wont have changed
Old 18-01-2006, 10:59 PM
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thats better
Old 18-01-2006, 11:10 PM
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Oh the pain
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i wouldnt ever want a sierra with only 230bhp, so pretty acedemic really

but if building one again i would go for a LS2 without a doubt, best of both worlds then
Old 19-01-2006, 08:12 AM
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I agree with you PON, The sierra is a old rep mobile with no class( then again it has good motor sport pedagree even the xr4x4 has some). So yes somtimes I feel like a chav driving it. I belive its better than feeling like a fooking gay lord driving a MR2 hair dresser car.

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Originally Posted by chip-3door

but if building one again i would go for a LS2 without a doubt, best of both worlds then
Would be fun

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Old 19-01-2006, 08:56 AM
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funny thread johnny sounds almost like one of my old ones next you'll be saying how much better the 24v is over the old 12v

go for the ultimate road experience and get a a engine that has torque from the off

there's no replacement for cubic displacement
Old 19-01-2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
but if building one again i would go for a LS2 without a doubt, best of both worlds then
Agree, big, very understressed at bigish outputs, lighter than you think, cheap parts... its all good
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Originally Posted by chip-3door
but if building one again i would go for a LS2 without a doubt, best of both worlds then
Agree, big, very understressed at bigish outputs, lighter than you think, cheap parts... its all good
If i do another project after the mini, it will defintely be Ls2 powered.

Possibly an E30 beamer, or maybe into the Custard, silly thing is i can probably get as much for the YB+turbo+ecu+injectors etc as an LS2 would cost anyway, so its not even like its an expensive conversion!
Old 19-01-2006, 09:13 AM
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LS2 some V8 engine?
Old 19-01-2006, 09:15 AM
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LS2 = vauxhalls finest

400bhp, 140kg, 6 bolt mains, its a 200,000 mile reliable engine with awesome performance per KG

One of the best engines ever made.
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yeah tis a chevy lump
Old 19-01-2006, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
yes its a more tuneable engine, but if you want a 230 bhp sierra for day to day use 24v cossie engine is the one to choose.
Who the hell wants a 230bhp Sierra for everyday use?

Worst choice of car ever!
I kinda disagree with that, a standard Cossie is just fine for the drive to work and the shops and stuff. Sure more power would be nice but as an averagly capable and comfortable car for the daily grind it fits the bill IMO.

Sure I drive a Stg 3 Cossie to work and back but.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
yes big wig, fook me a SLK Kompressor thats my type of engine, but a fookin gay car
Too true :gayflag:
Old 19-01-2006, 09:42 AM
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SLK compressor is a terrible engine IMHO! yuk... nasty, dull and with no character!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
SLK compressor is a terrible engine IMHO! yuk... nasty, dull and with no character!
perfectly suited to the SLK then
Old 19-01-2006, 09:53 AM
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Lee's right the really are pants
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Originally Posted by DazC
Originally Posted by RichardPON
........ or really cares
The important bit!

Markk, you van has twice as many cylinders compared to the YB!!!
....and thats why its better


After driving the trans am then the turbo'd capri, i can honestly say my biggest mistake was not putting a V8 in the capri. Nothing beats the big cc V8s, you can have big turbo power, no lag, power EVERYWHERE in the rev range, and alot better reliability with hardly any decrease in fuel consumption.

I dare say the trans am had less power than the capri has now, it was worn, it smoked, it was 50% heavier yet felt more of an animal....it just gave you a kick that turbod engines cant......

The thing with YBs though, is you can get a great power increase for hardly any expense and work. Swap a chip, turn up the boost and you have 70 brake. lol....Thats their best quality.

Other than that, ya can keep your turbos. I want my cc's back
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
i wouldnt ever want a sierra with only 230bhp, so pretty acedemic really

but if building one again i would go for a LS2 without a doubt, best of both worlds then
They ARE a truly great engine.

I dont care how basic they seem, they give 400bhp for less weight than a pinto (assumption), C of G is low, fit straight upto a 6 speed box, sound awesome, tune to unimaginable power figures, very cheap to own/repair/modify.

A sound choice....im inclined to agree with you, only i would probably buy the rest of the car with it.
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Originally Posted by Porkie
SLK compressor is a terrible engine IMHO! yuk... nasty, dull and with no character!
hmmmm.well my mums HOWLS when you stomp on the throttle! goes proper quick,easy match for a stg1 saff and i think it looks ok myself,lovely interior too!mercs are proper motors IMO
ok its a touch hairdressy,but it IS my mums!
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I don't care about the hairdresser image at all. Its just a wank engine in my opinion. Not saying its not fast either! just DULL in its noise, character and power delivery.
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
I agree with you PON, The sierra is a old rep mobile with no class( then again it has good motor sport pedagree even the xr4x4 has some). So yes somtimes I feel like a chav driving it. I belive its better than feeling like a fooking gay lord driving a MR2 hair dresser car.

Yes, but the difference is I don't feel like a "gay lord" as you put it, as I'm driving a mid-engined sportscar that's a shed load faster than your Ł50 autotrader special

But I don't mind - I have a choice of cars to use, admittedly not all mine, but at least I'm not restricted to one complete heap of shit such as yourself.

Sometimes you feel like a chav driving it? Maybe you should realise that you probably look like a chav driving it ALL the time!

Anyhow, aside from your banger, make sure you say hello at Central Day, as I assume you'll be there. I'll intorduce myself, and then you can insult me to my face. I fuckin LOVE retribution.

Simon - nice addition. Keep going. I'm in the process of tracking down each and every person you owe money or product to, and the list is growing!
Old 19-01-2006, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Sometimes you feel like a chav driving it? Maybe you should realise that you probably look like a chav driving it ALL the time!
pmsl at johnny being a chav!!!! he's a old man lol lol
Old 19-01-2006, 11:02 AM
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i disagee totally, i usedd my stage 1 4x4 for 2yrs as an everyday car, RRoaded at 279, did 200miles aday approx and thought it was great, loved every minute, thats town and motorway driving, granted my St24 is more refined but only stopped driving my cossie everyday cos the miles, and parking where i parked was ruining the bodywork
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Then the Sierra image suits his whinging flat cap wearing personality down to the ground.
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Xr4x4's are only good for towing, we all know that surely?

Rob

ps mine has fluffy dice i really wish i had a capri beaded seat covers are next
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Anyhow, aside from your banger, make sure you say hello at Central Day, as I assume you'll be there. I'll intorduce myself, and then you can insult me to my face. I fuckin LOVE retribution.


chins at 10 paces
Old 19-01-2006, 11:39 AM
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Too right Matt!

I'm about as subtle as the Claw himself
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Pon I am more than happy to introduce my self as ROB knows I like to mingle. I will find you as am 6.2 and I will be able to see your chin from a large distance



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