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Old 18-11-2005, 09:10 AM
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I guess porkie is the best one to answer are they good as an ever day usable car..?? Are the engines quite good or do you have to stick with buying one under a certain millage..?? Not looking at anything with a turbo as it would be the "fainces" everyday car Looking at 2 of these
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/57208.htm
Old 18-11-2005, 09:16 AM
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genrally,,, as long as they are serviced,, there good whatever the millage
Old 18-11-2005, 09:17 AM
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Stunning looking car that

I know a couple of people who have run them as everyday cars doing absolute starship milages (including a mate who used one to commute from near london out to cardiff and back daily for about 6 months!) and not had any problems at all.
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cool cheers wasnt sure if they had the "ferrari" problems
Old 18-11-2005, 09:19 AM
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millage does effect the price of porkas alot,,

a 70k miless porka will drive like new
Old 18-11-2005, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonp
cool cheers wasnt sure if they had the "ferrari" problems
Ferrari engines are a lot better than people give them credit for IF serviced properly, its just that due to the expense of servicing them people tend to neglect them, things like not changing the belts reguarly enough cause they only do 2K miles a year so expect to still get 30K miles from a belt even though its 15 years old, that sort of thing.
Old 18-11-2005, 09:26 AM
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porkers are everyday supercars....

i know a few people that run them as every day cars with no problems at all
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ya like chip says,, modern ferraris (from 355 onwards really) engines dont brake


the gearboxes are a different matter
Old 18-11-2005, 09:27 AM
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It's a Porsche NOT a Fiat , at 54k, its not even run in yet .

I had to do a double take, as I nearly picked up the phone there and then before I realised that it was a GT3 "replica" for £30k .
Old 18-11-2005, 09:44 AM
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Unfortunately NOT as bombproof as you would think.... problems with rear main oil seals is the common failure on early 996. Its NOT a mileage thing either and have heard rumours that you want one thats been driven properly, ie HARD as they seem to be ok and its the pampered ones that have problems. Blocks also have problems...

BUT still an awesome awesome car. 996's are amazing value now, the values have been CRUSHED with new 997 out They are special cars in that thrill you on every drive and yet are totally usable everyday.

GREAT cars, all time That was has a nice spec as well but is overpriced. My mate is selling his C4 convertable for less money!!!! I know this car very well and it is a wicked buy for the money. I'd get this if I were you.

Not great pics, and I know the converts aren't as good looking as the coupes BUT getting the roof down is soooooooooooooooooooooo nice. I will never ever have a garage without a convert of some sort in it! This is a better car to own!







Its got a lovely spec, let me know if you wanna test drive and I'll bring it over to you.

Not really liking my Skyline to be honest thinking I should have bought a 996 Turbo instead
Old 18-11-2005, 09:52 AM
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porkie sell it buy the 996 turbo
Old 18-11-2005, 09:53 AM
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yeah do it! 911 turbos rule!
Old 18-11-2005, 09:55 AM
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cheers guys.Lee shes got a CLK convertable at moment and i told her to buy a new one,then i can have a turbo or real GT3 one day,but she likes the 996 she doesnt like the look of the C4.

Whats up with your skyline as ive got my heart set on a R34 maybe not the car i think it is.
Old 18-11-2005, 09:58 AM
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Dunno, love the looks, even if it is the kingchav car Just not sure about the drive. Where as I just love Porsches full stop, the drive, the looks the sounds, the way you know they will always start and you can always give them death!

I'll have to give The Skybus more of a chance I suppose. Only driven it twice and for less than 20 miles in total!
Old 18-11-2005, 10:03 AM
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i like both skyline and porsche but if offered both would have to take the porka
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996 Turbos Rock! Especially with the power upgrade .

Even Harvey's 993 Turbo would hit the limiter in top no bother (189mph), but I didn't really like the hinged pedals in it that much - I suppose you get used to them ?
Old 18-11-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
996 Turbos Rock! Especially with the power upgrade .

