FasterFords

I'm bored of my ST170, nice car but too dull.

My ideal next car would be a Late low milage Escort Cossie. but I don't think I'm going to find one for less than 8k, which is all I'll have.

I've always liked the 4 headlight shaped Celica GT4 (st205) , I can get a low mileage 1996/97 model for 8k

It will be my main car, so I need something reliable and really want ABS and aircon.

Anyone had any experience of them or can suggest something else quick and modern ?

Thanks guys

The Sludge

depends on i guess what ya budget is, whether you hav efamily what improvements youd like to do

for me away from fords i wud guess be

lexus200 turbs
civic type r

FasterFords

8k really, maybe 10k tops

Civic is too much hard work and ugly.

Won't be doing too many mods, just exhaust and a little tweak on the boost to 300bhp

twitchyrear

my mate had a celica,cant remember which one but all four wheels turned if that sheds any light ,he loved the car

Disabled Account

Lots of very usefull info in these likks:

http://www.gtfours.co.uk/
http://www.gt4oc.net/
http://www.celica-club.co.uk/
http://www.celica-gt4.co.uk/
http://www.celicatech.com/
http://www.rallygt4.com/
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/

Disabled Account

Lots more info below.........I did actually look in to getting one.....

Aftermarket Parts
http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/
http://www.fensport.co.uk/products.htm
http://www.toyheadauto.com/Performan..._Bushings.html

Technical info
http://opc.mr2oc.com/
http://www.carmanuals.btinternet.co.uk/

Celica GT4 specialist breaker (based in cornwall but ship parts to you)
http://www.tcbperformanceparts.co.uk/welcome.htm
http://www.tcbparts.co.uk/

ST165 & ST185 common faults:
Failed electric aerial (new one is over Ł200)
Radiator cap failure
Intermittent starter motor (tcb Ł40.00)
Rusted sunroof
Rear defogger element failure (new rear glass is over Ł400)
engine oil leaks
gearbox oil leaks
Aircon compressor failure (look for flashing aircon light)
Clutch wear
Turbo inlet & outlet pipe splits
TVIS butterfly valve rattle (at over 4300rpm)
Check engine light code 54 (intercooler water level low) - not a big deal

FasterFords

Thanks for the links, that'll keep me busy 2nite

Turbo Zetec

iTrader: (1)

one of my friends has a 1994 st205 WRC import

fookin' excellent

hardly has any trouble with it really!

lancia delta 6 times WRC

Bullet proof a mate had one for 4 years, in that time it was thrashed non stop without failure.
Std turbo only good for 1.2bar max or it snaps.

Oh with just decat, exhaust, filter and uprated fuel pump it set a 13.9 sec 1/4 the boost controller was set to 1.2bar. Not bad for a car weighing 1400+kg.

big_wig_074

i know its 8995,BUT look at it!
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=182842

Turbo Zetec

iTrader: (1)

we managed a 13.17 with pretty much the same spec except the fuel pump. clutch needs fixing now though!

FasterFords

From what I've read the main thing letting the GT4 down is the weight, but I guess that Toyota over engineering everything, after all a Saxo is nice and light, but its made out of fags packets and falls apart

Thanks for the positive feedback.

If I can get one for 8k I will have enough to get the Capri back on the road too

lancia delta 6 times WRC

You should be able to pay less than that, my mate said some in the trader (he knows them from gt4oc) got no phone calls at all, do some hard core bargaining as most go for evo's scoobs these days.

lancia delta 6 times WRC

std wheels? my mate had 8 x 18's

Azrael

Exactly. Standard car is more of a GT cruiser then sports car unfortunately. Still some say it's best handling of homologation specials (as standard). ST205 has 3 LSDs and pretty advanced engine, braking systems. Weak link as in any transverse engined 4WD is the gearbox.

Turbo Zetec

iTrader: (1)

this is on 18's too... cant remember all the details, but 60ft comes in around 1.7 and it crosses the line at around 100mph every time.

FasterFords

Well I'm getting old now, so I like a bit of comfort, but still want some speed and thrills.

The gearbox should be OK with 300bhp though, and I won't be going over that.

Azrael

It schouldbe just fine a car for you. You schould check parts avalibility and competentent serviceman in your area though. They are Toyotas but still homologation specials, not true road cars so they might be braking down now and then.

marco polo

iTrader: (1)

they are a bit on the heavy side but great cars , the running gear can take abause upto 350/380 bhp after that they will fail

as my mate has one and his is a genuine 380 and has blown the gearbox up twice now

cheers marco

chris-m

hi marco
must be something else wrong as gt4 boxes are well know for being strong and reliable, no one has any probs other than worn synchros at high mileage. Fensport cars were still running completely std boxes and diffs at 600bhp, he's only just now found the limit of the box.

st205 is the one to go for, std cars gave 250bhp and 5.7s to 60mph. 1/4m in about 13.9-14.2s. you can get 300bhp with a decat downpipe, filter and exhaust at 1.1 bar boost. mine runs mid4s 0-60mph and 100mph in 11.7s. excellent cars.

Alan s1

My m8s one was for sale have'nt heared from him for a bit dont know if its sold or not
Just under 300bhp i belive

chris-m

nearly as nice as mine
nice mota!

Alan s1

he goes on one of the web sites above GT4OC or some thing also so does my other m8 but he's got a older one in red (Pink)

FasterFords

Looks nice, best colour too

Will need to sell my ST first which aint going to be easy with Xmas round the corner.