I'm looking at getting myself an aftermarket loom and ECU (which will have a base map bso still needs mapping properly)

sofar the only name that's popped into my head is Paul Hills. now i know his reputaion of late isn't exactly spotless, but i figure that something as simple as popping as connecing up a few wires should be pretty easy to get right also can sort the mapping out too, its only a <300bhp N/A car afterall, how hard can it be!

but, before i just go with the 1st name that pops into my head, has anyone got any otehr suggestions? i thought about using BSW but i heard they're not as good as they used to be

 

Power Engineering, i had my omex 500 fitted and mapped by Chris Todd. Outstanding service throughout and a nice and tidy install. The tea's not bad either.

Steve

 

fit the loom ya self you plum, its piss easy ffs

just makesure all the sensors are compatible with your car though as i know that omex requires new sensors

 

i'm sorry but i wont ever use PE again, i had a bad experience

 

DIY !!!!!!!

ITS REALLY NOT HARD, JUST LIKE WIRING A COMPUTER AND A PLUG

 

ginge, no DIY for me, especially with wiring.

plus i want all sensors etc. checked afterwards, and i cant do that myself.

 

THEN TELL US THE ECU AND THEN WE WILL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO

seriously though on wiring id rather do it my self personally then i know what i touched and where to chase ect

as for checking sensors, again dont understand what you mean but it aint hard


or just get ryan to do it, hes a top bloke and cheep, just not local


you tred to ask the fletch brothers too, there quite good at wiring things up and jb can get you a discount at hatton garden so you can get the missus a bracelet for valentines day

 

You had a proper shed of a car and you wonder why they mis-diagonsed a fault on it and pretty much werent interested in fixing it properly

Have you seen some of the cars coming out of PE that have had Omex fitted and mapped, there proper cars where the owner hasnt cut any corners and PE have done brilliant job with the car i.e Simon's ST170 turbo

 

Dont matter a fuck how shit the car is!

They should either get it right or not look at all, no fobbing off BS.

A shit car to one person is anothers pride n joy, you should know that, owning an RS Turbo

 

Jim,

What ECU are you going for?

I know Dave Walker at Emerald has mapped at least two 24v cossie lumps in the past year, with some very good results.

His ECU is very well priced and he only charges Ł200 + VAT to map his own ecu!

Based in Watton, near Norwich, so might be a bit of a drive but well worth it.

 

i was thinking that


not the fact they removed his "bodged" gaffer tape off his air filters and replaced it with that SUPER AND EXPESIVE STUFF





INSULATION TAPE

they also said the driver for the extra injectors where shagged and he needed a 5th mapaple injector driver for his car ( im sure ive heard that line before though )

turns out it was a broken wire in the injector plug that stoped it working


but in all fairness i dont think they understanded the car that well and jim only used em as no body else had a 4wd rr local at the time


jim why not try jano, hes not fair and no matter your differences hes no con artist or a smacked arse mechanic



JUST LIKE TO ALSO ADD THAT POWERS SEEMS TO BE MORE INTERESTED IN THE WORK ON PEOPLES CARS THESE DAYS, PROB DUE TO MATT GETTING A JOB THERE, BUT WHAT EVER IT IS THEY SEEM TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY

 

ECU wise its a split between 2...

i know of an MBE ECU + LOOM (with 24v map already loaded) for 700notes, BUT it might not still be available.

if it isnt then i want to get a brand new Emerald ECU... but then i'd need to get a loom made aswell, as they dont do looms. if i went emerald i'd get itmapped by dave walker... but they dont do fitting.

oh, i also fancy getting some cams fitted at the same time.

 

Well if the car was in proper working order and not bodged in every aspect i believe they would have done a much better job than trying to work out whats been bodged and what hasnt.

My pride and joy certainly isnt a RS Turbo (might have been 6 yrs ago), its just a bit of fun in an old turbo car, like your shed of a 200SX

I have yet to buy something thats my pride and joy

 

Jim what about Omex and getting APT to fit and map it for you ?

 

Jim,

Would go with the emerald ecu. I bet Dave would give you a map from one of the other 24vs for a starting map for no cost if you buy an ECU.

The loom is really pretty easy. Only connecting up a few sensors. I would give it a go. I'm sure people on here or Dave Walker will give you hand if you get stuck. There is probably some good destructions / diagrams with the ecu.

 

my loom is shit, i need a new one regardless...

 

i goe for emerald then jim if the mbe stuff aint available

me and cowboi would even do the fitting for ya if ya wished, hes a qualified engineer aswell as sparky,,,,,,,,, but for HV not house stuff ( how fucked up is that

seriously a loom aint hard


OR SERIOUSLY CONSIDER JANO !!!!, HES NOT A MUPPET AND HE LOOKS AFTER PEOPLE BIG TIME


andy a mechanic should be able to spot the problem to diagnose it, what happens if the work was done by another garage, does that mean they have the right to miss diagnose it then

thought the point of a garage is to do the work and fix the problem properly, if they cant then tell em that they dont know how to diagnose the problem due to now real experience about it

but thats not the point though, thats the past and from what ive heard there FUTURE is what we need to look at and thats all that counts

 

PE did my cos and i have no probs with them but i suppose thats what they are mainly used too

stage 1, p+p head with all new bits fitted, gpa gasket new brakes and lots of other stuff.

found them very reasonable and managed to get 308bhp on the rollers

 

stage 1, p+p head with all new bits fitted, gpa gasket new brakes and lots of other stuff.


eh ????

they recomended that you have that spec or was that your choice. surely its lean top end ???

reason i ask is that i had greens, lightly ported head and cams and i was running lean, also the power band was moved up

UNLESS they lowered the boost but then you would find a flat spot and when it comes into play you would be missing that point too


just a question as i cant see powers thinking that a good idea, did they not even mention fitting a 5th injector at the very least ( joke btw )

 

I got told not to bother doing an EFi conversion on my car as MFi was so much better by a certain company

What ever happened to personal choice?