Even Harvey's 993 Turbo would hit the limiter in top no bother (189mph), but I didn't really like the hinged pedals in it that much - I suppose you get used to them ?
do u mean the x50 ugrade
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agree with Mike R, the 996's kick supercar ass! such a fabulous car and even a complete amatuer, i.e. me, can drive one at silly speeds and still come out alive
Old 18-11-2005, 10:19 AM
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Jas buy another 500, you know how much your missis loves them
Old 18-11-2005, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
996 Turbos Rock! Especially with the power upgrade .

Even Harvey's 993 Turbo would hit the limiter in top no bother (189mph), but I didn't really like the hinged pedals in it that much - I suppose you get used to them ?
993 are old cars now and worse they feel even older! pedals, driving position and cabin ergonomics are comical. VERY well built car though.

996 is totally different. much more modern. Driving position, pedals and ergonomics are perfect in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Porkie

993 are old cars now and worse they feel even older! pedals, driving position and cabin ergonomics are comical. VERY well built car though.
The irony of that from someone who ENJOYS driving an old ford sierra
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Porka over a skyline anyday
Old 18-11-2005, 11:09 AM
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Lee,
There's a GT3RS (red) with only 2,600 miles for £68k on the Autotrader website or if you want one with the PCCB brakes, add £5k .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Lee,
There's a GT3RS (red) with only 2,600 miles for £68k on the Autotrader website or if you want one with the PCCB brakes, add £5k .
arent there some issues with early PCCB brakes ie they crack not that u will reply
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AFAIR the issues were resolved by the time the GT3 was launched .
Old 18-11-2005, 11:26 AM
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While we're on the topic, anyone seen the new Ruf RT12?

How come Ruf can get a 997 turbo on the market months before Porsche

Old 18-11-2005, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gurnE
How come Ruf can get a 997 turbo on the market months before Porsche

Porsche do it as a marketing strategy. Its not because they can't do it at all.

That Ruf is faster than a Carrera GT
Old 18-11-2005, 12:10 PM
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Can't beat the 930's but then I am biased.

Saying that having driven a 997 aswell I really enjoyed it over a 993 and 996 (non-turbo).

Conclusion, old ones ('89 models g50 box and hydro clutch etc) with are best for someone who really wants to feel everything and really work it themself without power steering and trick gadgets....master this and you can have bags of fun. On the other hand get it wrong and they don't forgive in a hurry with all of that weight in the back.
997 is best for comfort and bring back the gorgious old school wide curves and looks (that the 996's lack with their boxy design).

Just gimme a Carrera GT and I'd be happy with everything!
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Not driven a 997 yet, supposed to be almost perfect
Old 18-11-2005, 01:38 PM
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guys your straying of track by £30-40k i cant let her read this i wont end with fook all
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The Ruf is only £165k
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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I know of a lovely 996 Turbo for 44k... or a real GT3 for £39

Personally though, I'd talk her into my mates 996 C4 cab, get it lowered on some BBS 19's and you will both love it
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Lee,
Pictures would nice .
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Originally Posted by Porkie
I know of a lovely 996 Turbo for 44k... or a real GT3 for £39

Personally though, I'd talk her into my mates 996 C4 cab, get it lowered on some BBS 19's and you will both love it
Lee - SOLD

Best £39 i ever spent

When can you deliver it?

I will give you two twenties and you can keep the change mate
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There's an ad in the Yorkshire Post today for a 944 described as "near concours" at £4995. Shame there's no bloody pics in that paper. Bet it's a nice car tho obviously not on the level of the cars mentioned above.
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Engine wise agree with Porkie. Boxsters and 996's and even 997's can all suffer from RMS failure. The seal costs pennies, but the labour involved to change it is £000's. Even if it's replaced it will probably go again, it's a seal housing problem apparently(i.e. block).
Engines have been known to kill themselves too, due to cylinder liners slipping or intermediate shaft failure, causing the timing chain to snap, not good.
Other than that I know of no problems, and I use a Boxster forum a lot.
Wouldn't let the above put you off though, very isolated cases, although RMS failure is more common.

Edit: If you find one you want, any Porsche dealer will do a thorough inspection of the car for £150 ish, well worth it IMO. You'll have to get the car to them, but DO NOT use AA or RAC for this.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
AFAIR the issues were resolved by the time the GT3 was launched .
i thought early (mk1) gt3's had problems?

i know later gt3's andgt3 rs's are perrrrrrfect


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