GT2

Is there a model made to be fitted to other than the japanese models, scooby, evo etc?

Cheers

Daviet

has stu@msd not got one of thesein his car

GARETH T

no stu got a boost controller


i dont know anything about the fx, but i thought it was expensive and not very clever?

GT2

The price you can get one for in Japan is very cheap actually compared to most ecu's, and seeing RC developments has one on their EVO with plenty of horsepower i can't see it beeing that unclever

Stavros

Its not a brilliant ECU at all, pretty bloody basic infact, only reason its popular is...

(A) its plug and play, plugs straight inot the cars existing loom and has a base map too.
And
(B) most modded Jap car owners have lots of cash but no clue

Unless you buy the D-Jetro model it runs off an airflow meter rather than a MAP sensor.

And they dont openly sell the software, so either have to monkey map it on the hand crontroller, or a company in New Zealand hae cracked it and sell the windows based mapping software.

Waste of time ether way for a Cossie, better off sticking with L8 and someone who can map it.

Christian and Beccy

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Steve, I hate to go against you on this one. The Power FC is actually very good. We have a good handful of 200SX's that have made over 400bhp and countless cars over 300bhp running Power FC's, both Airflow and MAP based.

Infact one of our better ones, which made 420odd at the wheels actually runs the Airflow Meter Based PFC.

It is actually a very nice system, which we map using the Datalogit.

Unfortunately some very well known tuners out there have created a bad name for the PFC by writing VERY basic maps and not doing them full justice, but we are able to successfully Fuel and Ignition Map using this system and even watch Knock to good effect. We have also tested various VVT engagement points controlled by the PFC and had good results from doing this.

OK, so its not as feature-packed as the MoTeC system, but considering that the ECU and Controller can be picked up for under £600 these days, its a genuinely good value-for-money system.

On the original subject though, I can't imagine anyone ever getting it to work on a Cossie. Maybe I'm wrong.

Stavros

Im not saying its shit, but i dont see ANY advantages it has over L8 cossie managment

GT2

So the Jetro model is also a direct replacement? No cut to fit engineloom?

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

Yes, the D-Jetro is a Plug & Play ECU too, it requires a couple of wiring modifications for the MAP Sensor and Air Temp Sensor.

But, as before, its only available for Japanese cars.

TIFF

Fiecos Dan

One of mates just fitted one to his pulser, will be around 360-420bhp once finished.


so ill have a play with it once he's fitted a few other parts.


They seem very good value, for a straight fit unit (for jap crap)

Anonymous

I cant see the point when you can get a DTA EXP48 for the same money, or an SECS or a secondhand P8 PRO

As above, only reason they are popular is cause they are easy to fit, and in the case of a cossie they arent as easy to fit as an SECS S8

Porkie

iTrader: (1)

and guess what ECU the Skyline has...

GT2

Well if you can get a SECS unit delivered that is

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

dta does it for me lol looked into all the piggy back wire in watever items for a few extra quid might as well go for a purpose built ecu

cheers jay

rapidcossie

power FC is a good bit of kit..

a few of my mates run this set up mapped by a certain Andy F!

he runs the same system on his 210 mph scooby, cant be that bad can it!

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

Chip, they are far less involved than a full Standalone system. You can plug it in and start the car straight away with very little agro. Then the amount of mapping you do is down to you. As I said before, many UK tuners are getting away with a 'Tweak', for which they charge close to 4 figures. We map a AFM based PowerFC for £400. For this we fit it and fully map Fuel and Ignition.

Alot of people don't want to go as far as re-wiring the Engine bay and fancy the idea of one day being able to go back to standard if required.

Why make it more complicated than it needs to be? I wouldn't mind betting that we have 400+bhp 200SX's fuelling far better and more accurately than many cars on other Management.

Also, the Closed-loop control is superb, even on big injectors.

Jay,

iTrader: (4)

chris so are these the same as emanage greddy thingys

cheers jay

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

Similar, although the Emanage still goes over the top of the Factory ECU.

We don't rate those.

chris-m

had power fc fitted to my gt4, less than 5 minute for the complete ecu swap, started and idled perfectly first turn of the key. map supplied was ok enough to drive on without full boost, then full remap at Thor on the dynapack system. they make a lot of sense for jap cars due to the wiring specific plug n play- no hassles. complete ECU with full remap to suit optimax was just over £800 all in then, bargain for a fully mappable ecu.
Cant tho see any benefit in one for a cossie if it needs a loom making up and wiring mods, altho if someone did go to the trouble it would then re-map just like any other aftermarket ecu. You can also use a dataloggit software/dongle and a laptop yourself to remap it if you wish.

stevieturbo

That may well be true. But Andy modified his PFC to run using MAP as the main load parameter rather than the airflow meter.
I think it was him and JB built a box to convert TPS, RPM and MAP into a useable scaled voltage into the ecu in place of the MAF signal.

Bit like the HKS VPC does, but better.

They are pretty damn good value though if you simply want an ecu, fitted and mapped by the supplier, and leave it at that.
If you want to use the ECU yourself, I dont think they are good value at all. £5-600 for the ecu, then a further £250 or so for Datalogit, make it quite expensive really when you will also be tied with using an airflow meter. There also isnt really any instructions for the Software, so you have to figure everything out yourself.

I'm using the DTA P8pro, and I think its very good. Would be nice if it could support low impedance injectors though.

_DAN_

Interesting

Cam

Very user friendly esp the software but the downside is that encourages DIY nob twiddlers to have a go at mapping and tweaking.