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Old 08-12-2005, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by cossie4i
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i have a mountune K2 inlet in mine
What is the rest of your spec ? turbo, injecters etc.

Steve.
its a harvey gibbs 400/400 conversion.

200 block,
reworked head, inlet and outlet
K2 inlet
std exhaust cam
verniers
T34 0.63
400 light blues
running 28 psi

much much better engine than my previous stage 3 spec.

any more info you need is prob best to ask Harvey as he would have the specifics.

Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
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i have a mountune K2 inlet in mine
What is the rest of your spec ? turbo, injecters etc.

Steve.
its a harvey gibbs 400/400 conversion.

200 block,
reworked head, inlet and outlet
K2 inlet
std exhaust cam
verniers
T34 0.63
400 light blues
running 28 psi

much much better engine than my previous stage 3 spec.

any more info you need is prob best to ask Harvey as he would have the specifics.

Hope this helps
Cheers RAN

Hope to meet you at the Power Engineering RR Day if we get in

Steve.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Rush,
Okay, in my experience, stick with the standard cams up to 370bhp .

Steve,
If it was my car, I would stick with the standard cams . No point in changing UNLESS you go for one that is going to work with your spec (and as you won't go internal at this stage - stick with standard).
Thanks Mike, will stick with the standard cams then

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aye - PE RR should be good. Havent been for a few years.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
540bhp on a T4 is not really achievable, as the T4 is a 48lb per minute turbo, which is basically 520bhp of air flat out at 2.2 bar.

I would suspect that you are confused, as it has a wild inlet and mild exhaust cam? This is to help keep the gasses inside the engine for improved response, as the T4 is a lag monster.
Thanks for the reply Mike - thought I would reply here as others may benefit!

The head has if my measurements are correct a BD16 inlet cam and a BD8(standard) exhaust cam. The owner of the head says they have a dyno graph somewhere showing the peak power over 540Bhp using this head.
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So Mike or anyone else that would know, how much power could the head I am looking to buy flow with a BD16 inlet and BD8 (standard) exhaust cams ?
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Originally Posted by my_cossie
So Mike or anyone else that would know, how much power could the head I am looking to buy flow with a BD16 inlet and BD8 (standard) exhaust cams ?
The head is not the limiting factor, it is the turbo in this instance. However, if you changed to a higher flow item, you would probably want to change the exhaust cam.

I would imagine that the dyno sheet will be quite old, as 540bhp "used" to be achievable on the old 98RON fuel when benzine was used as an additive. Now that we have shonky crap that they try to pass off as fuel , you can't run as much ignition anymore and the limit is around 520bhp with the T4. If it is one of Nick Waples heads, then with the correct turbo, cams and c/r, almost 600bhp should be achievable. However, without knowing how good the head is (you would need it bench-flowed), I can only give this as my best guess.

My own engine made 515.4bhp with the same cams as you and did a proven 180+mph (repeatedly).
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by my_cossie
So Mike or anyone else that would know, how much power could the head I am looking to buy flow with a BD16 inlet and BD8 (standard) exhaust cams ?
The head is not the limiting factor, it is the turbo in this instance. However, if you changed to a higher flow item, you would probably want to change the exhaust cam.

I would imagine that the dyno sheet will be quite old, as 540bhp "used" to be achievable on the old 98RON fuel when benzine was used as an additive. Now that we have shonky crap that they try to pass off as fuel , you can't run as much ignition anymore and the limit is around 520bhp with the T4. If it is one of Nick Waples heads, then with the correct turbo, cams and c/r, almost 600bhp should be achievable. However, without knowing how good the head is (you would need it bench-flowed), I can only give this as my best guess.

My own engine made 515.4bhp with the same cams as you and did a proven 180+mph (repeatedly).
Thanks for the info!!

Have to say I was surprised to see an off the shelf Inlet cam in there and a standard exhaust cam. I thought I would find some one off 'magic' tuner cams in it - which is what I think the owner of the head thinks they paid for!
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MIKE !!!!!

can you please reply to mine for optimum cam timing for either pair of bd10's, bd10 inlet and standard and standard please

wanna get me cossie finished intime for the next eclipse
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Rush,
I'm strangely attracted to those wheels .
But not the manifold and turbo..
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Ginge,
Have PM'd you .

My Cossie,
Lots of people are surprised about running such a mild exhaust cam, but that's because they don't understand how to get the best response / power compromise from a T4. Obviously it works, as my 180+mph times prove... .
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Interesting.......

So does that mean Piper were not too far from the truth when they told me the most popular config of there's was a BD14 inlet and a BD10 exhaust???

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