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Old 07-01-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Have i fooked my clutch???

Driving it today, giving it beans to drop the missus off & on the way back to mine, while in 4th & 5th she seems to be slipping?!?!?!

Taking it easy, trying to come on boost nice & easy but once she's passed 1bar ish all hell breaks loose up to 1.9 with no power...............Never had a clutch go on me this is why i'm asking.

Also the pedals sitting a good inch about the other 2, is it a self adjusting clutch on escorts??

Fooking Fords

Still can't understand why it only does it in 4th & 5th though Surely 1st through to 3rd would be a more sharsh on the clutch??

Anyone?
Old 07-01-2006, 02:32 PM
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id say you need a new clutch mate tbh

and a new cable to be on the safe side aswell

Old 07-01-2006, 02:37 PM
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I've read somewhere that the standard clutch mechanism can cause problems with uprated clutches when they don't adjust properly??

Something about them causing the clutch to drag on the flywheel
Old 07-01-2006, 02:42 PM
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what clutch is it

i had an alcon 6 paddle and it lasted 6000 miles and started to slip in 4th and 5th but ok in the rest of gears

it also scraped my flywheel

heard the best solution is to have a hydraulic clutch fitted with a paddle clutch which is what im doing nxt time and going to get martyn aat reyland to fit the hydraulic set up

also a bonus as the cltch cable wont melt anymore either
Old 07-01-2006, 02:48 PM
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Clutch cable won't melt................

Shite i'd better get my heat shield back on!!

Its a AP 4 paddle clutch, or so i'm led to believe.
Old 07-01-2006, 02:51 PM
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How long has it been in there Franco?
Old 07-01-2006, 02:51 PM
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Your clutch is much more likely to slip in 4th & 5th because there is more load on it in the higher gears.....
Old 07-01-2006, 02:52 PM
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Before Dave replies, can I be the first one to suggest a coincidence between having your missus in the car, and extra loading being put on the engine?
Old 07-01-2006, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Franco

Shite i'd better get my heat shield back on!!
Yes, before you boil your brake fluid and have no braking......
Old 07-01-2006, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Before Dave replies, can I be the first one to suggest a coincidence between having your missus in the car, and extra loading being put on the engine?
Shut it Richard you numpty!!

Bill.................

Looks like i know what i'll be ding tomorrow morning then!


Dan

Not sure fella, Gadget had it for a year but never put that much mileage on it. Seem to remember seeing paperwork for new box & clutch in 2004?!?!?

Stick with an ERST Dan..........Much cheaper & easier to work on!
Old 07-01-2006, 03:05 PM
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Old 07-01-2006, 03:06 PM
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lol Prob hasn't been in there that long then!

Cossie's are worth it in the end mate, and you know it!
Old 07-01-2006, 04:24 PM
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Well the heatshields back on now so thats one less thing to worry about!!

So do i replace the AP with an alcon 6 paddle?? choices choices choices!
Also do you really need to change the cover plate if theres still plenty of meat on it??
Old 07-01-2006, 04:33 PM
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Try leaving it to cool, then take it for a blast, you could have just cooked it, did it a couple of times on my std clutch which was NEW...

Also behind the heatshield where the cable goes into the bulkhead, pull the big plastic bit as hard as you can out of the bulkhead, then let it pop back into the bulkhead....

I Launched away from the essex meet once, properly sidestepped the clutch and all the way home did what you describe, the next morning id did the above, took it for a spin and all was fine.. try it
Old 07-01-2006, 05:03 PM
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Yeah i did think that i might of cooked it Damo, but i'll give that a try in the morning.

I take it you mean the big black cable (which has a large foamish cover?)
Old 07-01-2006, 05:03 PM
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Ps cheers all!!
Old 07-01-2006, 05:09 PM
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the clutch cable, bout 1CM diameter, then at the bulkhead has a plastic bit bout an inch across
Old 07-01-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Try leaving it to cool, then take it for a blast, you could have just cooked it, did it a couple of times on my std clutch which was NEW...

Also behind the heatshield where the cable goes into the bulkhead, pull the big plastic bit as hard as you can out of the bulkhead, then let it pop back into the bulkhead....

I Launched away from the essex meet once, properly sidestepped the clutch and all the way home did what you describe, the next morning id did the above, took it for a spin and all was fine.. try it
My 4 paddle does this It done it to me at the pod span in every gear then the next day was right as rain Made me look a fooking lier when i told every one my clutch was fooked!

And the other day when I booted it it done it in 1st and 2nd them was fine again weird........
Old 07-01-2006, 05:19 PM
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Fords luv................Dont you just love erm!!
Old 07-01-2006, 05:34 PM
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Sure do

And i just asked Ahmed to push a bit more out my car What have i done lol
Old 09-01-2006, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Before Dave replies, can I be the first one to suggest a coincidence between having your missus in the car, and extra loading being put on the engine?
bastard!
Old 09-01-2006, 07:33 AM
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Well well well, You stalking me Dave!!
Old 09-01-2006, 07:51 AM
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x x x x
Old 09-01-2006, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Well the heatshields back on now so thats one less thing to worry about!!

So do i replace the AP with an alcon 6 paddle?? choices choices choices!
Also do you really need to change the cover plate if theres still plenty of meat on it??
Franco,
Ditch the cable and go hydraulic, you won't regret it. If you want a kit fitting let me know.. bonus is you could get any clutch parts changed at the same time, labour free!
Old 09-01-2006, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Franco
Well the heatshields back on now so thats one less thing to worry about!!

So do i replace the AP with an alcon 6 paddle?? choices choices choices!
Also do you really need to change the cover plate if theres still plenty of meat on it??
Franco,
Ditch the cable and go hydraulic, you won't regret it. If you want a kit fitting let me know.. bonus is you could get any clutch parts changed at the same time, labour free!
Martin, Your a mind reader

Can you PM me a all in price for sorting this please? I'd phone but i'm forgetful & its a little manic at work?

If you can.

Thanks
Old 09-01-2006, 07:57 AM
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What Martin said .
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Originally Posted by Franco
I'd phone but i'm forgetful & its a little manic at work?

If you can.

Thanks
that is such a blatant fucking lie!

you're just too scared to call!

meeeeoooow!





(price from martin is pretty good though for this)
Old 09-01-2006, 08:02 AM
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Franco,
Price for supply only is on my website, I "think" Martin charges Ł2-300 labour (best to ask him though), but that includes fitting a new clutch FOC (clutch is not supplied free though ).

Would say that it almost pays for itself within two clutches, as it extends the life by almost double.
Old 09-01-2006, 08:13 AM
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David................Big Fat bollocks !

Mike. I suppose we will hac=ve to come to some sort of agreement!

Martin, What time do you finish work? etc I'll try to phone round about 6ish after i've finished work.
Old 09-01-2006, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
David................Big Fat bollocks !

Mike. I suppose we will hac=ve to come to some sort of agreement!

Martin, What time do you finish work? etc I'll try to phone round about 6ish after i've finished work.
Franco, i'm at work til 7.30 if you wish to call. The kit is Ł575 plus vat fitted all in... drive in-drive out.
Martin.
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Originally Posted by YUM360
Had no problems with my AP 6 and its done a few miles now and eaten a few boxes
I didn't have any problems for quite some time either but I had a cable snap when I was competing against another car at a Revs day and ended up loosing because of it. That was the end of clutch cables with heavy duty clutches for me. Didn't Rods car suffer with a cable failing too?

Also your clutch will not have nice feel to it compared with a hyd one. MikeR will agree with this I am sure.
Old 09-01-2006, 08:35 AM
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Excellent Martin, I'll call you then!
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