GARETH T

summed it up for me aswell

Jon(m600)

Well done Daz Your car sounds like fun

Keith B

You're all jsut jealous of my Mums Fiesta Zetec power output - thats my theory.

_

That's too long winded, you only need two words to sum Rod up:

arrogant c-u-n-t

Alg1k

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Thankyou all
The Gauntlet is still thrown down
I dont really care about the outcome
I treat it as a bit of fun
If only others did
Mike i spoke to Mr gurney and he said my 540 ATW figure was accurate
Im happy with the power its got
Im not going to be pulling my engine apart im just
Going to run it at full boost now on optimax
None of this Ł45 a gallon stuff
Whats the point there is allready a 1000 hp yb out there so its been done

Billabong

Cool & that's best attitude to have

Hope you get your next run F.O.C.

Alg1k

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NEXT RUN IS FOC

Alg1k

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OH AND ANOTHER THING
If any of you see me at a track day and my passenger seat is empty feel free to hitch a lift i dont bite

TIFF

I am still waiting for a ride in it on the fooking road Daz

Martin-Hadland

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like i said before Rod the gauntlet has been thrown down by sir daz... up for it? why dont we make it a little more interesting... and lets leave the nos and race fuel at home. my car will be ready real soon and i would be prepared to do this too... empty the tanks and we all run the same pump fuel. any takers?

MikeR

Oh now it's getting real interesting, weres Karl to join in the fun



Mike

TiB

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To be fair though his sprint times are defo not shy for rwd either


Lee

sbd16v

i know who i will be coming to see at the next action day your at

aduz

id pay to watch that

Martin-Hadland

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ok, you can buy the fuel... thanks

aduz

how long will a tenners last yer?

RANJ

ill be there minus a gearbox

Fiecos Dan

sounds good.

let me come

Jon(m600)

Would love to see these cars do well at totb, Stop the jap cars having it all there own way

Kevin Sharp

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LOL@all the bitching

well done to daz and Karl....the car obv has serious power

Ranj..whens your car going to be ready?.......it must have been undergiong its conversion for almost half of its life now

stop arguing you bitches

if someones paying for the fuel i will come and join in aswell...if not i,d rather stay at home

Martin-Hadland

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same old kev

RANJ

im waiting on martin for the geabox

Benn 304R

I will pay for the fuel for the person that lets me take their car for a spin

Martin-Hadland

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it's going to be known quantity soon... engine and box gets fitted on sat

RANJ

Billabong

Would make an excellent, sell-out mag feature...... RENTON!!!!!!

marco polo

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Daz

your car is a credit to you it's a one off so well done mate

no matter what bhp you have got in it , it's still a very very quick car

and with your car you use it everyday as a rd car aswell as a track car how many people with big bhp cars do that you will find not many do

not matter what bhp you have got we all know it's a gen 640+ bhp rwd car without the nos

good luck with it anyway






Sean

I agree with you also

marco

Anonymous

3 way shootout sounds like fantastic fun

although im not sure if its fair to force someone to run a particular fuel, after all if your CR etc is specced with the intention of running higher octane fuel and then the bar is lowered it just means that you are in a situation where you are in a competition that your engine wasnt built for.

Likewise if you know what you are doing there are certain things that you do differently to run an engine well on nitrous, that you wouldnt do the same if you were intending to run off nitrous, so again you are just being forced into using your engine in a way it wasnt intended.


If you really want to know what the engine itself is capable of shouldnt you all run "all motor" and not run the turbos?
To me thats equally as daft (having to run a low CR motor N/A) as building an engine with a particular fuel in mind then not being able to run it, likewise being banned from using nitrous when that was what the engine was built for.

To me Martin saying rod cant run nitrous is like Rod saying martin has to run hydraulic lifters, or only 4 injectors or run standard block height.

you have all built engines to work at their optimum in different conditions, so trying to force others to work in the conditions which are optimum for one engine doesnt really prove anything IMHO

I reckon you should all run it how you want to, and just see what happens, thats the most relevant way to do it IMHO

Martin-Hadland

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sorry mate don't agree with the above. running pump fuel would be a good leveller, i can't see rods engine being really high comp so what's the problem? .... mine is higher comp than i normally go anyway. Anyhow it was only an idea!

Beach

Id second that TBH

The way i see it is that all these cars are impressive at what they do and i believe what Karl tells me as i trust his engineering knowledge !!

I also believe that Rods car is very fast in a straight line which also deserves big respect. Its just the fact that we are all hammered with it when ever rod feels like it

Like Daz and Martin have said on here '' lets all have a shootout''

Martins car will be seriously quick and one to be watching very soon

Where's Rods reply ??

All this bitching makes me laugh, we should be falling out with the vw boys or the scooby lot not eachother.

I think we have had a lot of good things going on in the cosworth world and we should stop the bitching.

Either that or organise a bare nuckle boxing session and do some dodgy betting n that

Alg1k

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Hey Martin that sounds GOOD

dumped

Haha so many claims and accusations in one simple thread... and people wonder why i dont like putting up power figures! LOL

How can you come out and slate a tuner when their customers car has been run on someone eleses rolling road with out them even being there. Only the rolling road should shoulder any blame as Daz paid for a proper run and that was the product he recieved - good or bad. Just because some have more experience than others on certain rollers, there are better ways to put things. As it was the product that Daz recieved its quite up to karl to put the graph up and leave it to interpretation.

Martin

Ps I personally dont like dyno dynamics rollers in the slightest or their overseas figures but still lol

Anonymous

Well its up to Rod and Daz of course, its certianly a daily use road car, so i guess its been specced with pump fuel in mind to a certain extent.
And i agree its a good leveller to all run the same fuel.

I cant see the point in them running at all though if its off gas, their cars are specced around using gas, so not running it is just not going to show its potential at all, as im sure that if him and mark were building an engine with the intention of running it without nitrous they would have specced it slightly differently in the first place, likewise if daz wanted to make all his power off gas im sure Karl would have used a bigger turbo and an even lower cr (or more revs), as an example i know for a fact that my own engines im speccing for someone currently i would have a much lower CR for a start if i was relying just on boost rather than on the gas too, and also i would have larger ports on the inlet side relative to the exhaust than i do currently, so taking a nitrous engine and removing the nitrous doesnt give a good impression of what they would have done if that was their aim to build an off gas motor. If that makes sense?

GARETH T

Kevin Sharp

ill pay for fuel bill

Danny B

Roll Up Roll Up Pump Fuel shoot out!!!
Some of the fastest typers of passion ford, sorry i meant fastest cosworths of passion ford will go head to head to pick out the old men from the boys.

Hooligan

PMSL@ all the bickering over numbers!

Is this PF or some fucking gaybar you bunch of fairies!

Matt; I couldn't agree with you more! I really don't know if it's allright to laugh at Rod 'cause maybe it's plain old sad to be so up yourself and that at an age you should know better...

Someone PLEASE shut that man up!!!

p.s. yes ofcourse I'm green with envy!!! My life evolves arounds cars, brunters and HP-figures....NOT.

TIFF

Kevin Sharp

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ok count me in...new engines being mapped on a special blend of 95 ron (council fuel) and a 20%mix of gas oil as an upper cylinder lubricant with a splash of castrol rs to make sure it dont det

Matt

steph, the guy clearly cant see what a tosser he looks, and even when many people tell him he cant see shit and everyone else is wrong....aswell as jealous little pricks fuckin sports blinkers old blinky has

funny as fuck thread

Gaz C

SO what kind of top speed will this Dolomite do ?