Jim look up this ebay number, I can get you the whole lot for Ł375 if its any good to you, never even been used

8025544519

 

wes, i think there are diff. types of emerald for different configurations so i couldnt use a zetec one on my v6 etc.

all i want to do is hand over ahandful of cash and come away with aftermarket management fitted (NOT retaining my existing shitty engine loom)

 

jim it can be done mate, if ya wanna makesure its all done proper then its a trip down to kenny i belive, he sorted it the last time and he does know everything ( some say more that stu )

just do that mate then, cant go wrong there and he loves working on cars too

 

Jim,

I am going MegaSquirt V3..


Its cheap and you can use all your exiting sensors and the standard EDIS 6

 

ginge, its not a job for the MSD boys really. it's also not really a job (imho) for "my mates ginge and pikey"

johnnyB, i've never really liked megasquirt, its a very basic system and i'm after something a bit more upmarket. don't want somehing OTT tho

 

In that case i'll do it for a grand. Emerald ECU fitted and mapped, but you will have to do the driving!

 

so for 1k you'll do me a NEW ecu, a NEW loom, fit it, and map it?



ps who are you

 

Sorry, mis caculated. Ł1050 - New Emerald Ecu, New Engine Loom, Mapped.

All standard sensors must be compatible with ECU (most ford are compatable with emerald). Any installation of new sensors eg fitting O2 sensor bungs, or machining / welding bosses for other sensors will be charged extra.

 

jim pikey dont to techy work on cars

no offence jim but back in the days you would have attempted a simple job like this, ive done a few efi conversions and tbh there piss easy, hardest part is if the thread on the sensor aint the same or bridging it


cant see why its not a job for msd , thats what kenny is good at and seems he enjoys


where ever ya go unless ya ACTUALLY know they know YOUR engine and YOUR management then its gonna be a gamble

dont forget that cowboi aint pikey, he a engineer aswell as a electrician who helped his dad assemble his kit cars he builds, not to mention hes nova hes just done and the fact that hes a fucking class engineer that makes things for us at his work


jim my serious advice is either do it all yourself or help someone you know to do it then get it all mapped

aslong as the person understands YOUR CAR then its easy as that

good luck in what you decide, dont think cause you are scared to attempt it means that others will just bodge it, i find most garages bodge things my self and thats from a fair bit of experience

 

the ECT sensor needs changing for emerald, thats about it. my e3xisting sensors would all need testing and replacing if faulty.

how do you work out the new lom into that anyway, where do you plan to find a brand spanking new granada engine loom? or do you intend to use a good 2/h one? or make a brand new one from scratch?

 

ECT sensor? Engine coolant temp?

New loom from scratch. Probably re use the injector loom. Only tricky bit is getting the right feed to your tacho.

 

jim with the emerald you get the rover fitment plug and make a new loom from scratch with the parts bought from farnell ect

jim buy all new sensors then you know ya sorted as i remember you had a few issues, speak to me and ill sort em out for ya

btw im not trying to gain any business ect, just dont want you paying a numpty to fuck about with your car when they dont understand it when i know you DO and CAN do it

i can eve order the plugs for the sensors if ya wish too

the loom is stand alone so when to change cars you remove it like christian and i both done with the omex system

 

jim get a whole new loom and get the pectel copy(ish) stuff for it too

 

garage, why would tacho feed me tricky? its just a 6cy wasted spark coilpack system, probably the default setting! lol

anyway the guy with the MBE ecu is gonna call me back later today, if he's got it still i'm deffo having it. it's only 700quid and the loom will already be the right one for it

 

ginge, i WAS going to buy all new sensors (theyre not that expensive) then i figured it might be a good idea to test them 1st to see if they NEED replacing. no point throwing away perfectly good sensors

i'd likea new loom, and i was planing to get ryan to knock me one up for the emerald.

thing is since then i changed my mind, and now i'm sitting here with money burning a hole in my pocket and i've decided that getting the management soirted is what i want to do

 

then jim i think theres about 5 wires to wire up then, christian actually labeled mine and i couldnt even mess that up

seriously mate have a dig, ive just redone most of my cossie loom including the main loom for lights ect as ive had to mod a few things, even shared a few fuses inthe box for tidyness

 

Fair dinkum Jim,

Any mappable ECU will be a great upgrade. Make sure you get a copy of the software and have a go at getting to know it. Even if you don't touch the mapping it will still help you to diagnose any sensor faults you might get.

 

if ya need the parts then give me a shout yeah

 

ginge, i've got all the finis written down on my laptop, when i get back to work i'll msg em to you

 

kk, ill be here

or just list what ya need as im at work now

 

sensors:

ECT
TPS (dont need)
HEGO x2
ACT
CPS
MAF (dont need)

i think thats it...